Axle question
#11
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Re: Axle question
That is the stock configuration for a Wrangler 4 cylinder, 5 speed. I have
noticed that it actually helps me pull out of skids, because the front is
geared higher than the back. When I step on the gas, the vehicle
straightens right out. :^)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> Yes, they have to be close. I have heard of 4.10's and 4.11's in the
> front going together...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "J.Valkyrie" wrote:
> >
> > Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a
feeling
> > they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport
with
> > the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears
in
> > the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
> >
> > Thanks
noticed that it actually helps me pull out of skids, because the front is
geared higher than the back. When I step on the gas, the vehicle
straightens right out. :^)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:438BAA8A.CF2B6286@sympatico.ca...
> Yes, they have to be close. I have heard of 4.10's and 4.11's in the
> front going together...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "J.Valkyrie" wrote:
> >
> > Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a
feeling
> > they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport
with
> > the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears
in
> > the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
> >
> > Thanks
#12
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Re: Axle question
That is the stock configuration for a Wrangler 4 cylinder, 5 speed. I have
noticed that it actually helps me pull out of skids, because the front is
geared higher than the back. When I step on the gas, the vehicle
straightens right out. :^)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:438BAA8A.CF2B6286@sympatico.ca...
> Yes, they have to be close. I have heard of 4.10's and 4.11's in the
> front going together...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "J.Valkyrie" wrote:
> >
> > Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a
feeling
> > they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport
with
> > the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears
in
> > the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
> >
> > Thanks
noticed that it actually helps me pull out of skids, because the front is
geared higher than the back. When I step on the gas, the vehicle
straightens right out. :^)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:438BAA8A.CF2B6286@sympatico.ca...
> Yes, they have to be close. I have heard of 4.10's and 4.11's in the
> front going together...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "J.Valkyrie" wrote:
> >
> > Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a
feeling
> > they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport
with
> > the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears
in
> > the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
> >
> > Thanks
#13
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Re: Axle question
That is the stock configuration for a Wrangler 4 cylinder, 5 speed. I have
noticed that it actually helps me pull out of skids, because the front is
geared higher than the back. When I step on the gas, the vehicle
straightens right out. :^)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:438BAA8A.CF2B6286@sympatico.ca...
> Yes, they have to be close. I have heard of 4.10's and 4.11's in the
> front going together...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "J.Valkyrie" wrote:
> >
> > Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a
feeling
> > they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport
with
> > the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears
in
> > the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
> >
> > Thanks
noticed that it actually helps me pull out of skids, because the front is
geared higher than the back. When I step on the gas, the vehicle
straightens right out. :^)
Earle
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:438BAA8A.CF2B6286@sympatico.ca...
> Yes, they have to be close. I have heard of 4.10's and 4.11's in the
> front going together...
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Aug./05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> "J.Valkyrie" wrote:
> >
> > Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a
feeling
> > they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
> >
> > I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport
with
> > the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears
in
> > the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
> >
> > Thanks
#14
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Re: Axle question
Yes, they need to be geared the "same". The caveat is that "same" doens't
mean identical. The front willo mathematically work out to 4.11 where the
rear works out to 4.11. the difference is insignificant in this instance.
What you have to avoid is differences that are greater than the second
decimal place. Any variance in the second decimal place is okay, but I've
never seen the second place vary by more than 1 on any ratio that is
available. For example, you could put 4.11 in the front and 4.56 in the
rear, and this will cause trouble, but if you go with 4.10 for the rear,
then the front ratio will be 4.11. The ratio is arrived at by dividing the
tooth count on the ring gear by the tooth count on the pinion gear. If there
are 41 on the rear ring gear and 10 on the pinion, the ratio will be 4.1,
conversely the front ring gear will have 37 teeth and the pinion will have
9, this works out to 4.11.
"J.Valkyrie" <joeyvalkyrie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fpNif.7773$3o6.1616851@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a feeling
> they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
>
> I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport with
> the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears in
> the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
>
> Thanks
>
mean identical. The front willo mathematically work out to 4.11 where the
rear works out to 4.11. the difference is insignificant in this instance.
What you have to avoid is differences that are greater than the second
decimal place. Any variance in the second decimal place is okay, but I've
never seen the second place vary by more than 1 on any ratio that is
available. For example, you could put 4.11 in the front and 4.56 in the
rear, and this will cause trouble, but if you go with 4.10 for the rear,
then the front ratio will be 4.11. The ratio is arrived at by dividing the
tooth count on the ring gear by the tooth count on the pinion gear. If there
are 41 on the rear ring gear and 10 on the pinion, the ratio will be 4.1,
conversely the front ring gear will have 37 teeth and the pinion will have
9, this works out to 4.11.
"J.Valkyrie" <joeyvalkyrie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fpNif.7773$3o6.1616851@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a feeling
> they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
>
> I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport with
> the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears in
> the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
>
> Thanks
>
#15
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Re: Axle question
Yes, they need to be geared the "same". The caveat is that "same" doens't
mean identical. The front willo mathematically work out to 4.11 where the
rear works out to 4.11. the difference is insignificant in this instance.
What you have to avoid is differences that are greater than the second
decimal place. Any variance in the second decimal place is okay, but I've
never seen the second place vary by more than 1 on any ratio that is
available. For example, you could put 4.11 in the front and 4.56 in the
rear, and this will cause trouble, but if you go with 4.10 for the rear,
then the front ratio will be 4.11. The ratio is arrived at by dividing the
tooth count on the ring gear by the tooth count on the pinion gear. If there
are 41 on the rear ring gear and 10 on the pinion, the ratio will be 4.1,
conversely the front ring gear will have 37 teeth and the pinion will have
9, this works out to 4.11.
"J.Valkyrie" <joeyvalkyrie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fpNif.7773$3o6.1616851@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a feeling
> they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
>
> I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport with
> the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears in
> the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
>
> Thanks
>
mean identical. The front willo mathematically work out to 4.11 where the
rear works out to 4.11. the difference is insignificant in this instance.
What you have to avoid is differences that are greater than the second
decimal place. Any variance in the second decimal place is okay, but I've
never seen the second place vary by more than 1 on any ratio that is
available. For example, you could put 4.11 in the front and 4.56 in the
rear, and this will cause trouble, but if you go with 4.10 for the rear,
then the front ratio will be 4.11. The ratio is arrived at by dividing the
tooth count on the ring gear by the tooth count on the pinion gear. If there
are 41 on the rear ring gear and 10 on the pinion, the ratio will be 4.1,
conversely the front ring gear will have 37 teeth and the pinion will have
9, this works out to 4.11.
"J.Valkyrie" <joeyvalkyrie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fpNif.7773$3o6.1616851@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a feeling
> they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
>
> I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport with
> the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears in
> the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
>
> Thanks
>
#16
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Re: Axle question
Yes, they need to be geared the "same". The caveat is that "same" doens't
mean identical. The front willo mathematically work out to 4.11 where the
rear works out to 4.11. the difference is insignificant in this instance.
What you have to avoid is differences that are greater than the second
decimal place. Any variance in the second decimal place is okay, but I've
never seen the second place vary by more than 1 on any ratio that is
available. For example, you could put 4.11 in the front and 4.56 in the
rear, and this will cause trouble, but if you go with 4.10 for the rear,
then the front ratio will be 4.11. The ratio is arrived at by dividing the
tooth count on the ring gear by the tooth count on the pinion gear. If there
are 41 on the rear ring gear and 10 on the pinion, the ratio will be 4.1,
conversely the front ring gear will have 37 teeth and the pinion will have
9, this works out to 4.11.
"J.Valkyrie" <joeyvalkyrie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fpNif.7773$3o6.1616851@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a feeling
> they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
>
> I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport with
> the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears in
> the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
>
> Thanks
>
mean identical. The front willo mathematically work out to 4.11 where the
rear works out to 4.11. the difference is insignificant in this instance.
What you have to avoid is differences that are greater than the second
decimal place. Any variance in the second decimal place is okay, but I've
never seen the second place vary by more than 1 on any ratio that is
available. For example, you could put 4.11 in the front and 4.56 in the
rear, and this will cause trouble, but if you go with 4.10 for the rear,
then the front ratio will be 4.11. The ratio is arrived at by dividing the
tooth count on the ring gear by the tooth count on the pinion gear. If there
are 41 on the rear ring gear and 10 on the pinion, the ratio will be 4.1,
conversely the front ring gear will have 37 teeth and the pinion will have
9, this works out to 4.11.
"J.Valkyrie" <joeyvalkyrie@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fpNif.7773$3o6.1616851@twister.southeast.rr.c om...
> Do the front and rear axles have to be geared the same? I have a feeling
> they do, but I wanted to ask anyway before I did anything.
>
> I'm getting ready to do some major work to my jeep. It's a 2000 Sport with
> the 4.0 and dreaded D35c. I want to swap in a Ford 8.8 with 4:10 gears in
> the rear when I lift it (rubicon express 3.5 Superflex).
>
> Thanks
>
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