Someone will buy 'Jeep' and return it to wench it came...someday.

Jerry McG wrote:

> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:hqhyc.31$NW1.18@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Don' choo blaspheme in hera!>
>
>
> I sure hope someone's left on the Jeep swb design team that can stop the
> lunacy, but a good friend works fairly high up in the DC corporate world and
> said some months ago there's a very good chance, despite all the eveidence
> that it would be a bad move, that the IFS design will win out over the more
> traditional design poposals that would keep live axles front & rear on the
> TJ replacement.
>
> We can take heart that the Rubicon was produced despite the lawyers
> concerns, and that the Unlimited somehow managed to get back just a bit of
> that old Scrambler vibe. DC brass should note that with the addition of the
> Rubicon & Unlimited, TJ sales for this year are up 41.5% May ytd vs last
> year.
>
> Unfortunately DCs' brand management ******** point out how well the Liberty
> has done vs. the old Cherokee (a no-brainer since the XJ was so long in the
> tooth by the time it was replaced). They also admit few Cherokee buyers
> traded for Libertys, and they don't know for sure where they went. A few
> upgraded to GC, but most have disappered. There's some corporate conjecture
> they've bought low mileage used Cherokees as replacements, but mosty they
> conceed they've lost them to other brands.
>
> The IFS move was a bad one for Jeep, no matter what Consumer Reports or the
> "BMW is Heaven" Automotive press thinks. The loss of the Cherokee to the
> Liberty fiasco, and the new Grand's awful styling & IFS design kinda show
> there's some bad Ju-Ju in the water at Auburn Hills.
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Someone will buy 'Jeep' and return it to wench it came...someday.

Jerry McG wrote:

> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:hqhyc.31$NW1.18@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Don' choo blaspheme in hera!>
>
>
> I sure hope someone's left on the Jeep swb design team that can stop the
> lunacy, but a good friend works fairly high up in the DC corporate world and
> said some months ago there's a very good chance, despite all the eveidence
> that it would be a bad move, that the IFS design will win out over the more
> traditional design poposals that would keep live axles front & rear on the
> TJ replacement.
>
> We can take heart that the Rubicon was produced despite the lawyers
> concerns, and that the Unlimited somehow managed to get back just a bit of
> that old Scrambler vibe. DC brass should note that with the addition of the
> Rubicon & Unlimited, TJ sales for this year are up 41.5% May ytd vs last
> year.
>
> Unfortunately DCs' brand management ******** point out how well the Liberty
> has done vs. the old Cherokee (a no-brainer since the XJ was so long in the
> tooth by the time it was replaced). They also admit few Cherokee buyers
> traded for Libertys, and they don't know for sure where they went. A few
> upgraded to GC, but most have disappered. There's some corporate conjecture
> they've bought low mileage used Cherokees as replacements, but mosty they
> conceed they've lost them to other brands.
>
> The IFS move was a bad one for Jeep, no matter what Consumer Reports or the
> "BMW is Heaven" Automotive press thinks. The loss of the Cherokee to the
> Liberty fiasco, and the new Grand's awful styling & IFS design kinda show
> there's some bad Ju-Ju in the water at Auburn Hills.
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

Someone will buy 'Jeep' and return it to wench it came...someday.

Jerry McG wrote:

> "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> news:hqhyc.31$NW1.18@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
>
>>Don' choo blaspheme in hera!>
>
>
> I sure hope someone's left on the Jeep swb design team that can stop the
> lunacy, but a good friend works fairly high up in the DC corporate world and
> said some months ago there's a very good chance, despite all the eveidence
> that it would be a bad move, that the IFS design will win out over the more
> traditional design poposals that would keep live axles front & rear on the
> TJ replacement.
>
> We can take heart that the Rubicon was produced despite the lawyers
> concerns, and that the Unlimited somehow managed to get back just a bit of
> that old Scrambler vibe. DC brass should note that with the addition of the
> Rubicon & Unlimited, TJ sales for this year are up 41.5% May ytd vs last
> year.
>
> Unfortunately DCs' brand management ******** point out how well the Liberty
> has done vs. the old Cherokee (a no-brainer since the XJ was so long in the
> tooth by the time it was replaced). They also admit few Cherokee buyers
> traded for Libertys, and they don't know for sure where they went. A few
> upgraded to GC, but most have disappered. There's some corporate conjecture
> they've bought low mileage used Cherokees as replacements, but mosty they
> conceed they've lost them to other brands.
>
> The IFS move was a bad one for Jeep, no matter what Consumer Reports or the
> "BMW is Heaven" Automotive press thinks. The loss of the Cherokee to the
> Liberty fiasco, and the new Grand's awful styling & IFS design kinda show
> there's some bad Ju-Ju in the water at Auburn Hills.
>
>

--
__________________________________________________ _________
tw

03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
01 XJ Sport

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
-- Dave Barry

Pronunciation: 'jEp
Function: noun
Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
World War II.

(Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
__________________________________________________ _________

 

You know, if a group of true Jeeperphiles, who have some sort of collective
fortune, that would be great if they'd buy the Jeep name and continue on the
great Jeep tradition and maybe add some old school models.

Maybe they could have two product lines, each with its own specific line of
models. Classic and Progressive. Classic for the old school fans and
Progressive for the newer technology folk out there, maybe some hybrid of
the two as well.

Anyway... just a dream, just a dream...


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:5koyc.114$NW1.76@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> Someone will buy 'Jeep' and return it to wench it came...someday.
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:hqhyc.31$NW1.18@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >>Don' choo blaspheme in hera!>
> >
> >
> > I sure hope someone's left on the Jeep swb design team that can stop the
> > lunacy, but a good friend works fairly high up in the DC corporate world
and
> > said some months ago there's a very good chance, despite all the
eveidence
> > that it would be a bad move, that the IFS design will win out over the
more
> > traditional design poposals that would keep live axles front & rear on
the
> > TJ replacement.
> >
> > We can take heart that the Rubicon was produced despite the lawyers
> > concerns, and that the Unlimited somehow managed to get back just a bit
of
> > that old Scrambler vibe. DC brass should note that with the addition of
the
> > Rubicon & Unlimited, TJ sales for this year are up 41.5% May ytd vs last
> > year.
> >
> > Unfortunately DCs' brand management ******** point out how well the
Liberty
> > has done vs. the old Cherokee (a no-brainer since the XJ was so long in
the
> > tooth by the time it was replaced). They also admit few Cherokee buyers
> > traded for Libertys, and they don't know for sure where they went. A few
> > upgraded to GC, but most have disappered. There's some corporate
conjecture
> > they've bought low mileage used Cherokees as replacements, but mosty
they
> > conceed they've lost them to other brands.
> >
> > The IFS move was a bad one for Jeep, no matter what Consumer Reports or
the
> > "BMW is Heaven" Automotive press thinks. The loss of the Cherokee to the
> > Liberty fiasco, and the new Grand's awful styling & IFS design kinda
show
> > there's some bad Ju-Ju in the water at Auburn Hills.
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
>

 

You know, if a group of true Jeeperphiles, who have some sort of collective
fortune, that would be great if they'd buy the Jeep name and continue on the
great Jeep tradition and maybe add some old school models.

Maybe they could have two product lines, each with its own specific line of
models. Classic and Progressive. Classic for the old school fans and
Progressive for the newer technology folk out there, maybe some hybrid of
the two as well.

Anyway... just a dream, just a dream...


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:5koyc.114$NW1.76@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> Someone will buy 'Jeep' and return it to wench it came...someday.
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:hqhyc.31$NW1.18@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >>Don' choo blaspheme in hera!>
> >
> >
> > I sure hope someone's left on the Jeep swb design team that can stop the
> > lunacy, but a good friend works fairly high up in the DC corporate world
and
> > said some months ago there's a very good chance, despite all the
eveidence
> > that it would be a bad move, that the IFS design will win out over the
more
> > traditional design poposals that would keep live axles front & rear on
the
> > TJ replacement.
> >
> > We can take heart that the Rubicon was produced despite the lawyers
> > concerns, and that the Unlimited somehow managed to get back just a bit
of
> > that old Scrambler vibe. DC brass should note that with the addition of
the
> > Rubicon & Unlimited, TJ sales for this year are up 41.5% May ytd vs last
> > year.
> >
> > Unfortunately DCs' brand management ******** point out how well the
Liberty
> > has done vs. the old Cherokee (a no-brainer since the XJ was so long in
the
> > tooth by the time it was replaced). They also admit few Cherokee buyers
> > traded for Libertys, and they don't know for sure where they went. A few
> > upgraded to GC, but most have disappered. There's some corporate
conjecture
> > they've bought low mileage used Cherokees as replacements, but mosty
they
> > conceed they've lost them to other brands.
> >
> > The IFS move was a bad one for Jeep, no matter what Consumer Reports or
the
> > "BMW is Heaven" Automotive press thinks. The loss of the Cherokee to the
> > Liberty fiasco, and the new Grand's awful styling & IFS design kinda
show
> > there's some bad Ju-Ju in the water at Auburn Hills.
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
>

 

You know, if a group of true Jeeperphiles, who have some sort of collective
fortune, that would be great if they'd buy the Jeep name and continue on the
great Jeep tradition and maybe add some old school models.

Maybe they could have two product lines, each with its own specific line of
models. Classic and Progressive. Classic for the old school fans and
Progressive for the newer technology folk out there, maybe some hybrid of
the two as well.

Anyway... just a dream, just a dream...


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:5koyc.114$NW1.76@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> Someone will buy 'Jeep' and return it to wench it came...someday.
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:hqhyc.31$NW1.18@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >>Don' choo blaspheme in hera!>
> >
> >
> > I sure hope someone's left on the Jeep swb design team that can stop the
> > lunacy, but a good friend works fairly high up in the DC corporate world
and
> > said some months ago there's a very good chance, despite all the
eveidence
> > that it would be a bad move, that the IFS design will win out over the
more
> > traditional design poposals that would keep live axles front & rear on
the
> > TJ replacement.
> >
> > We can take heart that the Rubicon was produced despite the lawyers
> > concerns, and that the Unlimited somehow managed to get back just a bit
of
> > that old Scrambler vibe. DC brass should note that with the addition of
the
> > Rubicon & Unlimited, TJ sales for this year are up 41.5% May ytd vs last
> > year.
> >
> > Unfortunately DCs' brand management ******** point out how well the
Liberty
> > has done vs. the old Cherokee (a no-brainer since the XJ was so long in
the
> > tooth by the time it was replaced). They also admit few Cherokee buyers
> > traded for Libertys, and they don't know for sure where they went. A few
> > upgraded to GC, but most have disappered. There's some corporate
conjecture
> > they've bought low mileage used Cherokees as replacements, but mosty
they
> > conceed they've lost them to other brands.
> >
> > The IFS move was a bad one for Jeep, no matter what Consumer Reports or
the
> > "BMW is Heaven" Automotive press thinks. The loss of the Cherokee to the
> > Liberty fiasco, and the new Grand's awful styling & IFS design kinda
show
> > there's some bad Ju-Ju in the water at Auburn Hills.
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
>

 

You know, if a group of true Jeeperphiles, who have some sort of collective
fortune, that would be great if they'd buy the Jeep name and continue on the
great Jeep tradition and maybe add some old school models.

Maybe they could have two product lines, each with its own specific line of
models. Classic and Progressive. Classic for the old school fans and
Progressive for the newer technology folk out there, maybe some hybrid of
the two as well.

Anyway... just a dream, just a dream...


"twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
news:5koyc.114$NW1.76@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com.. .
> Someone will buy 'Jeep' and return it to wench it came...someday.
>
> Jerry McG wrote:
>
> > "twaldron" <thomas@OBVIOUSrubicons.com> wrote in message
> > news:hqhyc.31$NW1.18@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >>Don' choo blaspheme in hera!>
> >
> >
> > I sure hope someone's left on the Jeep swb design team that can stop the
> > lunacy, but a good friend works fairly high up in the DC corporate world
and
> > said some months ago there's a very good chance, despite all the
eveidence
> > that it would be a bad move, that the IFS design will win out over the
more
> > traditional design poposals that would keep live axles front & rear on
the
> > TJ replacement.
> >
> > We can take heart that the Rubicon was produced despite the lawyers
> > concerns, and that the Unlimited somehow managed to get back just a bit
of
> > that old Scrambler vibe. DC brass should note that with the addition of
the
> > Rubicon & Unlimited, TJ sales for this year are up 41.5% May ytd vs last
> > year.
> >
> > Unfortunately DCs' brand management ******** point out how well the
Liberty
> > has done vs. the old Cherokee (a no-brainer since the XJ was so long in
the
> > tooth by the time it was replaced). They also admit few Cherokee buyers
> > traded for Libertys, and they don't know for sure where they went. A few
> > upgraded to GC, but most have disappered. There's some corporate
conjecture
> > they've bought low mileage used Cherokees as replacements, but mosty
they
> > conceed they've lost them to other brands.
> >
> > The IFS move was a bad one for Jeep, no matter what Consumer Reports or
the
> > "BMW is Heaven" Automotive press thinks. The loss of the Cherokee to the
> > Liberty fiasco, and the new Grand's awful styling & IFS design kinda
show
> > there's some bad Ju-Ju in the water at Auburn Hills.
> >
> >
>
> --
> __________________________________________________ _________
> tw
>
> 03 TJ Rubicon - Rubicon Express 4.5"
> 01 XJ Sport
>
> There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."
> -- Dave Barry
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp
> Function: noun
> Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80-inch wheelbase,
> 1/4-ton capacity, and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in
> World War II.
>
> (Please remove the OBVIOUS to reply by email)
> __________________________________________________ _________
>
>

 

>
>It would make sense for Chrysler to finally dump the tired, old inline-6

My 4.0L is not tired! Great engine. You must own a Libby.

-jeff

 

>
>It would make sense for Chrysler to finally dump the tired, old inline-6

My 4.0L is not tired! Great engine. You must own a Libby.

-jeff

 

>
>It would make sense for Chrysler to finally dump the tired, old inline-6

My 4.0L is not tired! Great engine. You must own a Libby.

-jeff