Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
10-12-2003, 08:26 PM
#31
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
NN 242 uses a coupler, that has forced many Cherokees into the junk
yard.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a grand
> Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I have
> the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would cost
> at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree that
> the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300, but
> is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
>
> If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy a
> flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out my
> front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a waggy
> front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side has
> the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours of
> grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even though
> it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in YJ's,
> TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally have
> never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling. Not
> to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the original
> Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
>
> D
yard.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> Hey Bill,
>
> Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a grand
> Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I have
> the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would cost
> at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree that
> the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300, but
> is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
>
> If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy a
> flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out my
> front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a waggy
> front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side has
> the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours of
> grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even though
> it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in YJ's,
> TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally have
> never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling. Not
> to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the original
> Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
>
> D
10-12-2003, 10:17 PM
#32
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F89F118.30C6EDF5@***.net...
> NN 242 uses a coupler, that has forced many Cherokees into the junk
> yard.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill,
> >
> > Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a
grand
> > Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I
have
> > the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> > into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would
cost
> > at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree
that
> > the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300,
but
> > is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
> >
> > If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy
a
> > flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out
my
> > front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a
waggy
> > front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side
has
> > the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours
of
> > grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even
though
> > it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in
YJ's,
> > TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally
have
> > never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling.
Not
> > to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the
original
> > Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
> >
> > D
or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F89F118.30C6EDF5@***.net...
> NN 242 uses a coupler, that has forced many Cherokees into the junk
> yard.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill,
> >
> > Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a
grand
> > Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I
have
> > the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> > into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would
cost
> > at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree
that
> > the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300,
but
> > is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
> >
> > If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy
a
> > flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out
my
> > front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a
waggy
> > front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side
has
> > the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours
of
> > grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even
though
> > it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in
YJ's,
> > TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally
have
> > never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling.
Not
> > to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the
original
> > Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
> >
> > D
10-12-2003, 10:17 PM
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F89F118.30C6EDF5@***.net...
> NN 242 uses a coupler, that has forced many Cherokees into the junk
> yard.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill,
> >
> > Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a
grand
> > Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I
have
> > the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> > into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would
cost
> > at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree
that
> > the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300,
but
> > is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
> >
> > If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy
a
> > flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out
my
> > front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a
waggy
> > front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side
has
> > the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours
of
> > grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even
though
> > it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in
YJ's,
> > TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally
have
> > never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling.
Not
> > to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the
original
> > Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
> >
> > D
or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F89F118.30C6EDF5@***.net...
> NN 242 uses a coupler, that has forced many Cherokees into the junk
> yard.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill,
> >
> > Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a
grand
> > Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I
have
> > the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> > into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would
cost
> > at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree
that
> > the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300,
but
> > is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
> >
> > If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy
a
> > flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out
my
> > front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a
waggy
> > front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side
has
> > the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours
of
> > grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even
though
> > it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in
YJ's,
> > TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally
have
> > never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling.
Not
> > to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the
original
> > Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
> >
> > D
10-12-2003, 10:17 PM
#34
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Posts: n/a
Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F89F118.30C6EDF5@***.net...
> NN 242 uses a coupler, that has forced many Cherokees into the junk
> yard.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill,
> >
> > Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a
grand
> > Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I
have
> > the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> > into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would
cost
> > at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree
that
> > the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300,
but
> > is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
> >
> > If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy
a
> > flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out
my
> > front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a
waggy
> > front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side
has
> > the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours
of
> > grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even
though
> > it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in
YJ's,
> > TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally
have
> > never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling.
Not
> > to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the
original
> > Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
> >
> > D
or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F89F118.30C6EDF5@***.net...
> NN 242 uses a coupler, that has forced many Cherokees into the junk
> yard.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > Hey Bill,
> >
> > Here in lies the dilemma. I currently have a front Dana 44 out of a
grand
> > Waggoner with the drop that matches the 231(currently in my jeep). I
have
> > the opportunity to put this Grand Cherokee 4.0, 42RE, and 242 as a whole
> > into my YJ at a price that is UNBELIEVABLE (less then each piece would
cost
> > at a salvage yard, and I drove the vehicle last weekend). Now, I agree
that
> > the chain driven 242 is not in the same league as the gear driven 300,
but
> > is still IMHO it is a step up from the 231.
> >
> > If I wanted to go to the 300 I would have to do one of two things; Buy
a
> > flip kit from Down East Off Road (45 minutes from my house) or swap out
my
> > front end to a 44 with the right hand drop. Having a spring over on a
waggy
> > front end requires a tremendous amount of prep. The differential side
has
> > the spring perch cast into the housing. This makes for approx. 4 hours
of
> > grinding to make room for the perch to be relocated to the top. Even
though
> > it's not gear driven, how many 231's and 242's are on the trails in
YJ's,
> > TJ's, and ZJ's? I'd just about bet it's probably 2 to 1. I personally
have
> > never witnessed a failure of a 231 in all the years I've been crawling.
Not
> > to say it has not happened, I just have not witnessed it. BYW the
original
> > Hummer also runs a version of the 242.
> >
> > D
10-12-2003, 10:33 PM
#35
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
> or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
>
> D
Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
> or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
>
> D
10-12-2003, 10:33 PM
#36
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
> or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
>
> D
Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
> or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
>
> D
10-12-2003, 10:33 PM
#37
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
> or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
>
> D
Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
D McMorris wrote:
>
> At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip kit
> or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your input.
>
> D
10-13-2003, 06:52 AM
#38
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
Isn't that what the flip kit does. When you clock it you are only turning
it up to get rid of the portion that hangs down lower your ground clearance.
The flip kit is the only way I know to get it to come out on the drivers
side.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8A0EE5.DD908E9A@***.net...
> Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
> Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip
kit
> > or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your
input.
> >
> > D
it up to get rid of the portion that hangs down lower your ground clearance.
The flip kit is the only way I know to get it to come out on the drivers
side.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8A0EE5.DD908E9A@***.net...
> Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
> Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip
kit
> > or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your
input.
> >
> > D
10-13-2003, 06:52 AM
#39
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
Isn't that what the flip kit does. When you clock it you are only turning
it up to get rid of the portion that hangs down lower your ground clearance.
The flip kit is the only way I know to get it to come out on the drivers
side.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8A0EE5.DD908E9A@***.net...
> Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
> Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip
kit
> > or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your
input.
> >
> > D
it up to get rid of the portion that hangs down lower your ground clearance.
The flip kit is the only way I know to get it to come out on the drivers
side.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8A0EE5.DD908E9A@***.net...
> Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
> Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip
kit
> > or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your
input.
> >
> > D
10-13-2003, 06:52 AM
#40
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Re: Auto vs. Manual Transmission Question
Isn't that what the flip kit does. When you clock it you are only turning
it up to get rid of the portion that hangs down lower your ground clearance.
The flip kit is the only way I know to get it to come out on the drivers
side.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8A0EE5.DD908E9A@***.net...
> Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
> Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip
kit
> > or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your
input.
> >
> > D
it up to get rid of the portion that hangs down lower your ground clearance.
The flip kit is the only way I know to get it to come out on the drivers
side.
D
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:3F8A0EE5.DD908E9A@***.net...
> Why do you think you need to change front axle, when you clock the
> Dana 300 from the CJ right side, to the YJ, TJ wrong side?
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> D McMorris wrote:
> >
> > At which time you count your loses and maybe spend the $700 for the flip
kit
> > or $500 for the new front and gear setup. As always, thanks for your
input.
> >
> > D
