Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
01-27-2006, 04:48 PM
#131
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Maybe you need something like this:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...2772921&idx=40
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
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> Andrew VK3BFA writes:
>
>> could I
>> humbly suggest that a sticker saying "max towing weight 1,000lbs" be
>> put on the thing?
>
> If it ever came down to a situation where someone would read it, and heed
> it, then I might do something like that. For my personal use, why bother.
> (On the other hand, I've never had much use for that steel punch stamping
> kit, maybe I'll stamp it on there for that Canadian trip someday, heh
> heh.)
>
> This whole culture of Jeep hitches has me baffled. People insist on
> putting class III hitches on a short-wheelbase soft-top vehicle that
> dubiously purports even a minimal 2000 lb capacity. The guys who also
> have
> the jacked-up suspensions, cheating death with their unstable aftermarket
> mods, are the extreme version of this.
>
> THere is a kind of "impedance matching" optimization to this type of
> design, and I believe I've approximated it for the intended application.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...2772921&idx=40
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9758A23FA26A3someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Andrew VK3BFA writes:
>
>> could I
>> humbly suggest that a sticker saying "max towing weight 1,000lbs" be
>> put on the thing?
>
> If it ever came down to a situation where someone would read it, and heed
> it, then I might do something like that. For my personal use, why bother.
> (On the other hand, I've never had much use for that steel punch stamping
> kit, maybe I'll stamp it on there for that Canadian trip someday, heh
> heh.)
>
> This whole culture of Jeep hitches has me baffled. People insist on
> putting class III hitches on a short-wheelbase soft-top vehicle that
> dubiously purports even a minimal 2000 lb capacity. The guys who also
> have
> the jacked-up suspensions, cheating death with their unstable aftermarket
> mods, are the extreme version of this.
>
> THere is a kind of "impedance matching" optimization to this type of
> design, and I believe I've approximated it for the intended application.
01-27-2006, 04:48 PM
#132
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Maybe you need something like this:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...2772921&idx=40
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9758A23FA26A3someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Andrew VK3BFA writes:
>
>> could I
>> humbly suggest that a sticker saying "max towing weight 1,000lbs" be
>> put on the thing?
>
> If it ever came down to a situation where someone would read it, and heed
> it, then I might do something like that. For my personal use, why bother.
> (On the other hand, I've never had much use for that steel punch stamping
> kit, maybe I'll stamp it on there for that Canadian trip someday, heh
> heh.)
>
> This whole culture of Jeep hitches has me baffled. People insist on
> putting class III hitches on a short-wheelbase soft-top vehicle that
> dubiously purports even a minimal 2000 lb capacity. The guys who also
> have
> the jacked-up suspensions, cheating death with their unstable aftermarket
> mods, are the extreme version of this.
>
> THere is a kind of "impedance matching" optimization to this type of
> design, and I believe I've approximated it for the intended application.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...2772921&idx=40
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9758A23FA26A3someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Andrew VK3BFA writes:
>
>> could I
>> humbly suggest that a sticker saying "max towing weight 1,000lbs" be
>> put on the thing?
>
> If it ever came down to a situation where someone would read it, and heed
> it, then I might do something like that. For my personal use, why bother.
> (On the other hand, I've never had much use for that steel punch stamping
> kit, maybe I'll stamp it on there for that Canadian trip someday, heh
> heh.)
>
> This whole culture of Jeep hitches has me baffled. People insist on
> putting class III hitches on a short-wheelbase soft-top vehicle that
> dubiously purports even a minimal 2000 lb capacity. The guys who also
> have
> the jacked-up suspensions, cheating death with their unstable aftermarket
> mods, are the extreme version of this.
>
> THere is a kind of "impedance matching" optimization to this type of
> design, and I believe I've approximated it for the intended application.
01-27-2006, 04:48 PM
#133
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Maybe you need something like this:
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...2772921&idx=40
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9758A23FA26A3someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Andrew VK3BFA writes:
>
>> could I
>> humbly suggest that a sticker saying "max towing weight 1,000lbs" be
>> put on the thing?
>
> If it ever came down to a situation where someone would read it, and heed
> it, then I might do something like that. For my personal use, why bother.
> (On the other hand, I've never had much use for that steel punch stamping
> kit, maybe I'll stamp it on there for that Canadian trip someday, heh
> heh.)
>
> This whole culture of Jeep hitches has me baffled. People insist on
> putting class III hitches on a short-wheelbase soft-top vehicle that
> dubiously purports even a minimal 2000 lb capacity. The guys who also
> have
> the jacked-up suspensions, cheating death with their unstable aftermarket
> mods, are the extreme version of this.
>
> THere is a kind of "impedance matching" optimization to this type of
> design, and I believe I've approximated it for the intended application.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...2772921&idx=40
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9758A23FA26A3someconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
> Andrew VK3BFA writes:
>
>> could I
>> humbly suggest that a sticker saying "max towing weight 1,000lbs" be
>> put on the thing?
>
> If it ever came down to a situation where someone would read it, and heed
> it, then I might do something like that. For my personal use, why bother.
> (On the other hand, I've never had much use for that steel punch stamping
> kit, maybe I'll stamp it on there for that Canadian trip someday, heh
> heh.)
>
> This whole culture of Jeep hitches has me baffled. People insist on
> putting class III hitches on a short-wheelbase soft-top vehicle that
> dubiously purports even a minimal 2000 lb capacity. The guys who also
> have
> the jacked-up suspensions, cheating death with their unstable aftermarket
> mods, are the extreme version of this.
>
> THere is a kind of "impedance matching" optimization to this type of
> design, and I believe I've approximated it for the intended application.
01-27-2006, 05:03 PM
#134
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to pull
another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UhrCf.23988$C%3.11375@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> If the bumper were suitable for load-bearing then why does Jeep not sell
>> this simple little option.
>
> One thing that I noticed that I would at least re-engineer a bit was the
> fact that it appears that his hitch plate does not have a backing plate
> behind the thin metal of the Jeep bumper... I would think that he should
> at
> least have a backing plate as large as the hitch plate inside the bumper
> to
> distribute the load across a greater area... An even better idea might be
> to
> have this backing plate large enough to traverse the full with of the
> bumper... Once you're at that point, maybe you should even consider having
> this 'backing plate' tie in to the frame of the vehicle... Of course, by
> this point, it would have probably been easier to just build a real bumper
> from scratch... <grin>
>
>> There is a reason you can not buy a Jeep with a bumper hitch
>> option on it. I would think that the Jeep engineers know what
>> they are doing,
>
> Not a good analogy... These are the same engineers who designed the
> problematic manifold that cracks and the motor mount bolts that haved
> sheered off on my XJ multiple times?
>
>
another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:UqwCf.6166$jO.2370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> "cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UhrCf.23988$C%3.11375@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> If the bumper were suitable for load-bearing then why does Jeep not sell
>> this simple little option.
>
> One thing that I noticed that I would at least re-engineer a bit was the
> fact that it appears that his hitch plate does not have a backing plate
> behind the thin metal of the Jeep bumper... I would think that he should
> at
> least have a backing plate as large as the hitch plate inside the bumper
> to
> distribute the load across a greater area... An even better idea might be
> to
> have this backing plate large enough to traverse the full with of the
> bumper... Once you're at that point, maybe you should even consider having
> this 'backing plate' tie in to the frame of the vehicle... Of course, by
> this point, it would have probably been easier to just build a real bumper
> from scratch... <grin>
>
>> There is a reason you can not buy a Jeep with a bumper hitch
>> option on it. I would think that the Jeep engineers know what
>> they are doing,
>
> Not a good analogy... These are the same engineers who designed the
> problematic manifold that cracks and the motor mount bolts that haved
> sheered off on my XJ multiple times?
>
>
01-27-2006, 05:03 PM
#135
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to pull
another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:UqwCf.6166$jO.2370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> "cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UhrCf.23988$C%3.11375@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> If the bumper were suitable for load-bearing then why does Jeep not sell
>> this simple little option.
>
> One thing that I noticed that I would at least re-engineer a bit was the
> fact that it appears that his hitch plate does not have a backing plate
> behind the thin metal of the Jeep bumper... I would think that he should
> at
> least have a backing plate as large as the hitch plate inside the bumper
> to
> distribute the load across a greater area... An even better idea might be
> to
> have this backing plate large enough to traverse the full with of the
> bumper... Once you're at that point, maybe you should even consider having
> this 'backing plate' tie in to the frame of the vehicle... Of course, by
> this point, it would have probably been easier to just build a real bumper
> from scratch... <grin>
>
>> There is a reason you can not buy a Jeep with a bumper hitch
>> option on it. I would think that the Jeep engineers know what
>> they are doing,
>
> Not a good analogy... These are the same engineers who designed the
> problematic manifold that cracks and the motor mount bolts that haved
> sheered off on my XJ multiple times?
>
>
another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:UqwCf.6166$jO.2370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> "cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UhrCf.23988$C%3.11375@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> If the bumper were suitable for load-bearing then why does Jeep not sell
>> this simple little option.
>
> One thing that I noticed that I would at least re-engineer a bit was the
> fact that it appears that his hitch plate does not have a backing plate
> behind the thin metal of the Jeep bumper... I would think that he should
> at
> least have a backing plate as large as the hitch plate inside the bumper
> to
> distribute the load across a greater area... An even better idea might be
> to
> have this backing plate large enough to traverse the full with of the
> bumper... Once you're at that point, maybe you should even consider having
> this 'backing plate' tie in to the frame of the vehicle... Of course, by
> this point, it would have probably been easier to just build a real bumper
> from scratch... <grin>
>
>> There is a reason you can not buy a Jeep with a bumper hitch
>> option on it. I would think that the Jeep engineers know what
>> they are doing,
>
> Not a good analogy... These are the same engineers who designed the
> problematic manifold that cracks and the motor mount bolts that haved
> sheered off on my XJ multiple times?
>
>
01-27-2006, 05:03 PM
#136
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to pull
another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:UqwCf.6166$jO.2370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> "cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UhrCf.23988$C%3.11375@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> If the bumper were suitable for load-bearing then why does Jeep not sell
>> this simple little option.
>
> One thing that I noticed that I would at least re-engineer a bit was the
> fact that it appears that his hitch plate does not have a backing plate
> behind the thin metal of the Jeep bumper... I would think that he should
> at
> least have a backing plate as large as the hitch plate inside the bumper
> to
> distribute the load across a greater area... An even better idea might be
> to
> have this backing plate large enough to traverse the full with of the
> bumper... Once you're at that point, maybe you should even consider having
> this 'backing plate' tie in to the frame of the vehicle... Of course, by
> this point, it would have probably been easier to just build a real bumper
> from scratch... <grin>
>
>> There is a reason you can not buy a Jeep with a bumper hitch
>> option on it. I would think that the Jeep engineers know what
>> they are doing,
>
> Not a good analogy... These are the same engineers who designed the
> problematic manifold that cracks and the motor mount bolts that haved
> sheered off on my XJ multiple times?
>
>
another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
"Grumman-581" <grumman581@DIE-SPAMMER-SCUM@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:UqwCf.6166$jO.2370@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> "cantrelm" <cantrelm@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:UhrCf.23988$C%3.11375@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>> If the bumper were suitable for load-bearing then why does Jeep not sell
>> this simple little option.
>
> One thing that I noticed that I would at least re-engineer a bit was the
> fact that it appears that his hitch plate does not have a backing plate
> behind the thin metal of the Jeep bumper... I would think that he should
> at
> least have a backing plate as large as the hitch plate inside the bumper
> to
> distribute the load across a greater area... An even better idea might be
> to
> have this backing plate large enough to traverse the full with of the
> bumper... Once you're at that point, maybe you should even consider having
> this 'backing plate' tie in to the frame of the vehicle... Of course, by
> this point, it would have probably been easier to just build a real bumper
> from scratch... <grin>
>
>> There is a reason you can not buy a Jeep with a bumper hitch
>> option on it. I would think that the Jeep engineers know what
>> they are doing,
>
> Not a good analogy... These are the same engineers who designed the
> problematic manifold that cracks and the motor mount bolts that haved
> sheered off on my XJ multiple times?
>
>
01-27-2006, 05:45 PM
#137
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Billy,
I think you are referring to this video.
http://dtu.ifh.dk/Jokes/Film/web/snowtowcar.mpg.html
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
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> Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to
pull
> another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
>
> I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
>
>
I think you are referring to this video.
http://dtu.ifh.dk/Jokes/Film/web/snowtowcar.mpg.html
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:77c41$43da9911$4831b233$27179@FUSE.NET...
> Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to
pull
> another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
>
> I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
>
>
01-27-2006, 05:45 PM
#138
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Billy,
I think you are referring to this video.
http://dtu.ifh.dk/Jokes/Film/web/snowtowcar.mpg.html
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:77c41$43da9911$4831b233$27179@FUSE.NET...
> Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to
pull
> another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
>
> I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
>
>
I think you are referring to this video.
http://dtu.ifh.dk/Jokes/Film/web/snowtowcar.mpg.html
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:77c41$43da9911$4831b233$27179@FUSE.NET...
> Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to
pull
> another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
>
> I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
>
>
01-27-2006, 05:45 PM
#139
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
Billy,
I think you are referring to this video.
http://dtu.ifh.dk/Jokes/Film/web/snowtowcar.mpg.html
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:77c41$43da9911$4831b233$27179@FUSE.NET...
> Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to
pull
> another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
>
> I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
>
>
I think you are referring to this video.
http://dtu.ifh.dk/Jokes/Film/web/snowtowcar.mpg.html
Tom
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:77c41$43da9911$4831b233$27179@FUSE.NET...
> Who has the video of a rear bumper being ripped off while attempting to
pull
> another vehicle out of the snow alongside the road?
>
> I saw a link to it sometime in the last 6 months or so...
>
>
01-27-2006, 05:57 PM
#140
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Re: Bumper-mounted trailer hitch bracket for Jeep Wrangler TJ
"Richard J Kinch" <kinch@truetex.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
I saw your family photo on your website... Damn man, you sure have a lot of
kids (9!!!)... Did you know that they have figured out what cause that these
days? HINT -- It's not in the water...
news:Xns975613FB99DCAsomeconundrum@216.196.97.131. ..
<snip>
I saw your family photo on your website... Damn man, you sure have a lot of
kids (9!!!)... Did you know that they have figured out what cause that these
days? HINT -- It's not in the water...
