BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
On 18 Apr 2004 07:05:24 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
>Deep snow?
A/Ts are better on packed snow and ice. MT/Rs are better in really
deep fresh snow. You can sipe the MT/Rs and gain a little braking
power on ice, but it will not help your directional control any. I
found my siped MT/Rs to be scary in real world winter conditions
(commuting).
My solution is MT/Rs in summer, Dedicated snow tires in winter
(Yokohama Geolander I/T+). It is a _very_ satisfactory arrangement,
except for those in-between times when the snow melts and I want to do
a little trail stuff on those winter tires. Then it's hopeless...
Thank God for lockers ;)
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
>Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
>Deep snow?
A/Ts are better on packed snow and ice. MT/Rs are better in really
deep fresh snow. You can sipe the MT/Rs and gain a little braking
power on ice, but it will not help your directional control any. I
found my siped MT/Rs to be scary in real world winter conditions
(commuting).
My solution is MT/Rs in summer, Dedicated snow tires in winter
(Yokohama Geolander I/T+). It is a _very_ satisfactory arrangement,
except for those in-between times when the snow melts and I want to do
a little trail stuff on those winter tires. Then it's hopeless...
Thank God for lockers ;)
John Davies
http://home.comcast.net/~johnedavies/
'96 Lexus LX450
'00 Audi A4 1.8T quattro
Spokane WA USA
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
Except, I do use the frog tires. I like hearing the stereo and
getting fifty thousand miles.
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Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
getting fifty thousand miles.
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Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
Except, I do use the frog tires. I like hearing the stereo and
getting fifty thousand miles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
getting fifty thousand miles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
Except, I do use the frog tires. I like hearing the stereo and
getting fifty thousand miles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
getting fifty thousand miles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
Except, I do use the frog tires. I like hearing the stereo and
getting fifty thousand miles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
getting fifty thousand miles.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Jerry Newton wrote:
>
> I am with Bill on this particular recommendation: to hell with Goodrich,
> buy American.
>
> Jerry
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
AT's are better for packed snow, ice, rain slicked roads, and are
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
AT's are better for packed snow, ice, rain slicked roads, and are
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
AT's are better for packed snow, ice, rain slicked roads, and are
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
AT's are better for packed snow, ice, rain slicked roads, and are
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
generally quieter for highway use.
MT's are good for fresh snow, heavy mud, and general trail use.
The don't know which direction is forward on packed or icy roads.
Goodrich AT/KO's are a very good compromise but still not as good
as a dedicated tire. They will clog in deep mud, run noisier
thatn most other AT's.
Ya pay your money, ya get your choice.
Handywired wrote:
> My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including towing a
> trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their performace
> on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so I
> need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT this
> time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my AT's gave
> me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep sticky
> mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also say
> that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for that
> matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
>
> Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw" snow?
> Deep snow?
>
> -jeff
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Re: BFG AT's or MT's better in snow?
I was doing a trail once about 8 inches of fresh snow with my AT's. They
packed so badly, I could barely get my jeep to move. A freakin Geo tracker
blew by me and he flipped me off.
Nick
"hankfox" <hankfox@comcast.unnecessary.net> wrote in message
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> Jeff, I run 31x10.5's and have absolutely no qualms about my BFG
> AT/KO's . I took into account the fact that the TJ is also my everyday
> transportation, and was concerned about added highway noise and the
> potential for lower tread life. I think I decided on the AT's since I
> didn't need any of the additional strengths of the MT.
>
>
> On 18 Apr 2004 07:05:24 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>
> >My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
towing a
> >trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
performace
> >on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so
I
> >need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
this
> >time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
AT's gave
> >me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
sticky
> >mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also
say
> >that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
that
> >matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> >
> >Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw"
snow?
> >Deep snow?
> >
> >-jeff
>
packed so badly, I could barely get my jeep to move. A freakin Geo tracker
blew by me and he flipped me off.
Nick
"hankfox" <hankfox@comcast.unnecessary.net> wrote in message
news:1e3580d4o6nhjimr2m5lju440gct8c3fn8@4ax.com...
> Jeff, I run 31x10.5's and have absolutely no qualms about my BFG
> AT/KO's . I took into account the fact that the TJ is also my everyday
> transportation, and was concerned about added highway noise and the
> potential for lower tread life. I think I decided on the AT's since I
> didn't need any of the additional strengths of the MT.
>
>
> On 18 Apr 2004 07:05:24 GMT, handywired@aol.com (Handywired) wrote:
>
> >My AT's, on my TJ, handled snowy elk camp great last year, including
towing a
> >trailer back OUT on icy snow-packed roads. I was pleased with their
performace
> >on snow. However, I regeared to 4.10 and want to go to at least 31's, so
I
> >need to buy tires, and so I am trying to figure out if I should go MT
this
> >time, or AT again. There were times, here in western Oregon, that my
AT's gave
> >me pause. These would have been the times I contemplated trying deep
sticky
> >mud. MT's would be much better for that, I am told, though let me also
say
> >that I am not a fan of mud and what it does to vehicles (or trails for
that
> >matter), so any serious mud use would be mostly out of neccesity.
> >
> >Are MT's at least as good at AT's on snow packed roads? How about "raw"
snow?
> >Deep snow?
> >
> >-jeff
>