Re: Re: Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:49:09 -0700, "Carl S"
<carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: >The fact of the matter remains that properly geared, the 2.5L provides >adequate power off road while in low range. It is a great mill for this properly geared. Cheap to feed (longer wheeling time), easy to cool and weighs less too. Many years ago (in 70's) I had a freind that lived near NC/Tenn border that had a old 51 Dodge military truck that looked like a Jeep on steriods with a flat head six and a top speed of about 45. It weighed about 3 tons and had military type tires around 36 inches tall in it and a engine driven winch. It was a tank off road and would go anywhere you pointed it and had right amount of power and gears for off road too. (first gear low range was about 2 MPH tops) If hill was too steep to climb you could winch yourself up in short order with good line speed and never worry about battery dying or winch overheating. I had a chance to buy that things years ago and kick myself for never doing it. It was 100% stock and it great shape too. Once on a old loging road we feel through a old wood bridge about 4 or 5 feet into creak below with a few feet of water in it. We simply drove down the creek for a while until we found a place to climb out and blaze a trail through brush and small trees to get back hillside to old logging road. It was a blast to drive off road. A V8 would not have made it any more fun to drive or able. The silly thing even supported a snokle but we never used that feature. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
SnoMan wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:49:09 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The fact of the matter remains that properly geared, the 2.5L provides >> adequate power off road while in low range. > > > It is a great mill for this properly geared. Cheap to feed (longer > wheeling time), easy to cool and weighs less too. Many years ago (in > 70's) I had a freind that lived near NC/Tenn border that had a old 51 > Dodge military truck that looked like a Jeep on steriods with a flat > head six and a top speed of about 45. It weighed about 3 tons and had > military type tires around 36 inches tall in it and a engine driven > winch. It was a tank off road and would go anywhere you pointed it and > had right amount of power and gears for off road too. (first gear low > range was about 2 MPH tops) If hill was too steep to climb you could > winch yourself up in short order with good line speed and never worry > about battery dying or winch overheating. I had a chance to buy that > things years ago and kick myself for never doing it. It was 100% stock > and it great shape too. Once on a old loging road we feel through a > old wood bridge about 4 or 5 feet into creak below with a few feet of > water in it. We simply drove down the creek for a while until we found > a place to climb out and blaze a trail through brush and small trees > to get back hillside to old logging road. It was a blast to drive off > road. A V8 would not have made it any more fun to drive or able. The > silly thing even supported a snokle but we never used that feature. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com OK, I need to explain myself a bit more here. I agree that the 4 cyl will do OK in a rig set up properly. However, the picture I responded to was a YJ with 42" tires and obviously not much capability of articulating over rocky terrain. If that rig had even looked like it could off-road on more than a farm field or 2 rut road, I probably wouldn't have mentioned it. The rig in the picture looked like it would be able to go mudding with the tires it had, but then the 4 cyl would more than likely be inadequate. I guess I was analyzing the whole picture more than just the engine. Personally, I wouldn't build a 4 cylinder Wrangler, but that is my personal preference. Chris |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
SnoMan wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:49:09 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The fact of the matter remains that properly geared, the 2.5L provides >> adequate power off road while in low range. > > > It is a great mill for this properly geared. Cheap to feed (longer > wheeling time), easy to cool and weighs less too. Many years ago (in > 70's) I had a freind that lived near NC/Tenn border that had a old 51 > Dodge military truck that looked like a Jeep on steriods with a flat > head six and a top speed of about 45. It weighed about 3 tons and had > military type tires around 36 inches tall in it and a engine driven > winch. It was a tank off road and would go anywhere you pointed it and > had right amount of power and gears for off road too. (first gear low > range was about 2 MPH tops) If hill was too steep to climb you could > winch yourself up in short order with good line speed and never worry > about battery dying or winch overheating. I had a chance to buy that > things years ago and kick myself for never doing it. It was 100% stock > and it great shape too. Once on a old loging road we feel through a > old wood bridge about 4 or 5 feet into creak below with a few feet of > water in it. We simply drove down the creek for a while until we found > a place to climb out and blaze a trail through brush and small trees > to get back hillside to old logging road. It was a blast to drive off > road. A V8 would not have made it any more fun to drive or able. The > silly thing even supported a snokle but we never used that feature. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com OK, I need to explain myself a bit more here. I agree that the 4 cyl will do OK in a rig set up properly. However, the picture I responded to was a YJ with 42" tires and obviously not much capability of articulating over rocky terrain. If that rig had even looked like it could off-road on more than a farm field or 2 rut road, I probably wouldn't have mentioned it. The rig in the picture looked like it would be able to go mudding with the tires it had, but then the 4 cyl would more than likely be inadequate. I guess I was analyzing the whole picture more than just the engine. Personally, I wouldn't build a 4 cylinder Wrangler, but that is my personal preference. Chris |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
SnoMan wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:49:09 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The fact of the matter remains that properly geared, the 2.5L provides >> adequate power off road while in low range. > > > It is a great mill for this properly geared. Cheap to feed (longer > wheeling time), easy to cool and weighs less too. Many years ago (in > 70's) I had a freind that lived near NC/Tenn border that had a old 51 > Dodge military truck that looked like a Jeep on steriods with a flat > head six and a top speed of about 45. It weighed about 3 tons and had > military type tires around 36 inches tall in it and a engine driven > winch. It was a tank off road and would go anywhere you pointed it and > had right amount of power and gears for off road too. (first gear low > range was about 2 MPH tops) If hill was too steep to climb you could > winch yourself up in short order with good line speed and never worry > about battery dying or winch overheating. I had a chance to buy that > things years ago and kick myself for never doing it. It was 100% stock > and it great shape too. Once on a old loging road we feel through a > old wood bridge about 4 or 5 feet into creak below with a few feet of > water in it. We simply drove down the creek for a while until we found > a place to climb out and blaze a trail through brush and small trees > to get back hillside to old logging road. It was a blast to drive off > road. A V8 would not have made it any more fun to drive or able. The > silly thing even supported a snokle but we never used that feature. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com OK, I need to explain myself a bit more here. I agree that the 4 cyl will do OK in a rig set up properly. However, the picture I responded to was a YJ with 42" tires and obviously not much capability of articulating over rocky terrain. If that rig had even looked like it could off-road on more than a farm field or 2 rut road, I probably wouldn't have mentioned it. The rig in the picture looked like it would be able to go mudding with the tires it had, but then the 4 cyl would more than likely be inadequate. I guess I was analyzing the whole picture more than just the engine. Personally, I wouldn't build a 4 cylinder Wrangler, but that is my personal preference. Chris |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
SnoMan wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:49:09 -0700, "Carl S" > <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote: > >> The fact of the matter remains that properly geared, the 2.5L provides >> adequate power off road while in low range. > > > It is a great mill for this properly geared. Cheap to feed (longer > wheeling time), easy to cool and weighs less too. Many years ago (in > 70's) I had a freind that lived near NC/Tenn border that had a old 51 > Dodge military truck that looked like a Jeep on steriods with a flat > head six and a top speed of about 45. It weighed about 3 tons and had > military type tires around 36 inches tall in it and a engine driven > winch. It was a tank off road and would go anywhere you pointed it and > had right amount of power and gears for off road too. (first gear low > range was about 2 MPH tops) If hill was too steep to climb you could > winch yourself up in short order with good line speed and never worry > about battery dying or winch overheating. I had a chance to buy that > things years ago and kick myself for never doing it. It was 100% stock > and it great shape too. Once on a old loging road we feel through a > old wood bridge about 4 or 5 feet into creak below with a few feet of > water in it. We simply drove down the creek for a while until we found > a place to climb out and blaze a trail through brush and small trees > to get back hillside to old logging road. It was a blast to drive off > road. A V8 would not have made it any more fun to drive or able. The > silly thing even supported a snokle but we never used that feature. > ----------------- > TheSnoMan.com OK, I need to explain myself a bit more here. I agree that the 4 cyl will do OK in a rig set up properly. However, the picture I responded to was a YJ with 42" tires and obviously not much capability of articulating over rocky terrain. If that rig had even looked like it could off-road on more than a farm field or 2 rut road, I probably wouldn't have mentioned it. The rig in the picture looked like it would be able to go mudding with the tires it had, but then the 4 cyl would more than likely be inadequate. I guess I was analyzing the whole picture more than just the engine. Personally, I wouldn't build a 4 cylinder Wrangler, but that is my personal preference. Chris |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
Garrett wrote:
> http://4wheeldrive.about.com/library/uc/uceelkins.htm > so this guy is just a moron who gets 1-2 MPG? > Not being sarcastic, actually curious, lol. > Thanks, > Garrett Probably gets a few MPG less and has a bit of lugging in first. Doubt he ever sees top gear. Doesn't say if he regeared the diffs or has a locker but if he has a locker the axles aren't going to last too long if he puts any force on them. Probably a swamper/mudbuggy. -- DougW |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
Garrett wrote:
> http://4wheeldrive.about.com/library/uc/uceelkins.htm > so this guy is just a moron who gets 1-2 MPG? > Not being sarcastic, actually curious, lol. > Thanks, > Garrett Probably gets a few MPG less and has a bit of lugging in first. Doubt he ever sees top gear. Doesn't say if he regeared the diffs or has a locker but if he has a locker the axles aren't going to last too long if he puts any force on them. Probably a swamper/mudbuggy. -- DougW |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
Garrett wrote:
> http://4wheeldrive.about.com/library/uc/uceelkins.htm > so this guy is just a moron who gets 1-2 MPG? > Not being sarcastic, actually curious, lol. > Thanks, > Garrett Probably gets a few MPG less and has a bit of lugging in first. Doubt he ever sees top gear. Doesn't say if he regeared the diffs or has a locker but if he has a locker the axles aren't going to last too long if he puts any force on them. Probably a swamper/mudbuggy. -- DougW |
Re: Advice please: '90 YJ Conversion
Garrett wrote:
> http://4wheeldrive.about.com/library/uc/uceelkins.htm > so this guy is just a moron who gets 1-2 MPG? > Not being sarcastic, actually curious, lol. > Thanks, > Garrett Probably gets a few MPG less and has a bit of lugging in first. Doubt he ever sees top gear. Doesn't say if he regeared the diffs or has a locker but if he has a locker the axles aren't going to last too long if he puts any force on them. Probably a swamper/mudbuggy. -- DougW |
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