Old Crow

On 11 Apr 2004 09:11:32 -0700, mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:

>> I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in
>> the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too.
>> Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics!
>
>
>All right, geocaching!!! I just mounted a new handheld Garmin GPS in
>my TJ on Wednesday and am getting ready to try geocaching. Having fun
>with it? To keep the thread on topic, my wife and I both got cheap
>Uniden hand-held CBs and they seem to have a few miles' range without
>an external antenna on the Jeep tub...they were like $18 each at
>Wal-Mart a few years back. Perfect for Jeep club rides, then instantly
>stowable out of sight when you're back in town. Also, they use the
>lighter socket for power and require zero wiring.
>
>Matt

Having a great time! We moved out to Arkansas from SoCal about 11
years ago, and it the 6 months we've been geocaching, we've found a
bunch of beautiful spots we wouldn't have seen otherwise. Found this
one yesterday:

http://tinyurl.com/23bru

I used another cacher's log page as he had a camera and took a pic.
We got out there and discovered that my camera had dead batteries in
it.
My son has a Garmin GPS, the one with the FRS radio built in. It
works real good, but the radio really eats the batteries in a hurry.
I've got an old Magellan that came off of Ebay, and it works real
good, too, but doesn't have the mapping feature which I think would be
a help sometimes.
A real good map book of the area that you plan on geocaching in is a
good thing to have, also.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow

On 11 Apr 2004 09:11:32 -0700, mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:

>> I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in
>> the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too.
>> Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics!
>
>
>All right, geocaching!!! I just mounted a new handheld Garmin GPS in
>my TJ on Wednesday and am getting ready to try geocaching. Having fun
>with it? To keep the thread on topic, my wife and I both got cheap
>Uniden hand-held CBs and they seem to have a few miles' range without
>an external antenna on the Jeep tub...they were like $18 each at
>Wal-Mart a few years back. Perfect for Jeep club rides, then instantly
>stowable out of sight when you're back in town. Also, they use the
>lighter socket for power and require zero wiring.
>
>Matt

Having a great time! We moved out to Arkansas from SoCal about 11
years ago, and it the 6 months we've been geocaching, we've found a
bunch of beautiful spots we wouldn't have seen otherwise. Found this
one yesterday:

http://tinyurl.com/23bru

I used another cacher's log page as he had a camera and took a pic.
We got out there and discovered that my camera had dead batteries in
it.
My son has a Garmin GPS, the one with the FRS radio built in. It
works real good, but the radio really eats the batteries in a hurry.
I've got an old Magellan that came off of Ebay, and it works real
good, too, but doesn't have the mapping feature which I think would be
a help sometimes.
A real good map book of the area that you plan on geocaching in is a
good thing to have, also.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Old Crow

On 11 Apr 2004 09:11:32 -0700, mhammer8@yahoo.com (Matt) wrote:

>> I've got a pair of handheld FRS radios in the console for use out in
>> the woods went we're looking for Geocache's, and a cell phone too.
>> Wonder what they ever did before the age of electronics!
>
>
>All right, geocaching!!! I just mounted a new handheld Garmin GPS in
>my TJ on Wednesday and am getting ready to try geocaching. Having fun
>with it? To keep the thread on topic, my wife and I both got cheap
>Uniden hand-held CBs and they seem to have a few miles' range without
>an external antenna on the Jeep tub...they were like $18 each at
>Wal-Mart a few years back. Perfect for Jeep club rides, then instantly
>stowable out of sight when you're back in town. Also, they use the
>lighter socket for power and require zero wiring.
>
>Matt

Having a great time! We moved out to Arkansas from SoCal about 11
years ago, and it the 6 months we've been geocaching, we've found a
bunch of beautiful spots we wouldn't have seen otherwise. Found this
one yesterday:

http://tinyurl.com/23bru

I used another cacher's log page as he had a camera and took a pic.
We got out there and discovered that my camera had dead batteries in
it.
My son has a Garmin GPS, the one with the FRS radio built in. It
works real good, but the radio really eats the batteries in a hurry.
I've got an old Magellan that came off of Ebay, and it works real
good, too, but doesn't have the mapping feature which I think would be
a help sometimes.
A real good map book of the area that you plan on geocaching in is a
good thing to have, also.
--
Old Crow
'82 Shovelhead FLT 92" 'Pearl'
'95 Jeep YJ Rio Grande
ASE Certified Master Auto Tech + L1
TOMKAT, BS#133, SENS, MAMBM, DOF#51

Kris

Your range point is very important. Remember that FRS is low-powered UHF.
It has pretty much the range of a baby-call (and many other things in
common with baby-calls too...) UHF is strictly line-of-sight for
dependability. CB is fairly low power, but is REAL shortwave. It will
travel and reflect like real shortwave, too. Although it requires long
antennas and good grounding to work properly, you can't really compare it
to FRS in any aspect.

Now, here's my preferred radio:
http://www.yaesu.co.uk/amateur/hf/ft857/ft857.htm

73, de LA1PCA
-Kris

http://eternalbank.com/jeeps.htm






"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:107j6jc1eltid90@corp.supernews.com:

> I suggest the CB. In my humble opinion, the FRS is a great temporary
> solution, but a very poor permanant solution. The FRS is useful if you
> are driving your Jeep, and you wife is driving the motorhome or
> camper, and you want to have communications between you on the trip
> down the highway. FRS is a workable solution if you want to go
> wheeling with a buddy that is radio challenged, and you don't wheel
> with him on any sort of regular basis. But, as a primary means of
> communication while wheeling, the FRS just is not very serviceable.
> The problem is, 1, it must remain on all of the time, and by the end
> of the day the batteries are pretty much toast and need to be replaced
> or recharged, 2. the range is severely limited by terrain that you
> will encounter on the trail but not on the road (trails are frequently
> closed-in spaces while the highway is mostly open space for the
> operable range of the FRS radio)
>
>
>
>

Kris

Your range point is very important. Remember that FRS is low-powered UHF.
It has pretty much the range of a baby-call (and many other things in
common with baby-calls too...) UHF is strictly line-of-sight for
dependability. CB is fairly low power, but is REAL shortwave. It will
travel and reflect like real shortwave, too. Although it requires long
antennas and good grounding to work properly, you can't really compare it
to FRS in any aspect.

Now, here's my preferred radio:
http://www.yaesu.co.uk/amateur/hf/ft857/ft857.htm

73, de LA1PCA
-Kris

http://eternalbank.com/jeeps.htm






"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:107j6jc1eltid90@corp.supernews.com:

> I suggest the CB. In my humble opinion, the FRS is a great temporary
> solution, but a very poor permanant solution. The FRS is useful if you
> are driving your Jeep, and you wife is driving the motorhome or
> camper, and you want to have communications between you on the trip
> down the highway. FRS is a workable solution if you want to go
> wheeling with a buddy that is radio challenged, and you don't wheel
> with him on any sort of regular basis. But, as a primary means of
> communication while wheeling, the FRS just is not very serviceable.
> The problem is, 1, it must remain on all of the time, and by the end
> of the day the batteries are pretty much toast and need to be replaced
> or recharged, 2. the range is severely limited by terrain that you
> will encounter on the trail but not on the road (trails are frequently
> closed-in spaces while the highway is mostly open space for the
> operable range of the FRS radio)
>
>
>
>

Kris

Your range point is very important. Remember that FRS is low-powered UHF.
It has pretty much the range of a baby-call (and many other things in
common with baby-calls too...) UHF is strictly line-of-sight for
dependability. CB is fairly low power, but is REAL shortwave. It will
travel and reflect like real shortwave, too. Although it requires long
antennas and good grounding to work properly, you can't really compare it
to FRS in any aspect.

Now, here's my preferred radio:
http://www.yaesu.co.uk/amateur/hf/ft857/ft857.htm

73, de LA1PCA
-Kris

http://eternalbank.com/jeeps.htm






"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:107j6jc1eltid90@corp.supernews.com:

> I suggest the CB. In my humble opinion, the FRS is a great temporary
> solution, but a very poor permanant solution. The FRS is useful if you
> are driving your Jeep, and you wife is driving the motorhome or
> camper, and you want to have communications between you on the trip
> down the highway. FRS is a workable solution if you want to go
> wheeling with a buddy that is radio challenged, and you don't wheel
> with him on any sort of regular basis. But, as a primary means of
> communication while wheeling, the FRS just is not very serviceable.
> The problem is, 1, it must remain on all of the time, and by the end
> of the day the batteries are pretty much toast and need to be replaced
> or recharged, 2. the range is severely limited by terrain that you
> will encounter on the trail but not on the road (trails are frequently
> closed-in spaces while the highway is mostly open space for the
> operable range of the FRS radio)
>
>
>
>

Kris

Your range point is very important. Remember that FRS is low-powered UHF.
It has pretty much the range of a baby-call (and many other things in
common with baby-calls too...) UHF is strictly line-of-sight for
dependability. CB is fairly low power, but is REAL shortwave. It will
travel and reflect like real shortwave, too. Although it requires long
antennas and good grounding to work properly, you can't really compare it
to FRS in any aspect.

Now, here's my preferred radio:
http://www.yaesu.co.uk/amateur/hf/ft857/ft857.htm

73, de LA1PCA
-Kris

http://eternalbank.com/jeeps.htm






"CRWLR" <CRWLRJEFF@YAHOO.COM> wrote in
news:107j6jc1eltid90@corp.supernews.com:

> I suggest the CB. In my humble opinion, the FRS is a great temporary
> solution, but a very poor permanant solution. The FRS is useful if you
> are driving your Jeep, and you wife is driving the motorhome or
> camper, and you want to have communications between you on the trip
> down the highway. FRS is a workable solution if you want to go
> wheeling with a buddy that is radio challenged, and you don't wheel
> with him on any sort of regular basis. But, as a primary means of
> communication while wheeling, the FRS just is not very serviceable.
> The problem is, 1, it must remain on all of the time, and by the end
> of the day the batteries are pretty much toast and need to be replaced
> or recharged, 2. the range is severely limited by terrain that you
> will encounter on the trail but not on the road (trails are frequently
> closed-in spaces while the highway is mostly open space for the
> operable range of the FRS radio)
>
>
>
>

Mike Romain

Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
shorter.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

TW wrote:
>
> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> will be spent installing it.
>
> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> install?
>
> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.

Mike Romain

Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
shorter.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

TW wrote:
>
> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> will be spent installing it.
>
> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> install?
>
> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.

Mike Romain

Unless you 'really' know what you are doing, you cannot make the coax
shorter.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

TW wrote:
>
> I went out and bought an AM CB radio (Uniden Pro 510XL). Now the weekend
> will be spent installing it.
>
> I was thinking how would it look if I could somehow install the CB antenna
> on the exact opposite side of the radio antenna (same height and spot). My
> radio antenna is on the right side of the TJ, CB antenna on the left side
> would ensure coax is shortest and the antenna would be somewhat in the
> middle of the truck (though to one side). Any ideas or photos of such an
> install?
>
> Thanks for all the help guys. Its much appreciated.