Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
07-04-2004, 05:56 AM
#101
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Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
Cross posting is a real bummer. I really wish ISPs would run 2 newsgroup
servers - one where they filter out any message which is posted to more than
1 group, and the normal one, so that you can choose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E78BC0.6D5EBA1F@***.net...
> Where I nail these trolls is they always cross-post, that's a
> violation that's pretty constant through the UseNet, the one that
> usually I gain another notch on my mouse by having Internet Service
> Provider close that account.
> Seeing you seem to be too lazy to pop the URL I'll paste it for
> you:
> "Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to
> Usenet
> but not vise versa."
> Now do you feel lucky?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> bllsht wrote:
> >
> > I see as many posts by Bill about diesel. I think you're all about
who's
> > "allowed" to post as much as actual content. That is unless they don't
agree
> > with you, then the whining really starts.
> >
> > I've seen the charter, and I don't recall where it says "Mike Romain
shall
> > determine who posts, and what posts may contain." If I missed it,
please point
> > that out.
> >
> > Newsgroups are for discussions. That looked like a discussion to me.
> >
> > That's more than a little vague. What exactly is it that you're so sure
I'm
> > aware of?
servers - one where they filter out any message which is posted to more than
1 group, and the normal one, so that you can choose.
Dave Milne, Scotland
'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:40E78BC0.6D5EBA1F@***.net...
> Where I nail these trolls is they always cross-post, that's a
> violation that's pretty constant through the UseNet, the one that
> usually I gain another notch on my mouse by having Internet Service
> Provider close that account.
> Seeing you seem to be too lazy to pop the URL I'll paste it for
> you:
> "Some things that could be discussed....
>
> -Jeep/****** history
> -repairs and modifications
> -parts exchange
> -technical information
> -4x4 driving experiences
> -vehicle restoration
> -new vehicle evaluations
>
> Some things that shouldn't be discussed....
>
> -4 wheel drive vehicles made by other manufacturers
> -commercial posts
>
> The articles sent to the Jeep listserver will be cross-posted to
> Usenet
> but not vise versa."
> Now do you feel lucky?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> bllsht wrote:
> >
> > I see as many posts by Bill about diesel. I think you're all about
who's
> > "allowed" to post as much as actual content. That is unless they don't
agree
> > with you, then the whining really starts.
> >
> > I've seen the charter, and I don't recall where it says "Mike Romain
shall
> > determine who posts, and what posts may contain." If I missed it,
please point
> > that out.
> >
> > Newsgroups are for discussions. That looked like a discussion to me.
> >
> > That's more than a little vague. What exactly is it that you're so sure
I'm
> > aware of?
07-04-2004, 11:26 AM
#102
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Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
>Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
07-04-2004, 11:26 AM
#103
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Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
>Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
07-04-2004, 11:26 AM
#104
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Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
>Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
07-04-2004, 11:26 AM
#105
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Posts: n/a
Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
>Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
>also frowned on by ISP's.
*Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
to sign up?
After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
that..
07-04-2004, 11:57 AM
#106
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Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
Have you read the agreement 'you' signed with Shaw?
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
07-04-2004, 11:57 AM
#107
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
Have you read the agreement 'you' signed with Shaw?
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
07-04-2004, 11:57 AM
#108
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
Have you read the agreement 'you' signed with Shaw?
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
07-04-2004, 11:57 AM
#109
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
Have you read the agreement 'you' signed with Shaw?
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
Here is one part of it:
Messages posted to newsgroups must comply with the written charters or
Frequently Asked Questions (“FAQ’s”) for those newsgroups.
Found at http://secure.shaw.ca/
Do you want to see if they 'really' mean it or do you think they will
ignore their own rules?
LOL!
After Shaw and Rogers got slapped with denial of service suits from all
the other internet providers a couple years back, they started taking
their rules seriously.
Mike
Jerry wrote:
>
> >Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> >also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> *Most* ISP's in most markets could really care less. Why would they?
>
> You seriously think their going to cancel someone's account because
> a few whinny little brats email them complaints about the posts one
> of their users make in a newsgroup that -- belongs to -- no one.
>
> Get real. It's not likely to happen, these companies just are not
> going to go out of their way to loose users, which leads to a loss of
> income for them, especially with how competitive the whole service
> provider industry is. Why else do so many providers offer incentives
> to sign up?
>
> After all in just the community I live, not a large one at that there
> is not one broadband provider but a half dozen all offering 1.5 to
> 5mbit connections either through cable or dsl along with several dial
> up providers.. And then there's the satellite option on top of
> that..
07-04-2004, 01:07 PM
#110
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Biodiesel Info-The Straight Poop ooIIIIIIIIIIIIoo
But usually Bill deserves it. :-)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E757A3.8EBEEF5@sympatico.ca...
> The person has declared open season on Bill as troll bait and continues
> to post diesel bull ----!
>
> Take the Charter as you want. It is simple and there.
>
> Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> 'I' know you are 'well' aware of that... LOL!
>
> Mike
>
> bllsht wrote:
> >
> > This is Mike's newsgroup and he will decide what's on topic. LOL
> >
> > In message <IDGFc.3251$Bg5.28335158@news-text.cableinet.net>, "Dave
Milne"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In general, trolling aside, I can't see how diesel discussion is off
topic
> > >given that Jeep sells diesel vehicles.
> > >
> > >Dave Milne, Scotland
> > >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> > >"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >news:40E6CB6C.26518469@sympatico.ca...
> > >> Enough trolling!
> > >>
> > >> Newsgroup Charter time!
> > >>
> > >> This newsgroup actually does have a Charter and all your off topic
posts
> > >> on diesel are not welcomed here.
> > >>
> > >> Especially seeing as it is pure troll bait.
> > >>
> > >> Our Charter can be found here:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc....makers.jeep+w
illys
> > >>
> > >> Servers like hotmail take newsgroup charter violations seriously.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Ted Azito wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> <snip troll>
> > >
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:40E757A3.8EBEEF5@sympatico.ca...
> The person has declared open season on Bill as troll bait and continues
> to post diesel bull ----!
>
> Take the Charter as you want. It is simple and there.
>
> Posting BS to disrupt a newsgroup or to attack one person with bait is
> also frowned on by ISP's.
>
> 'I' know you are 'well' aware of that... LOL!
>
> Mike
>
> bllsht wrote:
> >
> > This is Mike's newsgroup and he will decide what's on topic. LOL
> >
> > In message <IDGFc.3251$Bg5.28335158@news-text.cableinet.net>, "Dave
Milne"
> > wrote:
> >
> > >In general, trolling aside, I can't see how diesel discussion is off
topic
> > >given that Jeep sells diesel vehicles.
> > >
> > >Dave Milne, Scotland
> > >'91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ
> > >
> > >
> > >"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > >news:40E6CB6C.26518469@sympatico.ca...
> > >> Enough trolling!
> > >>
> > >> Newsgroup Charter time!
> > >>
> > >> This newsgroup actually does have a Charter and all your off topic
posts
> > >> on diesel are not welcomed here.
> > >>
> > >> Especially seeing as it is pure troll bait.
> > >>
> > >> Our Charter can be found here:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
>ftp://ftp.uu.net/usenet/news.announc....makers.jeep+w
illys
> > >>
> > >> Servers like hotmail take newsgroup charter violations seriously.
> > >>
> > >> Mike
> > >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >>
> > >> Ted Azito wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> <snip troll>
> > >