Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
04-23-2004, 02:19 PM
#51
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Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
Sure Bill.
The status of the intake gasket is in question too. As long as it has
cracked, things have shifted and they share bolts. The crack also makes
a lot of heat movement of parts.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "George J. McFadden" wrote:
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, Mike. Once this header is installed I will begin my
> > quest to get my money back for the unnecessary carb repair. I quizzed
> > them yesterday on it again - the fact that a new carb made no change to
> > the way the jeep ran - and they again said they "had" to replace it due
> > to the "bend air horn". I have the pic you sent so I plan on
> > confronting them with the "evidence".
> >
> > Logically it makes sense that the Carter carb was fine. Assuming it
> > runs great once the manifold is replaced the following is true.
> >
> > Jeep runs bad, has exhaust manifold leak. Taken to shop to adjust fuel
> > air mix.
> > Carb diagnosed as prob and replaced. Exhaust manifold leak still
> > present.
> > No change in how jeep runs.
> > Exhaust manifold replaced. Jeep runs fine.
> >
> > Logic says that problem was not with carb but with the manifold leak.
> > Carb did not need to be replaced.
> >
> > Does this sound right?
> >
> > George
> > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > 98 Ram 1500 5.9L
> > 00 SV650
The status of the intake gasket is in question too. As long as it has
cracked, things have shifted and they share bolts. The crack also makes
a lot of heat movement of parts.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "George J. McFadden" wrote:
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, Mike. Once this header is installed I will begin my
> > quest to get my money back for the unnecessary carb repair. I quizzed
> > them yesterday on it again - the fact that a new carb made no change to
> > the way the jeep ran - and they again said they "had" to replace it due
> > to the "bend air horn". I have the pic you sent so I plan on
> > confronting them with the "evidence".
> >
> > Logically it makes sense that the Carter carb was fine. Assuming it
> > runs great once the manifold is replaced the following is true.
> >
> > Jeep runs bad, has exhaust manifold leak. Taken to shop to adjust fuel
> > air mix.
> > Carb diagnosed as prob and replaced. Exhaust manifold leak still
> > present.
> > No change in how jeep runs.
> > Exhaust manifold replaced. Jeep runs fine.
> >
> > Logic says that problem was not with carb but with the manifold leak.
> > Carb did not need to be replaced.
> >
> > Does this sound right?
> >
> > George
> > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > 98 Ram 1500 5.9L
> > 00 SV650
04-23-2004, 02:19 PM
#52
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Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
Sure Bill.
The status of the intake gasket is in question too. As long as it has
cracked, things have shifted and they share bolts. The crack also makes
a lot of heat movement of parts.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "George J. McFadden" wrote:
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, Mike. Once this header is installed I will begin my
> > quest to get my money back for the unnecessary carb repair. I quizzed
> > them yesterday on it again - the fact that a new carb made no change to
> > the way the jeep ran - and they again said they "had" to replace it due
> > to the "bend air horn". I have the pic you sent so I plan on
> > confronting them with the "evidence".
> >
> > Logically it makes sense that the Carter carb was fine. Assuming it
> > runs great once the manifold is replaced the following is true.
> >
> > Jeep runs bad, has exhaust manifold leak. Taken to shop to adjust fuel
> > air mix.
> > Carb diagnosed as prob and replaced. Exhaust manifold leak still
> > present.
> > No change in how jeep runs.
> > Exhaust manifold replaced. Jeep runs fine.
> >
> > Logic says that problem was not with carb but with the manifold leak.
> > Carb did not need to be replaced.
> >
> > Does this sound right?
> >
> > George
> > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > 98 Ram 1500 5.9L
> > 00 SV650
The status of the intake gasket is in question too. As long as it has
cracked, things have shifted and they share bolts. The crack also makes
a lot of heat movement of parts.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "George J. McFadden" wrote:
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, Mike. Once this header is installed I will begin my
> > quest to get my money back for the unnecessary carb repair. I quizzed
> > them yesterday on it again - the fact that a new carb made no change to
> > the way the jeep ran - and they again said they "had" to replace it due
> > to the "bend air horn". I have the pic you sent so I plan on
> > confronting them with the "evidence".
> >
> > Logically it makes sense that the Carter carb was fine. Assuming it
> > runs great once the manifold is replaced the following is true.
> >
> > Jeep runs bad, has exhaust manifold leak. Taken to shop to adjust fuel
> > air mix.
> > Carb diagnosed as prob and replaced. Exhaust manifold leak still
> > present.
> > No change in how jeep runs.
> > Exhaust manifold replaced. Jeep runs fine.
> >
> > Logic says that problem was not with carb but with the manifold leak.
> > Carb did not need to be replaced.
> >
> > Does this sound right?
> >
> > George
> > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > 98 Ram 1500 5.9L
> > 00 SV650
04-23-2004, 02:19 PM
#53
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Re: Borla Header installed for $800 - Reasonable? rip off?
Sure Bill.
The status of the intake gasket is in question too. As long as it has
cracked, things have shifted and they share bolts. The crack also makes
a lot of heat movement of parts.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "George J. McFadden" wrote:
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, Mike. Once this header is installed I will begin my
> > quest to get my money back for the unnecessary carb repair. I quizzed
> > them yesterday on it again - the fact that a new carb made no change to
> > the way the jeep ran - and they again said they "had" to replace it due
> > to the "bend air horn". I have the pic you sent so I plan on
> > confronting them with the "evidence".
> >
> > Logically it makes sense that the Carter carb was fine. Assuming it
> > runs great once the manifold is replaced the following is true.
> >
> > Jeep runs bad, has exhaust manifold leak. Taken to shop to adjust fuel
> > air mix.
> > Carb diagnosed as prob and replaced. Exhaust manifold leak still
> > present.
> > No change in how jeep runs.
> > Exhaust manifold replaced. Jeep runs fine.
> >
> > Logic says that problem was not with carb but with the manifold leak.
> > Carb did not need to be replaced.
> >
> > Does this sound right?
> >
> > George
> > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > 98 Ram 1500 5.9L
> > 00 SV650
The status of the intake gasket is in question too. As long as it has
cracked, things have shifted and they share bolts. The crack also makes
a lot of heat movement of parts.
Mike
"L.W.(ßill) ------ III" wrote:
>
> Nope.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> "George J. McFadden" wrote:
> >
> > Oh, and by the way, Mike. Once this header is installed I will begin my
> > quest to get my money back for the unnecessary carb repair. I quizzed
> > them yesterday on it again - the fact that a new carb made no change to
> > the way the jeep ran - and they again said they "had" to replace it due
> > to the "bend air horn". I have the pic you sent so I plan on
> > confronting them with the "evidence".
> >
> > Logically it makes sense that the Carter carb was fine. Assuming it
> > runs great once the manifold is replaced the following is true.
> >
> > Jeep runs bad, has exhaust manifold leak. Taken to shop to adjust fuel
> > air mix.
> > Carb diagnosed as prob and replaced. Exhaust manifold leak still
> > present.
> > No change in how jeep runs.
> > Exhaust manifold replaced. Jeep runs fine.
> >
> > Logic says that problem was not with carb but with the manifold leak.
> > Carb did not need to be replaced.
> >
> > Does this sound right?
> >
> > George
> > 90 Wrangler 4.2L
> > 98 Ram 1500 5.9L
> > 00 SV650
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