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Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:10 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different axles
that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently didn't
like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:10 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different axles
that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently didn't
like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:23 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different
axlesGrand Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You
apparently didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you
only wanted positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent
sharing what I thought was help real-world experiences with you was a
100% waste of my time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when
they receive thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:23 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different
axlesGrand Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You
apparently didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you
only wanted positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent
sharing what I thought was help real-world experiences with you was a
100% waste of my time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when
they receive thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:23 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different
axlesGrand Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You
apparently didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you
only wanted positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent
sharing what I thought was help real-world experiences with you was a
100% waste of my time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when
they receive thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:24 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:24 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 05-17-2006 12:24 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also
let you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.

billy ray wrote:
> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic.... well...
> You have seen the replies...
>
>
> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>
>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>
>>Earle
>>
>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET...
>>
>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am

>>
>>assuming,
>>
>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>
>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>
>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>
>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>
>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>
>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

billy ray 05-17-2006 12:54 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
information about the durability of the 44a.

The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
the 35c and not if you have the 44a.

I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.

If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
suitable for street and mild off-road use?

I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
all WJs.




"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also let
> you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
>> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
>> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
>> well... You have seen the replies...
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>
>>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
>>>
>>>assuming,
>>>
>>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>>
>>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




billy ray 05-17-2006 12:54 AM

Re: Aluminum Dana 44
 
Jerry, Your reply was the only one that actually relayed useful and direct
information about the durability of the 44a.

The only reply I received that was directed toward a direct comparison of
the 35c and 44a was that the rear end of your WJ can be jacked if you have
the 35c and not if you have the 44a.

I asked because I wanted to know what the real world experiences have been
and it seems that the failure rate of the 44a in normal street usage, in
respect to the active posters on this newsgroup, is 100%.

If this the case then why is it used over the 35c which is, at least,
suitable for street and mild off-road use?

I assume it is not cheaper to manufacture because then it would be used in
all WJs.




"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:Mzxag.532$sP1.151@fed1read07...
> You got several replies from an owner of the specific axle you asked
> about, me, and I gave you my actual real experiences with it. I also let
> you know that I had bad experiences with it in two different Grand
> Cherokees that used the exact same axle you asked about. You apparently
> didn't like my real world experience with it so I guess you only wanted
> positive experiences. I now feel like the time I spent sharing what I
> thought was help real-world experiences with you was a 100% waste of my
> time. Most people are a bit more appreciative when they receive
> thoughtful answers. What a waste of my time.
>
> billy ray wrote:
>> I guess I should not be surprised........ When the topic is something
>> ridiculous there are no limits on the number of people who are willing to
>> pass on whatever information they may have but a serious topic....
>> well... You have seen the replies...
>>
>>
>> "Earle Horton" <Nurse-NOSPAM-Busters@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:4469ebd0$0$6048$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
>>
>>>If you want to put something over on your son in law, just tell your
>>>daughter he's no good. No need to confuse the issue with facts. ;^)
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"billy ray" <Kill.them.all@God.knows.his.own.com> wrote in message
>>>news:75ec0$4469cc1a$48311525$13706@FUSE.NET.. .
>>>
>>>>My son in law has an '03 with the factory towing package and, I am
>>>
>>>assuming,
>>>
>>>>a Dana 44a in the back.
>>>>
>>>>"L.W.(Bill) ------ III" <----------@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:44696433.71B47DC7@cox.net...
>>>>
>>>>> And the fact that you own an '02 WJ with a 35.
>>>>> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>>>>>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>billy ray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>As you may recall my original questions were:
>>>>>>"What is the real story with the Aluminum Dana 44 differential?
>>>>>>Just how strong (or weak) is it?
>>>>>>Does it have maintenance and reliability problems?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am just trying to get an reply that answer them....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/





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