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Mike Romain 05-17-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
LOL! Got news for ya, they put a 'real' Dana 44 in my CJ7....

I also don't think they put the 35C into any CJ7.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Because, Billy Ray, perception is reality. The 44 or 44a has a bigger ring
> gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
> must be.
>
> Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
> the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
> thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
> use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
> never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
> pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
> is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
> have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
> not for V8 use or towing.
>
> According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
> sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> > Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and

> direct
> > information about the durability of the 44a.
> >
> > The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> > the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> > the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
> >
> > I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have

> been
> > and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> > respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
> >
> > If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> > suitable for street and mild off-road use?
> >
> > I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> > all WJs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also

> let
> > > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> > >
> > > billy ray wrote:
> > >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> > >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing

> to
> > >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> > >> well... You have seen the replies...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > >>
> > >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> > >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> > >>>
> > >>>Earle
> > >>>
> > >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> > >>>
> > >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> > >>>
> > >>>assuming,
> > >>>
> > >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> > >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Yes,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> > >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> > >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> > >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

> >
> >

>
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Mike Romain 05-17-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
LOL! Got news for ya, they put a 'real' Dana 44 in my CJ7....

I also don't think they put the 35C into any CJ7.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Because, Billy Ray, perception is reality. The 44 or 44a has a bigger ring
> gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
> must be.
>
> Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
> the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
> thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
> use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
> never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
> pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
> is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
> have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
> not for V8 use or towing.
>
> According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
> sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> > Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and

> direct
> > information about the durability of the 44a.
> >
> > The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> > the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> > the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
> >
> > I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have

> been
> > and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> > respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
> >
> > If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> > suitable for street and mild off-road use?
> >
> > I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> > all WJs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also

> let
> > > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> > >
> > > billy ray wrote:
> > >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> > >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing

> to
> > >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> > >> well... You have seen the replies...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > >>
> > >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> > >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> > >>>
> > >>>Earle
> > >>>
> > >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> > >>>
> > >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> > >>>
> > >>>assuming,
> > >>>
> > >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> > >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Yes,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> > >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> > >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> > >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

> >
> >

>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***


Mike Romain 05-17-2006 12:23 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
LOL! Got news for ya, they put a 'real' Dana 44 in my CJ7....

I also don't think they put the 35C into any CJ7.

Mike

Earle Horton wrote:
>
> Because, Billy Ray, perception is reality. The 44 or 44a has a bigger ring
> gear, and a higher model number, so it must be the better axle. It just
> must be.
>
> Back in the real world, posters here have reported that the 35c is not up to
> the abuse that a 4.0 liter engine can dish out. One fellow that I am
> thinking of reported, that he only subjected it to "street and mild off-road
> use", but he is a member of the Mile High Jeepers Club, uh huh. Those guys
> never abuse equipment. Then there is Bill's page, with all the axle shafts
> pulled out and the hokey rendition of "Lucille". I am thinking that the 35c
> is pretty evenly matched with the 2.5 liter fuel injected engine that I
> have, or the wimpy 258 cid carbureted engine in Mike's CJ7 ;^), but it is
> not for V8 use or towing.
>
> According to Jerry's excellent post, to which you failed to render
> sufficient homage, the 44a isn't either.
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> news:de194$446aac84$48311525$29794@FUSE.NET...
> > Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and

> direct
> > information about the durability of the 44a.
> >
> > The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
> > the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
> > the 35c and not if you have the 44a.
> >
> > I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have

> been
> > and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
> > respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.
> >
> > If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
> > suitable for street and mild off-road use?
> >
> > I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
> > all WJs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> > > You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> > > about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also

> let
> > > you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> > > Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> > > didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> > > positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> > > thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> > > time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> > > thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
> > >
> > > billy ray wrote:
> > >> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> > >> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing

> to
> > >> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
> > >> well... You have seen the replies...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> > >>
> > >>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
> > >>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
> > >>>
> > >>>Earle
> > >>>
> > >>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
> > >>>
> > >>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
> > >>>
> > >>>assuming,
> > >>>
> > >>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
> > >>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> > >>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>billy ray wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>Yes,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
> > >>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
> > >>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
> > >>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jerry Bransford
> > > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

> >
> >

>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***


twaldron 05-17-2006 12:38 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You should understand that the OP isn't the only one benefiting from the
posting of your experience.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Jerry Bransford wrote:
> You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
> let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.


twaldron 05-17-2006 12:38 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You should understand that the OP isn't the only one benefiting from the
posting of your experience.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Jerry Bransford wrote:
> You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
> let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.


twaldron 05-17-2006 12:38 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You should understand that the OP isn't the only one benefiting from the
posting of your experience.

tw
__________________________________________________ ___________________
2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco

"There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."

Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940

Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.
__________________________________________________ ___________________


Jerry Bransford wrote:
> You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
> let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 05-17-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
Yes, I often reverse what I'm thinking. I lived in Germany for a
year and half.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

mabar wrote:
>
> Bill:
>
> The Nazis called their country the father land. The Russians called their
> country the mother land.
>
> Tom


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 05-17-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
Yes, I often reverse what I'm thinking. I lived in Germany for a
year and half.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

mabar wrote:
>
> Bill:
>
> The Nazis called their country the father land. The Russians called their
> country the mother land.
>
> Tom


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 05-17-2006 04:09 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
Yes, I often reverse what I'm thinking. I lived in Germany for a
year and half.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

mabar wrote:
>
> Bill:
>
> The Nazis called their country the father land. The Russians called their
> country the mother land.
>
> Tom


L.W.(Bill) Hughes III 05-17-2006 04:14 PM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
Very true.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

twaldron wrote:
>
> You should understand that the OP isn't the only one benefiting from the
> posting of your experience.
>
> tw
> __________________________________________________ ___________________
> 2003 TJ Rubicon * 2001 XJ Sport * 1971 Bill Stroppe Baja Bronco
>
> "There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'."
>
> Pronunciation: 'jEp Function: noun Date: 1940
>
> Etymology: from g. p. (G= 'Government' P= '80 inch wheelbase')
> A small general-purpose motor vehicle with 80" wheelbase, 1/4-ton
> capacity and four-wheel drive used by the U.S. army in World War II.



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