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Re: CB power
XS11E wrote:
> > I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB > with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB > is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so > far.... > > I ran a Radio Shack in my younger days and I have to agree with this. I always used a fused lighter socket plug so I could pull the unit at night. Sold a bunch to customers and never had a problem or complaint. For antennas I used both a center loaded magnet mount and a 108" stainless steel whip. Of course the whip gave better results, but again the magnet mount could be pulled at night. One caution with magnet mounts, make sure they're clean and dust free when you put them on. If the bottom of the magnet mount or vehicle surface is dirty it could mark the finish of the vehicle. -- FRH |
Re: CB power
XS11E wrote:
> > I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB > with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB > is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so > far.... > > I ran a Radio Shack in my younger days and I have to agree with this. I always used a fused lighter socket plug so I could pull the unit at night. Sold a bunch to customers and never had a problem or complaint. For antennas I used both a center loaded magnet mount and a 108" stainless steel whip. Of course the whip gave better results, but again the magnet mount could be pulled at night. One caution with magnet mounts, make sure they're clean and dust free when you put them on. If the bottom of the magnet mount or vehicle surface is dirty it could mark the finish of the vehicle. -- FRH |
Re: CB power
XS11E wrote:
> > I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB > with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB > is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so > far.... > > I ran a Radio Shack in my younger days and I have to agree with this. I always used a fused lighter socket plug so I could pull the unit at night. Sold a bunch to customers and never had a problem or complaint. For antennas I used both a center loaded magnet mount and a 108" stainless steel whip. Of course the whip gave better results, but again the magnet mount could be pulled at night. One caution with magnet mounts, make sure they're clean and dust free when you put them on. If the bottom of the magnet mount or vehicle surface is dirty it could mark the finish of the vehicle. -- FRH |
Re: CB power
XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: > > >>XS11E wrote: >> >>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>XS11E wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>DougW wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, >>>>>>>>>but where? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is >>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt. >>>>>> >>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs >>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the >>>>>>battery grounds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops >>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a >>>>>local CB shop it there's one available. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground >>>>loop? >>> >>> >>>Between the CB and the antenna. >>> >> >>Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run >>both leads directly to the battery. > > > Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread. > > BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect, > proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate > the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and > both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates > ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground > through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical > installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps > (at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise, > don't know why? > > I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB > with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB > is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so > far.... > > I have no idea WHAT you are talking about, and I don't agree with Bill S's post as far has how to mount a two-way radio. How is running both leads directly to the battery "not normally possible"??? It is the ONLY correct way to wire in a two way radio. You guys are posting misinformation. Please read the proper way to install a two-way radio before posting so Nathan can have a trouble free installation. BTW, powering a two-way radio through the cigaretter lighter port is the worst possible installation method available. tw |
Re: CB power
XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: > > >>XS11E wrote: >> >>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>XS11E wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>DougW wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, >>>>>>>>>but where? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is >>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt. >>>>>> >>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs >>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the >>>>>>battery grounds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops >>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a >>>>>local CB shop it there's one available. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground >>>>loop? >>> >>> >>>Between the CB and the antenna. >>> >> >>Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run >>both leads directly to the battery. > > > Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread. > > BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect, > proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate > the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and > both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates > ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground > through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical > installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps > (at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise, > don't know why? > > I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB > with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB > is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so > far.... > > I have no idea WHAT you are talking about, and I don't agree with Bill S's post as far has how to mount a two-way radio. How is running both leads directly to the battery "not normally possible"??? It is the ONLY correct way to wire in a two way radio. You guys are posting misinformation. Please read the proper way to install a two-way radio before posting so Nathan can have a trouble free installation. BTW, powering a two-way radio through the cigaretter lighter port is the worst possible installation method available. tw |
Re: CB power
XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: > > >>XS11E wrote: >> >>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>XS11E wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>DougW wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, >>>>>>>>>but where? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is >>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt. >>>>>> >>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs >>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the >>>>>>battery grounds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops >>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a >>>>>local CB shop it there's one available. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground >>>>loop? >>> >>> >>>Between the CB and the antenna. >>> >> >>Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run >>both leads directly to the battery. > > > Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread. > > BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect, > proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate > the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and > both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates > ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground > through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical > installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps > (at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise, > don't know why? > > I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB > with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB > is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so > far.... > > I have no idea WHAT you are talking about, and I don't agree with Bill S's post as far has how to mount a two-way radio. How is running both leads directly to the battery "not normally possible"??? It is the ONLY correct way to wire in a two way radio. You guys are posting misinformation. Please read the proper way to install a two-way radio before posting so Nathan can have a trouble free installation. BTW, powering a two-way radio through the cigaretter lighter port is the worst possible installation method available. tw |
Re: CB power
XS11E wrote:
> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: > > >>XS11E wrote: >> >>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>XS11E wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>DougW wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, >>>>>>>>>but where? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is >>>>>>>usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt. >>>>>> >>>>>>Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs >>>>>>the same function as running more lead to the block where the >>>>>>battery grounds. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops >>>>>causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a >>>>>local CB shop it there's one available. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground >>>>loop? >>> >>> >>>Between the CB and the antenna. >>> >> >>Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run >>both leads directly to the battery. > > > Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread. > > BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect, > proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate > the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and > both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates > ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will ground > through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a typical > installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, in Jeeps > (at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to create noise, > don't know why? > > I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB > with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the CB > is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well so > far.... > > I have no idea WHAT you are talking about, and I don't agree with Bill S's post as far has how to mount a two-way radio. How is running both leads directly to the battery "not normally possible"??? It is the ONLY correct way to wire in a two way radio. You guys are posting misinformation. Please read the proper way to install a two-way radio before posting so Nathan can have a trouble free installation. BTW, powering a two-way radio through the cigaretter lighter port is the worst possible installation method available. tw |
Re: CB power
twaldron wrote:
> XS11E wrote: >> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >> >> >>> XS11E wrote: >>> >>>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> XS11E wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> DougW wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, >>>>>>>>>> but where? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is >>>>>>>> usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs >>>>>>> the same function as running more lead to the block where the >>>>>>> battery grounds. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops >>>>>> causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a >>>>>> local CB shop it there's one available. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground >>>>> loop? >>>> >>>> >>>> Between the CB and the antenna. >>>> >>> >>> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run >>> both leads directly to the battery. >> >> >> Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread. >> >> BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect, >> proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate >> the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and >> both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates >> ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will >> ground through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a >> typical installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, >> in Jeeps (at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to >> create noise, don't know why? >> >> I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB >> with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the >> CB is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well >> so far.... >> >> > > I have no idea WHAT you are talking about, and I don't agree with Bill > S's post as far has how to mount a two-way radio. How is running both > leads directly to the battery "not normally possible"??? It is the ONLY > correct way to wire in a two way radio. You guys are posting > misinformation. Please read the proper way to install a two-way radio > before posting so Nathan can have a trouble free installation. BTW, > powering a two-way radio through the cigaretter lighter port is the > worst possible installation method available. > > tw For a Ham rig or a commercial two way I agree, but a CB draws a lot less power than those applications and the high end audio equipment that you "hear" out on the street today. A lighter plug power source for those high draw applications would be ridiculous. -- FRH |
Re: CB power
twaldron wrote:
> XS11E wrote: >> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >> >> >>> XS11E wrote: >>> >>>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> XS11E wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> DougW wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, >>>>>>>>>> but where? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is >>>>>>>> usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs >>>>>>> the same function as running more lead to the block where the >>>>>>> battery grounds. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops >>>>>> causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a >>>>>> local CB shop it there's one available. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground >>>>> loop? >>>> >>>> >>>> Between the CB and the antenna. >>>> >>> >>> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run >>> both leads directly to the battery. >> >> >> Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread. >> >> BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect, >> proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate >> the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and >> both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates >> ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will >> ground through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a >> typical installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, >> in Jeeps (at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to >> create noise, don't know why? >> >> I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB >> with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the >> CB is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well >> so far.... >> >> > > I have no idea WHAT you are talking about, and I don't agree with Bill > S's post as far has how to mount a two-way radio. How is running both > leads directly to the battery "not normally possible"??? It is the ONLY > correct way to wire in a two way radio. You guys are posting > misinformation. Please read the proper way to install a two-way radio > before posting so Nathan can have a trouble free installation. BTW, > powering a two-way radio through the cigaretter lighter port is the > worst possible installation method available. > > tw For a Ham rig or a commercial two way I agree, but a CB draws a lot less power than those applications and the high end audio equipment that you "hear" out on the street today. A lighter plug power source for those high draw applications would be ridiculous. -- FRH |
Re: CB power
twaldron wrote:
> XS11E wrote: >> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >> >> >>> XS11E wrote: >>> >>>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> XS11E wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> twaldron <dude@hairsproutingbunions.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> DougW wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2. If not, then the black wire should be attached to ground, >>>>>>>>>> but where? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Use the frame bolt where the battery - attaches. There is >>>>>>>> usually enough thread on that to put on another bolt. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why bother? Attaching at the NEG(-) battery terminal performs >>>>>>> the same function as running more lead to the block where the >>>>>>> battery grounds. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Because Jeeps have had problems in the past with ground loops >>>>>> causing CB noise. It might be worthwhile to consult with a >>>>>> local CB shop it there's one available. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If you are attaching at the battery, how do you get a ground >>>>> loop? >>>> >>>> >>>> Between the CB and the antenna. >>>> >>> >>> Then your radio or antenna or both are improperly installed. Run >>> both leads directly to the battery. >> >> >> Not normally possible, read Bill Spiliotopoulos' post in this thread. >> >> BTW, running both leads directly to the battery is also incorrect, >> proper installation is to isolate the CB from anything metal, isolate >> the antenna from anything metal, run the antenna ground to the CB and >> both power and ground from the CB to the battery. This eliminates >> ground loops but requires some engineering as most antennas will >> ground through the mount most CB mounts will ground to the body in a >> typical installation. In almost all cars and trucks this works fine, >> in Jeeps (at least the older Wagoneers and Cherokees) it seems to >> create noise, don't know why? >> >> I've never had any problems in any vehicle because I use a portable CB >> with a magnetic antenna. The antenna grounds only to the CB and the >> CB is powered by and grounded to the ligher socket. It's worked well >> so far.... >> >> > > I have no idea WHAT you are talking about, and I don't agree with Bill > S's post as far has how to mount a two-way radio. How is running both > leads directly to the battery "not normally possible"??? It is the ONLY > correct way to wire in a two way radio. You guys are posting > misinformation. Please read the proper way to install a two-way radio > before posting so Nathan can have a trouble free installation. BTW, > powering a two-way radio through the cigaretter lighter port is the > worst possible installation method available. > > tw For a Ham rig or a commercial two way I agree, but a CB draws a lot less power than those applications and the high end audio equipment that you "hear" out on the street today. A lighter plug power source for those high draw applications would be ridiculous. -- FRH |
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