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There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
Carl
Matt Mead wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were a lot
>>of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck that was
>>actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had jumpseats. <g>
>>
>>-Matt
>
>
>
> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>
> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>
> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
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floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
Carl
Matt Mead wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were a lot
>>of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck that was
>>actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had jumpseats. <g>
>>
>>-Matt
>
>
>
> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>
> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>
> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
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There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
Carl
Matt Mead wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were a lot
>>of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck that was
>>actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had jumpseats. <g>
>>
>>-Matt
>
>
>
> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>
> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>
> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
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floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
Carl
Matt Mead wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were a lot
>>of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck that was
>>actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had jumpseats. <g>
>>
>>-Matt
>
>
>
> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>
> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>
> Matt
> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
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Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
> There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
> floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
>
> Carl
>
>
> Matt Mead wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
>> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were
>>> a lot
>>> of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>> capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck
>>> that was
>>> actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had
>>> jumpseats. <g>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
>> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
>> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>>
>> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>>
>> Matt
>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
>
>
I owned a 1987 BRAT for 9 years. Definitely one of the best vehicles I
have ever owned. It went off road really well although I wouldn't use it
for the Rubicon trail. It had a part-time two speed shift on the fly
transfer case with the hubs permanently locked. It also has adjustable
height torsion bars on the rear and adjustable height struts on the
front. Crap, the thing also had a gear driven cam and hydraulic lifters.
No maintenance at all. I kind of miss it. It was also was waaay better
lookin than the Baja. Mine didn't have the jump seats so the bed was
usable. I actually was able to put a Gold Wing back there.
--
Rob Munach, PE
Excel Engineering
PO Box 1264
Carrboro, NC 27510
> There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
> floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
>
> Carl
>
>
> Matt Mead wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
>> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were
>>> a lot
>>> of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>> capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck
>>> that was
>>> actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had
>>> jumpseats. <g>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
>> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
>> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>>
>> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>>
>> Matt
>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
>
>
I owned a 1987 BRAT for 9 years. Definitely one of the best vehicles I
have ever owned. It went off road really well although I wouldn't use it
for the Rubicon trail. It had a part-time two speed shift on the fly
transfer case with the hubs permanently locked. It also has adjustable
height torsion bars on the rear and adjustable height struts on the
front. Crap, the thing also had a gear driven cam and hydraulic lifters.
No maintenance at all. I kind of miss it. It was also was waaay better
lookin than the Baja. Mine didn't have the jump seats so the bed was
usable. I actually was able to put a Gold Wing back there.
--
Rob Munach, PE
Excel Engineering
PO Box 1264
Carrboro, NC 27510
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Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
> There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
> floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
>
> Carl
>
>
> Matt Mead wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
>> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were
>>> a lot
>>> of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>> capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck
>>> that was
>>> actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had
>>> jumpseats. <g>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
>> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
>> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>>
>> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>>
>> Matt
>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
>
>
I owned a 1987 BRAT for 9 years. Definitely one of the best vehicles I
have ever owned. It went off road really well although I wouldn't use it
for the Rubicon trail. It had a part-time two speed shift on the fly
transfer case with the hubs permanently locked. It also has adjustable
height torsion bars on the rear and adjustable height struts on the
front. Crap, the thing also had a gear driven cam and hydraulic lifters.
No maintenance at all. I kind of miss it. It was also was waaay better
lookin than the Baja. Mine didn't have the jump seats so the bed was
usable. I actually was able to put a Gold Wing back there.
--
Rob Munach, PE
Excel Engineering
PO Box 1264
Carrboro, NC 27510
> There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
> floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
>
> Carl
>
>
> Matt Mead wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
>> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were
>>> a lot
>>> of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>> capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck
>>> that was
>>> actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had
>>> jumpseats. <g>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
>> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
>> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>>
>> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>>
>> Matt
>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
>
>
I owned a 1987 BRAT for 9 years. Definitely one of the best vehicles I
have ever owned. It went off road really well although I wouldn't use it
for the Rubicon trail. It had a part-time two speed shift on the fly
transfer case with the hubs permanently locked. It also has adjustable
height torsion bars on the rear and adjustable height struts on the
front. Crap, the thing also had a gear driven cam and hydraulic lifters.
No maintenance at all. I kind of miss it. It was also was waaay better
lookin than the Baja. Mine didn't have the jump seats so the bed was
usable. I actually was able to put a Gold Wing back there.
--
Rob Munach, PE
Excel Engineering
PO Box 1264
Carrboro, NC 27510
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Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote:
> There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
> floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
>
> Carl
>
>
> Matt Mead wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
>> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were
>>> a lot
>>> of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>> capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck
>>> that was
>>> actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had
>>> jumpseats. <g>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
>> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
>> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>>
>> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>>
>> Matt
>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
>
>
I owned a 1987 BRAT for 9 years. Definitely one of the best vehicles I
have ever owned. It went off road really well although I wouldn't use it
for the Rubicon trail. It had a part-time two speed shift on the fly
transfer case with the hubs permanently locked. It also has adjustable
height torsion bars on the rear and adjustable height struts on the
front. Crap, the thing also had a gear driven cam and hydraulic lifters.
No maintenance at all. I kind of miss it. It was also was waaay better
lookin than the Baja. Mine didn't have the jump seats so the bed was
usable. I actually was able to put a Gold Wing back there.
--
Rob Munach, PE
Excel Engineering
PO Box 1264
Carrboro, NC 27510
> There are rumors of a foreign market only dual range tranny that is
> floating around. Dunno if it fits newer US Soobs though.
>
> Carl
>
>
> Matt Mead wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 17:36:43 GMT, "Hallraker"
>> <hallraker79@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> That's probably true. At least off the lot, anyway. There are/were
>>> a lot
>>> of aftermarket parts and accessories designed to increase the off-road
>>> capabilities of the Brat, which were pretty good for a tiny truck
>>> that was
>>> actually a car anyway. And do not forget that the Brat had
>>> jumpseats. <g>
>>>
>>> -Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've actually looked at a few websites that had info on off-roading
>> Subarus. Kinda interesting and they would make a unique off-roader.
>> Gearing has to be a big issue though as the tires get bigger.....
>>
>> The Brat was definately cool in its day!
>>
>> Matt
>> 99 V-10 Super Duty, Super Cab 4x4
>
>
I owned a 1987 BRAT for 9 years. Definitely one of the best vehicles I
have ever owned. It went off road really well although I wouldn't use it
for the Rubicon trail. It had a part-time two speed shift on the fly
transfer case with the hubs permanently locked. It also has adjustable
height torsion bars on the rear and adjustable height struts on the
front. Crap, the thing also had a gear driven cam and hydraulic lifters.
No maintenance at all. I kind of miss it. It was also was waaay better
lookin than the Baja. Mine didn't have the jump seats so the bed was
usable. I actually was able to put a Gold Wing back there.
--
Rob Munach, PE
Excel Engineering
PO Box 1264
Carrboro, NC 27510
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>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
>>> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ
>>
>> Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
>> to know more.
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
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>>
>> Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
>> to know more.
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
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>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
>>> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ
>>
>> Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
>> to know more.
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
available in olive-drab instead of robin-egg blue?
-D
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>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
>>> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ
>>
>> Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
>> to know more.
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
available in olive-drab instead of robin-egg blue?
-D
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> "Derrick Hudson" <dman@dman13.dyndns.org> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
>>> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ
>>
>> Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
>> to know more.
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
available in olive-drab instead of robin-egg blue?
-D
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>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 15:24:20 -0500, Peter D. Hipson wrote:
>>> Yes, but let's not go there (I have both a Hummer, and a TJ
>>
>> Since you've been in both, what's your opinion on them? I'm curious
>> to know more.
>
> everything (and i mean _everything_) you ever needed to know about how a
> hummer compares to a tj can be found at http://7slotgrille.com/hummer
Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
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That was an Air Force Jeep:
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Toys/MatchboxRAF.html ;-)
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>
> Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
> available in olive-drab instead of robin-egg blue?
>
> -D
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> Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
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>
> -D
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Derrick Hudson wrote:
>
> Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
> available in olive-drab instead of robin-egg blue?
>
> -D
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>
> Very nice. Where did Joe get those vehicles from? Is the MB
> available in olive-drab instead of robin-egg blue?
>
> -D


