Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no
one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy
diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in
Europe.

A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

 

Table 2: Cost comparisons between different energy sources:
http://www.hydrographicsociety.org/A...2002/105-1.htm
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Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
> usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no
> one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy
> diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in
> Europe.
>
> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

 

Table 2: Cost comparisons between different energy sources:
http://www.hydrographicsociety.org/A...2002/105-1.htm
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Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
> usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no
> one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy
> diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in
> Europe.
>
> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

 

Table 2: Cost comparisons between different energy sources:
http://www.hydrographicsociety.org/A...2002/105-1.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
> usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no
> one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy
> diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in
> Europe.
>
> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

 

Table 2: Cost comparisons between different energy sources:
http://www.hydrographicsociety.org/A...2002/105-1.htm
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Ted Azito wrote:
>
> Powerplants are steam turbine and fired by coal or natural gas
> usually. Some are gas turbine, but they're generally natural gas-no
> one's burning bunker fuels in them. There are still a few heavy
> diesels in utility power generation in the US and quite a lot in
> Europe.
>
> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

 

larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0406231954.7c960af7@posting.google. com>...

> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

Some numbers:

The Mirant power plant on the waterfront at the north end of
Alexandria VA, currently offline for maintenance, is a 540 megawatt
affair. The entire generating capacity of Iraq is 4500 megawatts.
(Source: a recent _Washington Post_ article on the efforts to rebuild
the power grid there.)

It is widely agreed that among the finest steam locomotives built in
the US, one would have to include the New York Central Niagaras, large
high-speed 4-8-4s built by the American Locomotive Company of
Schenectady, New York. They were numbered in the 6000s as a reflection
of their boiler horsepower. One hp = 746 watts or 0.75 kilowatts, so
do the math. A 100 hp car engine is 75 kilowatts. A 200 hp car engine
is 150 kilowatts. 6000 hp is 4500 kilowattts or 4.5 megawatts. (Gee, I
hope I did that right. I don't have my calculator in front of me.)

Every last one of the Niagaras was scrapped. Big loss. Big, big loss.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/northern/nyc.html

I'm actually surprised to see that their boiler pressure was only 275
psi, as the Norfolk & Western Railway at the time was running steam
locomotives with a boiler pressure of 300 psi.

 

larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0406231954.7c960af7@posting.google. com>...

> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

Some numbers:

The Mirant power plant on the waterfront at the north end of
Alexandria VA, currently offline for maintenance, is a 540 megawatt
affair. The entire generating capacity of Iraq is 4500 megawatts.
(Source: a recent _Washington Post_ article on the efforts to rebuild
the power grid there.)

It is widely agreed that among the finest steam locomotives built in
the US, one would have to include the New York Central Niagaras, large
high-speed 4-8-4s built by the American Locomotive Company of
Schenectady, New York. They were numbered in the 6000s as a reflection
of their boiler horsepower. One hp = 746 watts or 0.75 kilowatts, so
do the math. A 100 hp car engine is 75 kilowatts. A 200 hp car engine
is 150 kilowatts. 6000 hp is 4500 kilowattts or 4.5 megawatts. (Gee, I
hope I did that right. I don't have my calculator in front of me.)

Every last one of the Niagaras was scrapped. Big loss. Big, big loss.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/northern/nyc.html

I'm actually surprised to see that their boiler pressure was only 275
psi, as the Norfolk & Western Railway at the time was running steam
locomotives with a boiler pressure of 300 psi.

 

larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0406231954.7c960af7@posting.google. com>...

> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

Some numbers:

The Mirant power plant on the waterfront at the north end of
Alexandria VA, currently offline for maintenance, is a 540 megawatt
affair. The entire generating capacity of Iraq is 4500 megawatts.
(Source: a recent _Washington Post_ article on the efforts to rebuild
the power grid there.)

It is widely agreed that among the finest steam locomotives built in
the US, one would have to include the New York Central Niagaras, large
high-speed 4-8-4s built by the American Locomotive Company of
Schenectady, New York. They were numbered in the 6000s as a reflection
of their boiler horsepower. One hp = 746 watts or 0.75 kilowatts, so
do the math. A 100 hp car engine is 75 kilowatts. A 200 hp car engine
is 150 kilowatts. 6000 hp is 4500 kilowattts or 4.5 megawatts. (Gee, I
hope I did that right. I don't have my calculator in front of me.)

Every last one of the Niagaras was scrapped. Big loss. Big, big loss.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/northern/nyc.html

I'm actually surprised to see that their boiler pressure was only 275
psi, as the Norfolk & Western Railway at the time was running steam
locomotives with a boiler pressure of 300 psi.

 

larboard34@hotmail.com (Ted Azito) wrote in message news:<b53da461.0406231954.7c960af7@posting.google. com>...

> A utility generation plant is a very different proposition than a
> rail locomotive-a loco is small stuff.

Some numbers:

The Mirant power plant on the waterfront at the north end of
Alexandria VA, currently offline for maintenance, is a 540 megawatt
affair. The entire generating capacity of Iraq is 4500 megawatts.
(Source: a recent _Washington Post_ article on the efforts to rebuild
the power grid there.)

It is widely agreed that among the finest steam locomotives built in
the US, one would have to include the New York Central Niagaras, large
high-speed 4-8-4s built by the American Locomotive Company of
Schenectady, New York. They were numbered in the 6000s as a reflection
of their boiler horsepower. One hp = 746 watts or 0.75 kilowatts, so
do the math. A 100 hp car engine is 75 kilowatts. A 200 hp car engine
is 150 kilowatts. 6000 hp is 4500 kilowattts or 4.5 megawatts. (Gee, I
hope I did that right. I don't have my calculator in front of me.)

Every last one of the Niagaras was scrapped. Big loss. Big, big loss.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/northern/nyc.html

I'm actually surprised to see that their boiler pressure was only 275
psi, as the Norfolk & Western Railway at the time was running steam
locomotives with a boiler pressure of 300 psi.