BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
LOL!
Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
XD9000i winch on front.
I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
'really' well!
I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's are
> > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they work
> > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or off,
> > > the MTs are much better.
> > >
> > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard that
> > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with BFG
> > > ATs.
> > >
> > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and fish
> > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has often
> > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you can
> > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to rotate
> > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
> towing a
> > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
> performace
> > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's,
> so I
> > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
> this
> > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
> AT's gave
> > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
> sticky
> > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> also say
> > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
> that
> > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > >
> > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> "raw" snow?
> > > > Deep snow?
> > > >
> > > > -jeff
Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
XD9000i winch on front.
I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
'really' well!
I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's are
> > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they work
> > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or off,
> > > the MTs are much better.
> > >
> > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard that
> > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with BFG
> > > ATs.
> > >
> > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and fish
> > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has often
> > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you can
> > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to rotate
> > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
> towing a
> > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
> performace
> > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's,
> so I
> > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
> this
> > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
> AT's gave
> > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
> sticky
> > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> also say
> > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
> that
> > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > >
> > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> "raw" snow?
> > > > Deep snow?
> > > >
> > > > -jeff
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
LOL!
Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
XD9000i winch on front.
I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
'really' well!
I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's are
> > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they work
> > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or off,
> > > the MTs are much better.
> > >
> > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard that
> > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with BFG
> > > ATs.
> > >
> > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and fish
> > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has often
> > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you can
> > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to rotate
> > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
> towing a
> > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
> performace
> > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's,
> so I
> > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
> this
> > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
> AT's gave
> > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
> sticky
> > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> also say
> > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
> that
> > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > >
> > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> "raw" snow?
> > > > Deep snow?
> > > >
> > > > -jeff
Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
XD9000i winch on front.
I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
'really' well!
I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's are
> > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they work
> > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or off,
> > > the MTs are much better.
> > >
> > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard that
> > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with BFG
> > > ATs.
> > >
> > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and fish
> > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has often
> > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you can
> > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to rotate
> > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
> towing a
> > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
> performace
> > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's,
> so I
> > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
> this
> > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
> AT's gave
> > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
> sticky
> > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> also say
> > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
> that
> > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > >
> > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> "raw" snow?
> > > > Deep snow?
> > > >
> > > > -jeff
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
LOL!
Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
XD9000i winch on front.
I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
'really' well!
I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's are
> > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they work
> > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or off,
> > > the MTs are much better.
> > >
> > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard that
> > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with BFG
> > > ATs.
> > >
> > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and fish
> > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has often
> > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you can
> > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to rotate
> > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
> towing a
> > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
> performace
> > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's,
> so I
> > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
> this
> > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
> AT's gave
> > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
> sticky
> > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> also say
> > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
> that
> > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > >
> > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> "raw" snow?
> > > > Deep snow?
> > > >
> > > > -jeff
Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
XD9000i winch on front.
I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
'really' well!
I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
SB wrote:
>
> So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > Steve wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Jeff,
> > >
> > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's are
> > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they work
> > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or off,
> > > the MTs are much better.
> > >
> > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard that
> > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with BFG
> > > ATs.
> > >
> > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and fish
> > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has often
> > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you can
> > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to rotate
> > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
> towing a
> > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
> performace
> > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's,
> so I
> > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
> this
> > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
> AT's gave
> > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
> sticky
> > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> also say
> > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
> that
> > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > >
> > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> "raw" snow?
> > > > Deep snow?
> > > >
> > > > -jeff
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right to
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right to
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right to
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right to
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
your axles?
Sorta like going snowshoeing on ice skates....??
How wide are stock '02 TJ rims? 10.5??
Ok so....throw it at me.....benefits of narrow tires as opposed to
fatties...
And wall size was something someone brought up once (which would go with rim
size no?)
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4084530B.900E4451@sympatico.ca...
> LOL!
>
> Yup, but I have to swap Jeeps too....
>
> Around here, give me my tall skinny muds on my CJ7 over the AT's on my
> Cherokee in any winter driving. On or off road!
>
> During the ice storm last year I followed around my Boss in his service
> truck to make sure we could get to the job site or out of it. I have an
> XD9000i winch on front.
>
> I have 33x9.5 muds with a 7.5" wide tread on the road and they grab
> 'really' well!
>
> I keep tearing up engine mounts and exploding hubs and cracking frames
> because they just don't spin so things twist and torque up...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> SB wrote:
> >
> > So do you cycle between the two based on the season or the trip?
> >
> > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > news:40842853.24B70B20@sympatico.ca...
> > > I have both BFG AT's and Muds and I agree with Steve.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I drove 33x10.50 BFG MTs on my XJ all winter with no problem. MT's
are
> > > > not as good as AT's at high speed on snow packed roads, but they
work
> > > > just fine if you drive accordingly. In deep raw snow, on road or
off,
> > > > the MTs are much better.
> > > >
> > > > In February I was driving around on unplowed roads in a blizzard
that
> > > > eventually accumulated 95 cm (three feet). That morning I rescued a
> > > > Grand Cherokee and a Ford Ranger. Both were spinning helplessly with
BFG
> > > > ATs.
> > > >
> > > > I too choose to avoid mud if at all possible, but where I hunt and
fish
> > > > it sometimes must be faced. For me, having MTs instead of ATs has
often
> > > > made the difference between staying mobile and getting stuck. If you
can
> > > > put up with a slight increase in road noise and you're willing to
rotate
> > > > frequently, do your Jeep a favor and get the MTs.
> > > >
> > > > Steve
> > > >
> > > > Steve Handywired wrote:
> > > > > My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year,
including
> > towing a
> > > > > trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with
their
> > performace
> > > > > on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least
31's,
> > so I
> > > > > need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go
MT
> > this
> > > > > time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that
my
> > AT's gave
> > > > > me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying
deep
> > sticky
> > > > > mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me
> > also say
> > > > > that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails
for
> > that
> > > > > matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> > > > >
> > > > > Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about
> > "raw" snow?
> > > > > Deep snow?
> > > > >
> > > > > -jeff
Guest
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
You kinda fiqured it out on your own. Fattie tires will float on top of the
snow, where skinny tall tires will cut through the snow down to where there
is traction. Same goes for mud and sand.
Nick
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fn_gc.41595$9kJ.3964@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> 7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right
to
> your axles?
snow, where skinny tall tires will cut through the snow down to where there
is traction. Same goes for mud and sand.
Nick
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> 7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right
to
> your axles?
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
You kinda fiqured it out on your own. Fattie tires will float on top of the
snow, where skinny tall tires will cut through the snow down to where there
is traction. Same goes for mud and sand.
Nick
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fn_gc.41595$9kJ.3964@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> 7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right
to
> your axles?
snow, where skinny tall tires will cut through the snow down to where there
is traction. Same goes for mud and sand.
Nick
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fn_gc.41595$9kJ.3964@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> 7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right
to
> your axles?
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
You kinda fiqured it out on your own. Fattie tires will float on top of the
snow, where skinny tall tires will cut through the snow down to where there
is traction. Same goes for mud and sand.
Nick
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fn_gc.41595$9kJ.3964@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> 7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right
to
> your axles?
snow, where skinny tall tires will cut through the snow down to where there
is traction. Same goes for mud and sand.
Nick
"SB" <chicbearsmook@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fn_gc.41595$9kJ.3964@news04.bloor.is.net.cabl e.rogers.com...
> 7.5 seems awefully narrow. Wouldn't you drop through the snow/mud right
to
> your axles?
