twaldron

Today, I personally own three street motorcycles. I've been riding since
1977 and when I hear stories like this, I question my sanity. Thanks for
doing everything you could for this guy. I'm sure his son will remember
it for an eternity.

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone that was there
> was just staring at his bloody face. His son was in a panic. I could
> feel a heart beat. someone had a one way breather mask so I gave him
> a breath. Blood and vomit went everywhere. His face through his
> mouth and nose were just pouring blood and other matter. After a
> long time of CPR, we just got no where (his heart stopped within a
> few minutes). It is so frustrating to feel someone die right in
> front of you and not be able to do anything. Mercy Air came, but it
> wasnt of any use. All of you guys, wear seatbelts, wear helmets if
> you must ride and remember. It can happen to anyone. I have no
> freaking idea how he got such a devastating head injury through this
> full face helmet. Im an adrenaline junky myself, but we are all just
> here a little while so be careful. Apparently the guy just lost it
> in a corner at 35mph. I'm getting a little sick of people around me
> dying. Thanks for letting me vent. Also apparently there was another
> two people who died on cole grade road today on motorcycles and the
> paramedics said this was their third time doing cpr this week.
> KH

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tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Today, I personally own three street motorcycles. I've been riding since
1977 and when I hear stories like this, I question my sanity. Thanks for
doing everything you could for this guy. I'm sure his son will remember
it for an eternity.

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone that was there
> was just staring at his bloody face. His son was in a panic. I could
> feel a heart beat. someone had a one way breather mask so I gave him
> a breath. Blood and vomit went everywhere. His face through his
> mouth and nose were just pouring blood and other matter. After a
> long time of CPR, we just got no where (his heart stopped within a
> few minutes). It is so frustrating to feel someone die right in
> front of you and not be able to do anything. Mercy Air came, but it
> wasnt of any use. All of you guys, wear seatbelts, wear helmets if
> you must ride and remember. It can happen to anyone. I have no
> freaking idea how he got such a devastating head injury through this
> full face helmet. Im an adrenaline junky myself, but we are all just
> here a little while so be careful. Apparently the guy just lost it
> in a corner at 35mph. I'm getting a little sick of people around me
> dying. Thanks for letting me vent. Also apparently there was another
> two people who died on cole grade road today on motorcycles and the
> paramedics said this was their third time doing cpr this week.
> KH

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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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twaldron

Today, I personally own three street motorcycles. I've been riding since
1977 and when I hear stories like this, I question my sanity. Thanks for
doing everything you could for this guy. I'm sure his son will remember
it for an eternity.

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone that was there
> was just staring at his bloody face. His son was in a panic. I could
> feel a heart beat. someone had a one way breather mask so I gave him
> a breath. Blood and vomit went everywhere. His face through his
> mouth and nose were just pouring blood and other matter. After a
> long time of CPR, we just got no where (his heart stopped within a
> few minutes). It is so frustrating to feel someone die right in
> front of you and not be able to do anything. Mercy Air came, but it
> wasnt of any use. All of you guys, wear seatbelts, wear helmets if
> you must ride and remember. It can happen to anyone. I have no
> freaking idea how he got such a devastating head injury through this
> full face helmet. Im an adrenaline junky myself, but we are all just
> here a little while so be careful. Apparently the guy just lost it
> in a corner at 35mph. I'm getting a little sick of people around me
> dying. Thanks for letting me vent. Also apparently there was another
> two people who died on cole grade road today on motorcycles and the
> paramedics said this was their third time doing cpr this week.
> KH

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__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

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__________________________________________________ _________

Retiredff

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone

Even for people who are 'used' to this kind of thing, it can be tough. Take
solace in the fact that you did what you could.

For those who may come upon something similar, please try to remember this-
NEVER try to remove someones helmet. If the patient has a neck injury, just
the effort it takes to remove a helmet can cause further injury, sometimes
to the point of death.

Kevin, in your case the patients breathing was impaired, and the son removed
the helmet. The correct way would have been for someone to hold the
head(helmet)/shoulder area to prevent movment, then roll the patient onto
their side, allowing fluids to be drained out of the mouth. It would take at
least two people to do it, and every situation is different, but it could be
the difference between life and death.

Retiredff

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone

Even for people who are 'used' to this kind of thing, it can be tough. Take
solace in the fact that you did what you could.

For those who may come upon something similar, please try to remember this-
NEVER try to remove someones helmet. If the patient has a neck injury, just
the effort it takes to remove a helmet can cause further injury, sometimes
to the point of death.

Kevin, in your case the patients breathing was impaired, and the son removed
the helmet. The correct way would have been for someone to hold the
head(helmet)/shoulder area to prevent movment, then roll the patient onto
their side, allowing fluids to be drained out of the mouth. It would take at
least two people to do it, and every situation is different, but it could be
the difference between life and death.

Retiredff

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone

Even for people who are 'used' to this kind of thing, it can be tough. Take
solace in the fact that you did what you could.

For those who may come upon something similar, please try to remember this-
NEVER try to remove someones helmet. If the patient has a neck injury, just
the effort it takes to remove a helmet can cause further injury, sometimes
to the point of death.

Kevin, in your case the patients breathing was impaired, and the son removed
the helmet. The correct way would have been for someone to hold the
head(helmet)/shoulder area to prevent movment, then roll the patient onto
their side, allowing fluids to be drained out of the mouth. It would take at
least two people to do it, and every situation is different, but it could be
the difference between life and death.

Retiredff

Kevin in San Diego wrote:
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone

Even for people who are 'used' to this kind of thing, it can be tough. Take
solace in the fact that you did what you could.

For those who may come upon something similar, please try to remember this-
NEVER try to remove someones helmet. If the patient has a neck injury, just
the effort it takes to remove a helmet can cause further injury, sometimes
to the point of death.

Kevin, in your case the patients breathing was impaired, and the son removed
the helmet. The correct way would have been for someone to hold the
head(helmet)/shoulder area to prevent movment, then roll the patient onto
their side, allowing fluids to be drained out of the mouth. It would take at
least two people to do it, and every situation is different, but it could be
the difference between life and death.

serg

damn....i'm sorry you had to go through that-you're a hero in my book...

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoospam.com> wrote in message
news:rojlc.23975$6L3.831@fed1read05...
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone that was there
> was just staring at his bloody face. His son was in a panic. I could
> feel a heart beat. someone had a one way breather mask so I gave him
> a breath. Blood and vomit went everywhere. His face through his
> mouth and nose were just pouring blood and other matter. After a
> long time of CPR, we just got no where (his heart stopped within a
> few minutes). It is so frustrating to feel someone die right in
> front of you and not be able to do anything. Mercy Air came, but it
> wasnt of any use. All of you guys, wear seatbelts, wear helmets if
> you must ride and remember. It can happen to anyone. I have no
> freaking idea how he got such a devastating head injury through this
> full face helmet. Im an adrenaline junky myself, but we are all just
> here a little while so be careful. Apparently the guy just lost it
> in a corner at 35mph. I'm getting a little sick of people around me
> dying. Thanks for letting me vent. Also apparently there was another
> two people who died on cole grade road today on motorcycles and the
> paramedics said this was their third time doing cpr this week.
> KH
>
>

serg

damn....i'm sorry you had to go through that-you're a hero in my book...

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoospam.com> wrote in message
news:rojlc.23975$6L3.831@fed1read05...
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone that was there
> was just staring at his bloody face. His son was in a panic. I could
> feel a heart beat. someone had a one way breather mask so I gave him
> a breath. Blood and vomit went everywhere. His face through his
> mouth and nose were just pouring blood and other matter. After a
> long time of CPR, we just got no where (his heart stopped within a
> few minutes). It is so frustrating to feel someone die right in
> front of you and not be able to do anything. Mercy Air came, but it
> wasnt of any use. All of you guys, wear seatbelts, wear helmets if
> you must ride and remember. It can happen to anyone. I have no
> freaking idea how he got such a devastating head injury through this
> full face helmet. Im an adrenaline junky myself, but we are all just
> here a little while so be careful. Apparently the guy just lost it
> in a corner at 35mph. I'm getting a little sick of people around me
> dying. Thanks for letting me vent. Also apparently there was another
> two people who died on cole grade road today on motorcycles and the
> paramedics said this was their third time doing cpr this week.
> KH
>
>

serg

damn....i'm sorry you had to go through that-you're a hero in my book...

"Kevin in San Diego" <kevin_hedstrom@yahoospam.com> wrote in message
news:rojlc.23975$6L3.831@fed1read05...
> I was on my way back from Julian this afternoon when I guy about a
> mile ahead of me took a spill on a motorcycle in a corner. Being the
> first one on the scene besides his son who was riding with him and
> another biker who crashed as well, I attempted to be helpful. His
> poor son was trying to get his mouth open and some air in through
> all the blood and mess of his face. He had a full face helmet on and
> it was a deseperate situation. I felt a heart beat but he wasnt
> breathing. His son removed the helmet and everyone that was there
> was just staring at his bloody face. His son was in a panic. I could
> feel a heart beat. someone had a one way breather mask so I gave him
> a breath. Blood and vomit went everywhere. His face through his
> mouth and nose were just pouring blood and other matter. After a
> long time of CPR, we just got no where (his heart stopped within a
> few minutes). It is so frustrating to feel someone die right in
> front of you and not be able to do anything. Mercy Air came, but it
> wasnt of any use. All of you guys, wear seatbelts, wear helmets if
> you must ride and remember. It can happen to anyone. I have no
> freaking idea how he got such a devastating head injury through this
> full face helmet. Im an adrenaline junky myself, but we are all just
> here a little while so be careful. Apparently the guy just lost it
> in a corner at 35mph. I'm getting a little sick of people around me
> dying. Thanks for letting me vent. Also apparently there was another
> two people who died on cole grade road today on motorcycles and the
> paramedics said this was their third time doing cpr this week.
> KH
>
>