Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

Do a spring over and put it on 33's. You'll love it and it won't break the
bank like going to 42's. A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine. You can
run 33's on your stock axles, but you cannot lock the rear.

To make your wrangler handle 32's is $6000. Minimum.

My best advice would be to get a dana 44/ford 8.8 or XJ 8.25 and put it in
the rear, locked up with a detroit, 4.56 gears. Get 4.56 gears and a
selectable locker for the front.

That traction and gear combination will turn 33's thru damn near anything
without breaking the bank or a lot of parts.

Carl


"Garrett" <Garrett.Loy@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1188122892.724825.168350@r23g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
> Hello,
> Can anyone point me in the direction of a complete conversion guide
> for a '90 YJ?
> I'm kind of new to it all, but I'm hoping to upgrade the following,
> along with anything else required to do so:
>
> -locking differentials (do I need these for both front and rear?),
> also probably axle upgrades.
>
> -40-42'' tires (Was looking at super swampers, but I might be on
> pavement too much to make them worthwhile), along with enough of a
> suspension lift. I get lost here, because the guides I usually see
> are for a maximum of 35" tires (are there laws against larger tires on
> the road?).
>
> -I have a freshly rebuilt stock engine (4.2L straight 6) right now,
> and I think I want to keep it. (I saw somewhere online that someone
> got away with 42"s and the stock 4.2).
>
> -I'm pretty sure my transmission is stock, would it need to be
> upgraded to handle the torque requirements of larger tires?
>
> I plan on using my rig mostly on desert/rocky trails and pavement, not
> so much for snow, and rain isn't much of an issue.
>
> I realize I'm a total newbie, but you've gotta start somewhere. All
> help is VERY greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
> -Garrett
>

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

Err to make your wrangler handle 42's, not 32's.

Carl

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_KKdnclNgcI2kk_bnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Do a spring over and put it on 33's. You'll love it and it won't break the
> bank like going to 42's. A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine. You
> can run 33's on your stock axles, but you cannot lock the rear.
>
> To make your wrangler handle 32's is $6000. Minimum.
>
> My best advice would be to get a dana 44/ford 8.8 or XJ 8.25 and put it in
> the rear, locked up with a detroit, 4.56 gears. Get 4.56 gears and a
> selectable locker for the front.
>
> That traction and gear combination will turn 33's thru damn near anything
> without breaking the bank or a lot of parts.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Garrett" <Garrett.Loy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1188122892.724825.168350@r23g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hello,
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of a complete conversion guide
>> for a '90 YJ?
>> I'm kind of new to it all, but I'm hoping to upgrade the following,
>> along with anything else required to do so:
>>
>> -locking differentials (do I need these for both front and rear?),
>> also probably axle upgrades.
>>
>> -40-42'' tires (Was looking at super swampers, but I might be on
>> pavement too much to make them worthwhile), along with enough of a
>> suspension lift. I get lost here, because the guides I usually see
>> are for a maximum of 35" tires (are there laws against larger tires on
>> the road?).
>>
>> -I have a freshly rebuilt stock engine (4.2L straight 6) right now,
>> and I think I want to keep it. (I saw somewhere online that someone
>> got away with 42"s and the stock 4.2).
>>
>> -I'm pretty sure my transmission is stock, would it need to be
>> upgraded to handle the torque requirements of larger tires?
>>
>> I plan on using my rig mostly on desert/rocky trails and pavement, not
>> so much for snow, and rain isn't much of an issue.
>>
>> I realize I'm a total newbie, but you've gotta start somewhere. All
>> help is VERY greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Garrett
>>
>
>

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

Err to make your wrangler handle 42's, not 32's.

Carl

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_KKdnclNgcI2kk_bnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Do a spring over and put it on 33's. You'll love it and it won't break the
> bank like going to 42's. A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine. You
> can run 33's on your stock axles, but you cannot lock the rear.
>
> To make your wrangler handle 32's is $6000. Minimum.
>
> My best advice would be to get a dana 44/ford 8.8 or XJ 8.25 and put it in
> the rear, locked up with a detroit, 4.56 gears. Get 4.56 gears and a
> selectable locker for the front.
>
> That traction and gear combination will turn 33's thru damn near anything
> without breaking the bank or a lot of parts.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Garrett" <Garrett.Loy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1188122892.724825.168350@r23g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hello,
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of a complete conversion guide
>> for a '90 YJ?
>> I'm kind of new to it all, but I'm hoping to upgrade the following,
>> along with anything else required to do so:
>>
>> -locking differentials (do I need these for both front and rear?),
>> also probably axle upgrades.
>>
>> -40-42'' tires (Was looking at super swampers, but I might be on
>> pavement too much to make them worthwhile), along with enough of a
>> suspension lift. I get lost here, because the guides I usually see
>> are for a maximum of 35" tires (are there laws against larger tires on
>> the road?).
>>
>> -I have a freshly rebuilt stock engine (4.2L straight 6) right now,
>> and I think I want to keep it. (I saw somewhere online that someone
>> got away with 42"s and the stock 4.2).
>>
>> -I'm pretty sure my transmission is stock, would it need to be
>> upgraded to handle the torque requirements of larger tires?
>>
>> I plan on using my rig mostly on desert/rocky trails and pavement, not
>> so much for snow, and rain isn't much of an issue.
>>
>> I realize I'm a total newbie, but you've gotta start somewhere. All
>> help is VERY greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Garrett
>>
>
>

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

Err to make your wrangler handle 42's, not 32's.

Carl

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_KKdnclNgcI2kk_bnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Do a spring over and put it on 33's. You'll love it and it won't break the
> bank like going to 42's. A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine. You
> can run 33's on your stock axles, but you cannot lock the rear.
>
> To make your wrangler handle 32's is $6000. Minimum.
>
> My best advice would be to get a dana 44/ford 8.8 or XJ 8.25 and put it in
> the rear, locked up with a detroit, 4.56 gears. Get 4.56 gears and a
> selectable locker for the front.
>
> That traction and gear combination will turn 33's thru damn near anything
> without breaking the bank or a lot of parts.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Garrett" <Garrett.Loy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1188122892.724825.168350@r23g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hello,
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of a complete conversion guide
>> for a '90 YJ?
>> I'm kind of new to it all, but I'm hoping to upgrade the following,
>> along with anything else required to do so:
>>
>> -locking differentials (do I need these for both front and rear?),
>> also probably axle upgrades.
>>
>> -40-42'' tires (Was looking at super swampers, but I might be on
>> pavement too much to make them worthwhile), along with enough of a
>> suspension lift. I get lost here, because the guides I usually see
>> are for a maximum of 35" tires (are there laws against larger tires on
>> the road?).
>>
>> -I have a freshly rebuilt stock engine (4.2L straight 6) right now,
>> and I think I want to keep it. (I saw somewhere online that someone
>> got away with 42"s and the stock 4.2).
>>
>> -I'm pretty sure my transmission is stock, would it need to be
>> upgraded to handle the torque requirements of larger tires?
>>
>> I plan on using my rig mostly on desert/rocky trails and pavement, not
>> so much for snow, and rain isn't much of an issue.
>>
>> I realize I'm a total newbie, but you've gotta start somewhere. All
>> help is VERY greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Garrett
>>
>
>

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

Err to make your wrangler handle 42's, not 32's.

Carl

"Carl S" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:_KKdnclNgcI2kk_bnZ2dnUVZ_qCgnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
> Do a spring over and put it on 33's. You'll love it and it won't break the
> bank like going to 42's. A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine. You
> can run 33's on your stock axles, but you cannot lock the rear.
>
> To make your wrangler handle 32's is $6000. Minimum.
>
> My best advice would be to get a dana 44/ford 8.8 or XJ 8.25 and put it in
> the rear, locked up with a detroit, 4.56 gears. Get 4.56 gears and a
> selectable locker for the front.
>
> That traction and gear combination will turn 33's thru damn near anything
> without breaking the bank or a lot of parts.
>
> Carl
>
>
> "Garrett" <Garrett.Loy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1188122892.724825.168350@r23g2000prd.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hello,
>> Can anyone point me in the direction of a complete conversion guide
>> for a '90 YJ?
>> I'm kind of new to it all, but I'm hoping to upgrade the following,
>> along with anything else required to do so:
>>
>> -locking differentials (do I need these for both front and rear?),
>> also probably axle upgrades.
>>
>> -40-42'' tires (Was looking at super swampers, but I might be on
>> pavement too much to make them worthwhile), along with enough of a
>> suspension lift. I get lost here, because the guides I usually see
>> are for a maximum of 35" tires (are there laws against larger tires on
>> the road?).
>>
>> -I have a freshly rebuilt stock engine (4.2L straight 6) right now,
>> and I think I want to keep it. (I saw somewhere online that someone
>> got away with 42"s and the stock 4.2).
>>
>> -I'm pretty sure my transmission is stock, would it need to be
>> upgraded to handle the torque requirements of larger tires?
>>
>> I plan on using my rig mostly on desert/rocky trails and pavement, not
>> so much for snow, and rain isn't much of an issue.
>>
>> I realize I'm a total newbie, but you've gotta start somewhere. All
>> help is VERY greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Garrett
>>
>
>

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

"This is not to say it cannot be done but it is to say it will be
no easy task "
-I realize that it will not be easy. I dont expect this to be
completed by tomorrow, it's something I plan to work on over a very
long time period.

"A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine."
-I've already got 31"s on there, I don't really want to do a SOA
conversion and only increase my tires by 2".

I made this page up a few months ago,
http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/wranglerconversion
also, http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/yjinfo

basically what i still need to know is,
-is there any kind of federal/state of CA law against having 40+ inch
tires on a personal vehicle? or where would I find out?
- "you will have to pretty much completely replace your driveline with
(at minimum) 1-ton axles, heavy-duty transfer case/transmission,
driveshafts, etc."
given that I have the A/X-15, do I still require a new transmission/
transfer case? how about motor?

Thanks!

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

"This is not to say it cannot be done but it is to say it will be
no easy task "
-I realize that it will not be easy. I dont expect this to be
completed by tomorrow, it's something I plan to work on over a very
long time period.

"A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine."
-I've already got 31"s on there, I don't really want to do a SOA
conversion and only increase my tires by 2".

I made this page up a few months ago,
http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/wranglerconversion
also, http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/yjinfo

basically what i still need to know is,
-is there any kind of federal/state of CA law against having 40+ inch
tires on a personal vehicle? or where would I find out?
- "you will have to pretty much completely replace your driveline with
(at minimum) 1-ton axles, heavy-duty transfer case/transmission,
driveshafts, etc."
given that I have the A/X-15, do I still require a new transmission/
transfer case? how about motor?

Thanks!

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

"This is not to say it cannot be done but it is to say it will be
no easy task "
-I realize that it will not be easy. I dont expect this to be
completed by tomorrow, it's something I plan to work on over a very
long time period.

"A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine."
-I've already got 31"s on there, I don't really want to do a SOA
conversion and only increase my tires by 2".

I made this page up a few months ago,
http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/wranglerconversion
also, http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/yjinfo

basically what i still need to know is,
-is there any kind of federal/state of CA law against having 40+ inch
tires on a personal vehicle? or where would I find out?
- "you will have to pretty much completely replace your driveline with
(at minimum) 1-ton axles, heavy-duty transfer case/transmission,
driveshafts, etc."
given that I have the A/X-15, do I still require a new transmission/
transfer case? how about motor?

Thanks!

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

"This is not to say it cannot be done but it is to say it will be
no easy task "
-I realize that it will not be easy. I dont expect this to be
completed by tomorrow, it's something I plan to work on over a very
long time period.

"A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine."
-I've already got 31"s on there, I don't really want to do a SOA
conversion and only increase my tires by 2".

I made this page up a few months ago,
http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/wranglerconversion
also, http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/yjinfo

basically what i still need to know is,
-is there any kind of federal/state of CA law against having 40+ inch
tires on a personal vehicle? or where would I find out?
- "you will have to pretty much completely replace your driveline with
(at minimum) 1-ton axles, heavy-duty transfer case/transmission,
driveshafts, etc."
given that I have the A/X-15, do I still require a new transmission/
transfer case? how about motor?

Thanks!

Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
 

Garrett wrote:
> "This is not to say it cannot be done but it is to say it will be
> no easy task "
> -I realize that it will not be easy. I dont expect this to be
> completed by tomorrow, it's something I plan to work on over a very
> long time period.
>
> "A wrangler on 42's is completely assinine."
> -I've already got 31"s on there, I don't really want to do a SOA
> conversion and only increase my tires by 2".
>
> I made this page up a few months ago,
> http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/wranglerconversion
> also, http://garrett.loy.googlepages.com/yjinfo
>
> basically what i still need to know is,
> -is there any kind of federal/state of CA law against having 40+ inch
> tires on a personal vehicle? or where would I find out?
> - "you will have to pretty much completely replace your driveline with
> (at minimum) 1-ton axles, heavy-duty transfer case/transmission,
> driveshafts, etc."
> given that I have the A/X-15, do I still require a new transmission/
> transfer case? how about motor?
>
> Thanks!
>
>

Here's the site for California Law through 2006:

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html

You are probably, though not necessarily, safe if you limit your search
to the Vehicle Code, but the law is a funny thing, and I am not a lawyer.

Happy hunting.