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twaldron 09-09-2007 09:53 PM

Re: CB power
 
XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>
>>XS11E wrote:
>>
>>
>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>
>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the
>>>>same function as running more lead to the block where the battery
>>>>grounds.
>>>
>>>
>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a local
>>>CB shop it there's one available.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground loop?

>
>
> Between the CB and the antenna.
>


Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run both
leads directly to the battery.

tw

twaldron 09-09-2007 09:53 PM

Re: CB power
 
XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>
>>XS11E wrote:
>>
>>
>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>
>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the
>>>>same function as running more lead to the block where the battery
>>>>grounds.
>>>
>>>
>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a local
>>>CB shop it there's one available.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground loop?

>
>
> Between the CB and the antenna.
>


Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run both
leads directly to the battery.

tw

twaldron 09-09-2007 09:53 PM

Re: CB power
 
XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>
>
>>XS11E wrote:
>>
>>
>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>
>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs the
>>>>same function as running more lead to the block where the battery
>>>>grounds.
>>>
>>>
>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a local
>>>CB shop it there's one available.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground loop?

>
>
> Between the CB and the antenna.
>


Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run both
leads directly to the battery.

tw

XS11E 09-10-2007 01:59 AM

Re: CB power
 
twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>XS11E wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs
>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the
>>>>>battery grounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a
>>>>local CB shop it there's one available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground
>>>loop?

>>
>>
>> Between the CB and the antenna.
>>

>
> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run
> both leads directly to the battery.


Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread.

BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect,
proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate
the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and
both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates
ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground
through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical
installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps
(at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise,
don't know why?

I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB
with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB
is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so
far....


--
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XS11E 09-10-2007 01:59 AM

Re: CB power
 
twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>XS11E wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs
>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the
>>>>>battery grounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a
>>>>local CB shop it there's one available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground
>>>loop?

>>
>>
>> Between the CB and the antenna.
>>

>
> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run
> both leads directly to the battery.


Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread.

BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect,
proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate
the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and
both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates
ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground
through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical
installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps
(at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise,
don't know why?

I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB
with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB
is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so
far....


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 09-10-2007 01:59 AM

Re: CB power
 
twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>XS11E wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs
>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the
>>>>>battery grounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a
>>>>local CB shop it there's one available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground
>>>loop?

>>
>>
>> Between the CB and the antenna.
>>

>
> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run
> both leads directly to the battery.


Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread.

BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect,
proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate
the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and
both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates
ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground
through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical
installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps
(at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise,
don't know why?

I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB
with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB
is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so
far....


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

XS11E 09-10-2007 01:59 AM

Re: CB power
 
twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:

> XS11E wrote:
>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>XS11E wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>DougW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground,
>>>>>>>>but where?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is
>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs
>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the
>>>>>battery grounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops
>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a
>>>>local CB shop it there's one available.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground
>>>loop?

>>
>>
>> Between the CB and the antenna.
>>

>
> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run
> both leads directly to the battery.


Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread.

BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect,
proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate
the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and
both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates
ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground
through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical
installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps
(at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise,
don't know why?

I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB
with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB
is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so
far....


--
XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

FrankW 09-10-2007 08:15 AM

Re: CB power
 
Here's a good link to read

http://www.neons.org/neontsb/TSB/08/081698.htm


Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
> here I am.
>
> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
> What I don't know is...
>
> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
> and neg terminals respectively?
>
> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?
>
> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>
> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?
>
>
> Thanks.
> n.



FrankW 09-10-2007 08:15 AM

Re: CB power
 
Here's a good link to read

http://www.neons.org/neontsb/TSB/08/081698.htm


Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
> here I am.
>
> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
> What I don't know is...
>
> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
> and neg terminals respectively?
>
> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?
>
> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>
> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?
>
>
> Thanks.
> n.



FrankW 09-10-2007 08:15 AM

Re: CB power
 
Here's a good link to read

http://www.neons.org/neontsb/TSB/08/081698.htm


Nathan Otis wrote:
>
> Hey fellas. I'm wiring a new CB tomorrow and I want to do it right. I
> can't find the exact answer I'm looking for on the All Seeing Eye, so
> here I am.
>
> When wiring power, I understand it's best to go to the source (battery).
> What I don't know is...
>
> 1. Should BOTH the red AND black wire be connected to the battery @ pos
> and neg terminals respectively?
>
> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, but where?
>
> 2a. Should I ground in the engine compartment or...
>
> 2b. Is it best to make the ground wire as short as possible (i.e.,
> shorten the black wire to around a foot or two and ground in the cab)?
>
>
> Thanks.
> n.




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