Kyonn Gowans

I wonder if the conversion would be as easy on my '89 XJ?


"Larry Greenwood" <greenwoo@misu.nodak.edu> wrote in message
news:bvgu4h$rtmj2$1@ID-126251.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I had it done on a 98 XJ. Purchased a jeep rebuilt tc and had the dealer
> remove the old one and install the new one. The only other parts you
will
> need are the selectrac bezel indicator (with fulltime icon) and replace
the
> underlying command trac steel guide for the shifting pattern with the
> selectrac guide. Two small parts.
>
> I ordered the plastic bezel shift indicator, but forgot about the shifting
> guide. I was able to modify the command trac guide to function as a
> selectrac shifting guide...not a big job. Had to do some filing.
>
> BTW, the total cost was $1,700. Which was probably less than I would
have
> spent if it was factory installed, because the selectrac option came with
so
> many more options that I didn't need.
>
> Larry Greenwood
>
>
>
> "PLB49" <plb49@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040131095140.28324.00001123@mb-m15.aol.com...
> > I have an 01 XJ which I really like. It has the Command-Trac part-time
> 4wd,
> > and I wonder if it would be possible/practical to swap in the Selec-Trac
> > system?
> >
> > TIA!
> > Paul Busse
> > http://scienceteacher.biz/General/JEEPphotos/index.htm
> >
>
>

Kyonn Gowans

I wonder if the conversion would be as easy on my '89 XJ?


"Larry Greenwood" <greenwoo@misu.nodak.edu> wrote in message
news:bvgu4h$rtmj2$1@ID-126251.news.uni-berlin.de...
> I had it done on a 98 XJ. Purchased a jeep rebuilt tc and had the dealer
> remove the old one and install the new one. The only other parts you
will
> need are the selectrac bezel indicator (with fulltime icon) and replace
the
> underlying command trac steel guide for the shifting pattern with the
> selectrac guide. Two small parts.
>
> I ordered the plastic bezel shift indicator, but forgot about the shifting
> guide. I was able to modify the command trac guide to function as a
> selectrac shifting guide...not a big job. Had to do some filing.
>
> BTW, the total cost was $1,700. Which was probably less than I would
have
> spent if it was factory installed, because the selectrac option came with
so
> many more options that I didn't need.
>
> Larry Greenwood
>
>
>
> "PLB49" <plb49@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040131095140.28324.00001123@mb-m15.aol.com...
> > I have an 01 XJ which I really like. It has the Command-Trac part-time
> 4wd,
> > and I wonder if it would be possible/practical to swap in the Selec-Trac
> > system?
> >
> > TIA!
> > Paul Busse
> > http://scienceteacher.biz/General/JEEPphotos/index.htm
> >
>
>

Larry Greenwood

My only experience has been with the 98 XJ. Maybe some others on this list
can help.

I did work with the parts and service people at the local dealership. What
they didn't know they were willing to check on.

Of course, my 98 XJ was all stock with no modifications. Had it been lifted
or otherwise modified, the replacement compatibility might have been more
difficult to assess.

Assuming no modifications, I think that the key is to check the dealership
parts diagrams and see what if the drive lines are the same for either
transfer case. If so, it could be a simple change.

The change over was not cheap, as it cost me $1,700 and I could not get any
credit for the np231 which I still have. A large part of that cost was for
the jeep rebuilt transfer case. I could have gotten a cheaper one, but I
didn't want any hassles in case something when wrong. But I don't have any
regrets as I plan to keep the jeep for a long time.

Larry Greenwood


"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ea641abb16120fd9ae14a32d2851cc79@news.teranew s.com...
> I wonder if the conversion would be as easy on my '89 XJ?
>
>
> "Larry Greenwood" <greenwoo@misu.nodak.edu> wrote in message
> news:bvgu4h$rtmj2$1@ID-126251.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I had it done on a 98 XJ. Purchased a jeep rebuilt tc and had the
dealer
> > remove the old one and install the new one. The only other parts you
> will
> > need are the selectrac bezel indicator (with fulltime icon) and replace
> the
> > underlying command trac steel guide for the shifting pattern with the
> > selectrac guide. Two small parts.
> >
> > I ordered the plastic bezel shift indicator, but forgot about the
shifting
> > guide. I was able to modify the command trac guide to function as a
> > selectrac shifting guide...not a big job. Had to do some filing.
> >
> > BTW, the total cost was $1,700. Which was probably less than I would
> have
> > spent if it was factory installed, because the selectrac option came
with
> so
> > many more options that I didn't need.
> >
> > Larry Greenwood
> >
> >
> >
> > "PLB49" <plb49@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040131095140.28324.00001123@mb-m15.aol.com...
> > > I have an 01 XJ which I really like. It has the Command-Trac
part-time
> > 4wd,
> > > and I wonder if it would be possible/practical to swap in the
Selec-Trac
> > > system?
> > >
> > > TIA!
> > > Paul Busse
> > > http://scienceteacher.biz/General/JEEPphotos/index.htm
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Larry Greenwood

My only experience has been with the 98 XJ. Maybe some others on this list
can help.

I did work with the parts and service people at the local dealership. What
they didn't know they were willing to check on.

Of course, my 98 XJ was all stock with no modifications. Had it been lifted
or otherwise modified, the replacement compatibility might have been more
difficult to assess.

Assuming no modifications, I think that the key is to check the dealership
parts diagrams and see what if the drive lines are the same for either
transfer case. If so, it could be a simple change.

The change over was not cheap, as it cost me $1,700 and I could not get any
credit for the np231 which I still have. A large part of that cost was for
the jeep rebuilt transfer case. I could have gotten a cheaper one, but I
didn't want any hassles in case something when wrong. But I don't have any
regrets as I plan to keep the jeep for a long time.

Larry Greenwood


"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ea641abb16120fd9ae14a32d2851cc79@news.teranew s.com...
> I wonder if the conversion would be as easy on my '89 XJ?
>
>
> "Larry Greenwood" <greenwoo@misu.nodak.edu> wrote in message
> news:bvgu4h$rtmj2$1@ID-126251.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I had it done on a 98 XJ. Purchased a jeep rebuilt tc and had the
dealer
> > remove the old one and install the new one. The only other parts you
> will
> > need are the selectrac bezel indicator (with fulltime icon) and replace
> the
> > underlying command trac steel guide for the shifting pattern with the
> > selectrac guide. Two small parts.
> >
> > I ordered the plastic bezel shift indicator, but forgot about the
shifting
> > guide. I was able to modify the command trac guide to function as a
> > selectrac shifting guide...not a big job. Had to do some filing.
> >
> > BTW, the total cost was $1,700. Which was probably less than I would
> have
> > spent if it was factory installed, because the selectrac option came
with
> so
> > many more options that I didn't need.
> >
> > Larry Greenwood
> >
> >
> >
> > "PLB49" <plb49@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040131095140.28324.00001123@mb-m15.aol.com...
> > > I have an 01 XJ which I really like. It has the Command-Trac
part-time
> > 4wd,
> > > and I wonder if it would be possible/practical to swap in the
Selec-Trac
> > > system?
> > >
> > > TIA!
> > > Paul Busse
> > > http://scienceteacher.biz/General/JEEPphotos/index.htm
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Larry Greenwood

My only experience has been with the 98 XJ. Maybe some others on this list
can help.

I did work with the parts and service people at the local dealership. What
they didn't know they were willing to check on.

Of course, my 98 XJ was all stock with no modifications. Had it been lifted
or otherwise modified, the replacement compatibility might have been more
difficult to assess.

Assuming no modifications, I think that the key is to check the dealership
parts diagrams and see what if the drive lines are the same for either
transfer case. If so, it could be a simple change.

The change over was not cheap, as it cost me $1,700 and I could not get any
credit for the np231 which I still have. A large part of that cost was for
the jeep rebuilt transfer case. I could have gotten a cheaper one, but I
didn't want any hassles in case something when wrong. But I don't have any
regrets as I plan to keep the jeep for a long time.

Larry Greenwood


"Kyonn Gowans" <kyonn@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ea641abb16120fd9ae14a32d2851cc79@news.teranew s.com...
> I wonder if the conversion would be as easy on my '89 XJ?
>
>
> "Larry Greenwood" <greenwoo@misu.nodak.edu> wrote in message
> news:bvgu4h$rtmj2$1@ID-126251.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > I had it done on a 98 XJ. Purchased a jeep rebuilt tc and had the
dealer
> > remove the old one and install the new one. The only other parts you
> will
> > need are the selectrac bezel indicator (with fulltime icon) and replace
> the
> > underlying command trac steel guide for the shifting pattern with the
> > selectrac guide. Two small parts.
> >
> > I ordered the plastic bezel shift indicator, but forgot about the
shifting
> > guide. I was able to modify the command trac guide to function as a
> > selectrac shifting guide...not a big job. Had to do some filing.
> >
> > BTW, the total cost was $1,700. Which was probably less than I would
> have
> > spent if it was factory installed, because the selectrac option came
with
> so
> > many more options that I didn't need.
> >
> > Larry Greenwood
> >
> >
> >
> > "PLB49" <plb49@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:20040131095140.28324.00001123@mb-m15.aol.com...
> > > I have an 01 XJ which I really like. It has the Command-Trac
part-time
> > 4wd,
> > > and I wonder if it would be possible/practical to swap in the
Selec-Trac
> > > system?
> > >
> > > TIA!
> > > Paul Busse
> > > http://scienceteacher.biz/General/JEEPphotos/index.htm
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

Jerry,

How does the NP229 Select-Trac in my Waggy compare to the NP242 ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Sahara

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:iTVTb.9182$1O.1436@fed1read05...
> For all-around use, there is no doubt among non-biased knowledgeable
Jeepers
> that the NP242 Selectrac is the preferable choice. It has all of the
> off-road only part-time modes of the NP231 (which locks the front and rear
> axles together for more aggressive 4x4 ability), in addition to the
> full-time 4wd setting so useful in bad weather on the highway. The
> full-time 4wd setting connects the front and rear axles together via a
> differential so you can run 4wd on the highway without the problems you'd
> have with a part-time system that locks the front and rear differentials
> together.
>
> If some yahoo wants to say the NP-231 is slightly stronger, fine... but
the
> NP-241 doesn't have a history of breaking offroad anyway. Indeed, the
> National Forest Service, at least in the local Anza-Borrego National Park,
> uses NP-241 Selectrac-equipped Cherokees for their offroad desert
patroling
> needs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "pipo" <pipo@hi.hinet.hr> wrote in message
> news:bvp75g$i57$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
> > In my rig, combination is 2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L. So which one is better
for
> > ''all around'' use, 231 or 242?
> > Thanks.
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:401FFE37.1E57AC11@***.net...
> > > If you're lucky you have the Command-Trac, New Processor 231
> > > (part-time) Transfer 2H, 4H, N, 4L :
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/xfer/np231.html Part-time, means you
> > > may not drive in the four wheel drive positions on pavement or where
> > > traction is good.
> > > If you have my luck you have the Selec-Trac, New Processor 242
> > > (full-time) Transfer 2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/xfer/np242.html and:
> > > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

Jerry,

How does the NP229 Select-Trac in my Waggy compare to the NP242 ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Sahara

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:iTVTb.9182$1O.1436@fed1read05...
> For all-around use, there is no doubt among non-biased knowledgeable
Jeepers
> that the NP242 Selectrac is the preferable choice. It has all of the
> off-road only part-time modes of the NP231 (which locks the front and rear
> axles together for more aggressive 4x4 ability), in addition to the
> full-time 4wd setting so useful in bad weather on the highway. The
> full-time 4wd setting connects the front and rear axles together via a
> differential so you can run 4wd on the highway without the problems you'd
> have with a part-time system that locks the front and rear differentials
> together.
>
> If some yahoo wants to say the NP-231 is slightly stronger, fine... but
the
> NP-241 doesn't have a history of breaking offroad anyway. Indeed, the
> National Forest Service, at least in the local Anza-Borrego National Park,
> uses NP-241 Selectrac-equipped Cherokees for their offroad desert
patroling
> needs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "pipo" <pipo@hi.hinet.hr> wrote in message
> news:bvp75g$i57$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
> > In my rig, combination is 2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L. So which one is better
for
> > ''all around'' use, 231 or 242?
> > Thanks.
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:401FFE37.1E57AC11@***.net...
> > > If you're lucky you have the Command-Trac, New Processor 231
> > > (part-time) Transfer 2H, 4H, N, 4L :
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/xfer/np231.html Part-time, means you
> > > may not drive in the four wheel drive positions on pavement or where
> > > traction is good.
> > > If you have my luck you have the Selec-Trac, New Processor 242
> > > (full-time) Transfer 2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/xfer/np242.html and:
> > > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
>
>

Dave Milne

Jerry,

How does the NP229 Select-Trac in my Waggy compare to the NP242 ?

Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ Sahara

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@mecox.net> wrote in message
news:iTVTb.9182$1O.1436@fed1read05...
> For all-around use, there is no doubt among non-biased knowledgeable
Jeepers
> that the NP242 Selectrac is the preferable choice. It has all of the
> off-road only part-time modes of the NP231 (which locks the front and rear
> axles together for more aggressive 4x4 ability), in addition to the
> full-time 4wd setting so useful in bad weather on the highway. The
> full-time 4wd setting connects the front and rear axles together via a
> differential so you can run 4wd on the highway without the problems you'd
> have with a part-time system that locks the front and rear differentials
> together.
>
> If some yahoo wants to say the NP-231 is slightly stronger, fine... but
the
> NP-241 doesn't have a history of breaking offroad anyway. Indeed, the
> National Forest Service, at least in the local Anza-Borrego National Park,
> uses NP-241 Selectrac-equipped Cherokees for their offroad desert
patroling
> needs.
>
> Jerry
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> To email, remove 'me' from my email address
> N6TAY, PP-ASEL
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
> "pipo" <pipo@hi.hinet.hr> wrote in message
> news:bvp75g$i57$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
> > In my rig, combination is 2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L. So which one is better
for
> > ''all around'' use, 231 or 242?
> > Thanks.
> > "L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:401FFE37.1E57AC11@***.net...
> > > If you're lucky you have the Command-Trac, New Processor 231
> > > (part-time) Transfer 2H, 4H, N, 4L :
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/xfer/np231.html Part-time, means you
> > > may not drive in the four wheel drive positions on pavement or where
> > > traction is good.
> > > If you have my luck you have the Selec-Trac, New Processor 242
> > > (full-time) Transfer 2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L:
> > > http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/xfer/np242.html and:
> > > http://www.wjjeeps.com/tcases.htm
> > > God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> > > mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> >
> >
>
>