Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
04-20-2006, 10:37 AM
#41
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dbUw1CilEsXx@anon.none.net>,
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brass has one over-riding advantage to me: a propane or map gas torch
> plus a roll of solder will fix just about any problems it develops
> short of complete rot-out. That includes most pinhole leaks from
> rocks and gravel as well as mesquite thorns.
Mesquite thorns. Brass.
I think the group is helping!
Thanks, great point. No pun.
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"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brass has one over-riding advantage to me: a propane or map gas torch
> plus a roll of solder will fix just about any problems it develops
> short of complete rot-out. That includes most pinhole leaks from
> rocks and gravel as well as mesquite thorns.
Mesquite thorns. Brass.
I think the group is helping!
Thanks, great point. No pun.
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04-20-2006, 10:37 AM
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dbUw1CilEsXx@anon.none.net>,
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brass has one over-riding advantage to me: a propane or map gas torch
> plus a roll of solder will fix just about any problems it develops
> short of complete rot-out. That includes most pinhole leaks from
> rocks and gravel as well as mesquite thorns.
Mesquite thorns. Brass.
I think the group is helping!
Thanks, great point. No pun.
--
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"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brass has one over-riding advantage to me: a propane or map gas torch
> plus a roll of solder will fix just about any problems it develops
> short of complete rot-out. That includes most pinhole leaks from
> rocks and gravel as well as mesquite thorns.
Mesquite thorns. Brass.
I think the group is helping!
Thanks, great point. No pun.
--
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04-20-2006, 10:37 AM
#43
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <JxX2tWiP5BNp-pn2-dbUw1CilEsXx@anon.none.net>,
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brass has one over-riding advantage to me: a propane or map gas torch
> plus a roll of solder will fix just about any problems it develops
> short of complete rot-out. That includes most pinhole leaks from
> rocks and gravel as well as mesquite thorns.
Mesquite thorns. Brass.
I think the group is helping!
Thanks, great point. No pun.
--
Member AAAAAAAA
American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.
"Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brass has one over-riding advantage to me: a propane or map gas torch
> plus a roll of solder will fix just about any problems it develops
> short of complete rot-out. That includes most pinhole leaks from
> rocks and gravel as well as mesquite thorns.
Mesquite thorns. Brass.
I think the group is helping!
Thanks, great point. No pun.
--
Member AAAAAAAA
American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.
04-20-2006, 10:39 AM
#44
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <44478EC4.70B60F4@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I have 2 different fans here, but they make a pile more. The fans have
> different lengths on their shafts.
>
> The 7 blade 'emissions' fan I have comes with a clutch. It's shaft
> measures 1.5" and from the front of the clutch to the waterpump it
> measures 3 1/4" in total.
>
> I 'use' an 'old fashioned' 4 blade fan with no clutch off a 70's
> engine. It's total depth is 1 1/4" from the front of it to the water
> pump. That leaves tons of room for an extra core.
>
> However now that you mention it so I just went and measured it, I would
> 'not' be able to use the clutch fan if I went 3 core. It would hit.
>
> Mike
Yeah, and I have an extention on my pulley to clear for an MPFI
component (IIRC).
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I have 2 different fans here, but they make a pile more. The fans have
> different lengths on their shafts.
>
> The 7 blade 'emissions' fan I have comes with a clutch. It's shaft
> measures 1.5" and from the front of the clutch to the waterpump it
> measures 3 1/4" in total.
>
> I 'use' an 'old fashioned' 4 blade fan with no clutch off a 70's
> engine. It's total depth is 1 1/4" from the front of it to the water
> pump. That leaves tons of room for an extra core.
>
> However now that you mention it so I just went and measured it, I would
> 'not' be able to use the clutch fan if I went 3 core. It would hit.
>
> Mike
Yeah, and I have an extention on my pulley to clear for an MPFI
component (IIRC).
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04-20-2006, 10:39 AM
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <44478EC4.70B60F4@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I have 2 different fans here, but they make a pile more. The fans have
> different lengths on their shafts.
>
> The 7 blade 'emissions' fan I have comes with a clutch. It's shaft
> measures 1.5" and from the front of the clutch to the waterpump it
> measures 3 1/4" in total.
>
> I 'use' an 'old fashioned' 4 blade fan with no clutch off a 70's
> engine. It's total depth is 1 1/4" from the front of it to the water
> pump. That leaves tons of room for an extra core.
>
> However now that you mention it so I just went and measured it, I would
> 'not' be able to use the clutch fan if I went 3 core. It would hit.
>
> Mike
Yeah, and I have an extention on my pulley to clear for an MPFI
component (IIRC).
--
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I have 2 different fans here, but they make a pile more. The fans have
> different lengths on their shafts.
>
> The 7 blade 'emissions' fan I have comes with a clutch. It's shaft
> measures 1.5" and from the front of the clutch to the waterpump it
> measures 3 1/4" in total.
>
> I 'use' an 'old fashioned' 4 blade fan with no clutch off a 70's
> engine. It's total depth is 1 1/4" from the front of it to the water
> pump. That leaves tons of room for an extra core.
>
> However now that you mention it so I just went and measured it, I would
> 'not' be able to use the clutch fan if I went 3 core. It would hit.
>
> Mike
Yeah, and I have an extention on my pulley to clear for an MPFI
component (IIRC).
--
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04-20-2006, 10:39 AM
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <44478EC4.70B60F4@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I have 2 different fans here, but they make a pile more. The fans have
> different lengths on their shafts.
>
> The 7 blade 'emissions' fan I have comes with a clutch. It's shaft
> measures 1.5" and from the front of the clutch to the waterpump it
> measures 3 1/4" in total.
>
> I 'use' an 'old fashioned' 4 blade fan with no clutch off a 70's
> engine. It's total depth is 1 1/4" from the front of it to the water
> pump. That leaves tons of room for an extra core.
>
> However now that you mention it so I just went and measured it, I would
> 'not' be able to use the clutch fan if I went 3 core. It would hit.
>
> Mike
Yeah, and I have an extention on my pulley to clear for an MPFI
component (IIRC).
--
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I have 2 different fans here, but they make a pile more. The fans have
> different lengths on their shafts.
>
> The 7 blade 'emissions' fan I have comes with a clutch. It's shaft
> measures 1.5" and from the front of the clutch to the waterpump it
> measures 3 1/4" in total.
>
> I 'use' an 'old fashioned' 4 blade fan with no clutch off a 70's
> engine. It's total depth is 1 1/4" from the front of it to the water
> pump. That leaves tons of room for an extra core.
>
> However now that you mention it so I just went and measured it, I would
> 'not' be able to use the clutch fan if I went 3 core. It would hit.
>
> Mike
Yeah, and I have an extention on my pulley to clear for an MPFI
component (IIRC).
--
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04-20-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <4447938A.2447773A@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> got sold.
>
> My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
>
> Mike
O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
(Come on ------net!)
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> got sold.
>
> My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
>
> Mike
O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
(Come on ------net!)
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04-20-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <4447938A.2447773A@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> got sold.
>
> My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
>
> Mike
O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
(Come on ------net!)
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> got sold.
>
> My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
>
> Mike
O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
(Come on ------net!)
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04-20-2006, 10:41 AM
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
In article <4447938A.2447773A@sympatico.ca>,
Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> got sold.
>
> My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
>
> Mike
O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
(Come on ------net!)
--
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Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> got sold.
>
> My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
>
> Mike
O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
(Come on ------net!)
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04-20-2006, 11:20 AM
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Re: Back after 2 yrs. Radiator question
Just FYI, I carry a torch, tank, solder (50/50 or 60/40) and 'acid' flux
or plumbers flux in my CJ7 'kit'. Electronic solder or flux will not
work on the heavy brass. You need the strong stuff. I wouldn't want to
use the 'silver' or lead free solder either, it is too brittle in my
opinion.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <4447938A.2447773A@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> > the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> > through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> > got sold.
> >
> > My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
> >
> > Mike
>
> O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
>
> Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
> (Come on ------net!)
>
> --
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or plumbers flux in my CJ7 'kit'. Electronic solder or flux will not
work on the heavy brass. You need the strong stuff. I wouldn't want to
use the 'silver' or lead free solder either, it is too brittle in my
opinion.
Mike
Jeepers wrote:
>
> In article <4447938A.2447773A@sympatico.ca>,
> Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> > I will second that. I have done a pile of rad repairs on the trail over
> > the years including fixing a 4" hole dead center where a tree when
> > through. That holy rad was still in that vehicle years later when it
> > got sold.
> >
> > My current rad has been trail fixed a few times too.
> >
> > Mike
>
> O.K. brass it is. Today I'll visit my local radiator shop!
>
> Thanks gang! I knew it would be worth the dial-up!
> (Come on ------net!)
>
> --
> Member AAAAAAAA
> American Association Against Acronym Abuse And Also Ambiguity.
