L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III

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"c" <c@me.org> wrote in message
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>
> I've been there a few times now. The first time the humidity hit me when
> I walked out of the airport in Manila, I damn near fainted. I got used
> to it after a few days though, surprisingly. Granted, I wouldn't want to
> run a marathon or anything, but the pluses outweigh the minuses in my
> opinion. We plan on living in Mindanao in Iligan City, in case you know
> where that is. I fell in love with the place to be honest.
>
> Chris



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peachyracer

c wrote:
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>>>> c wrote:
>>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
>>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
>>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
>>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
>>>>>>>>>> life at
>>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
>>>>>>>>>> Toyota
>>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
>>>>>>>>>> was using
>>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
>>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
>>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
>>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
>>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
>>>>>>>> 89 and
>>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
>>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
>>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
>>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
>>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
>>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
>>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
>>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
>>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
>>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
>>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
>>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
>>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
>>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
>>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>>>
>>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
>>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>>>> probably for a different thread.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
>>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
>>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
>>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> end.
>
> Chris

Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
Pete

peachyracer

c wrote:
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>>>> c wrote:
>>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
>>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
>>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
>>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
>>>>>>>>>> life at
>>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
>>>>>>>>>> Toyota
>>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
>>>>>>>>>> was using
>>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
>>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
>>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
>>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
>>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
>>>>>>>> 89 and
>>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
>>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
>>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
>>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
>>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
>>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
>>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
>>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
>>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
>>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
>>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
>>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
>>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
>>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
>>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>>>
>>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
>>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>>>> probably for a different thread.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
>>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
>>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
>>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> end.
>
> Chris

Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
Pete

peachyracer

c wrote:
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>>>> c wrote:
>>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
>>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
>>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
>>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
>>>>>>>>>> life at
>>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
>>>>>>>>>> Toyota
>>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
>>>>>>>>>> was using
>>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
>>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
>>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
>>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
>>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
>>>>>>>> 89 and
>>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
>>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
>>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
>>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
>>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
>>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
>>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
>>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
>>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
>>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
>>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
>>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
>>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
>>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
>>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>>>
>>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
>>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>>>> probably for a different thread.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
>>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
>>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
>>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> end.
>
> Chris

Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
Pete

peachyracer

c wrote:
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>>>> c wrote:
>>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
>>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
>>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
>>>>>>>>>> ago
>>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
>>>>>>>>>> life at
>>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
>>>>>>>>>> Toyota
>>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
>>>>>>>>>> was using
>>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
>>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
>>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
>>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
>>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
>>>>>>>> 89 and
>>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
>>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
>>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
>>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
>>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
>>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
>>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
>>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
>>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
>>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
>>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
>>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
>>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
>>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
>>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>>>
>>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
>>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>>>> probably for a different thread.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
>>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
>>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
>>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>>
>>
>
> Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> end.
>
> Chris

Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
Pete

Tracie

On Sep 20, 10:10 am, peachyracer <""pstolz\"@$bcglobal.net"> wrote:
> c wrote:
> > peachyracer > wrote:
> >> c wrote:
> >>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>> c wrote:
> >>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>>>> c wrote:
> >>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
> >>>>>>>>>>> my truck
> >>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
> >>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
> >>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
> >>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
> >>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
> >>>>>>>>>>> here and
> >>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
> >>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
> >>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
> >>>>>>>>>> ago
> >>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
> >>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
> >>>>>>>>>> life at
> >>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
> >>>>>>>>>> Toyota
> >>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
> >>>>>>>>>> was using
> >>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
> >>>>>>>>>> determined
> >>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
> >>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
> >>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
> >>>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
> >>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
> >>>>>>>>> Pearl"
> >>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
> >>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
> >>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
> >>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
> >>>>>>>> instead of
> >>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
> >>>>>>>> 89 and
> >>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>
> >>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
> >>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
> >>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
> >>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
> >>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
> >>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
> >>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
> >>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>
> >>>>>>> Chris
>
> >>>>>> Hi Chris,
> >>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
> >>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
> >>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
> >>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
> >>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
> >>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
> >>>>>> though.
>
> >>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
> >>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
> >>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
> >>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
> >>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>
> >>>>> Chris
>
> >>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
> >>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
> >>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
> >>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>
> >>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
> >>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
> >>>> probably for a different thread.
>
> >>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
> >>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
> >>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
> >>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>
> >>> Chris
>
> >> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>
> > Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> > from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> > too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> > be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> > rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> > there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> > heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> > actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> > end.
>
> > Chris
>
> Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
> some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
> unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
> stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
> 'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
> there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
> Pete- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

TW --
My 'actual' speed was 6 mph faster than what the speedo was reading.
The dealership could not get it dead on, but it's now within 1-2 mph
of my actual speed.

Chris --
Good luck with your move! It really sounds like fun. The only
foreign countries I have been in is France, Switzerland, and Italy
when I went on a 2 week vacation with some friends. It was ALOT of
fun. Granted, you're permanently moving, but I am sure you will do
fine in the Philippines. Hey....at least you won't lose touch with
how to work on Jeeps!

Thanks for all the help everyone has given me on this site. I do have
another question tho, but I will put it in a different thread. It's
regarding regearing. TW -- I think it was you who gave me some info
about that in a previous thread. Please read it and give me your
opinion (and anyone else who would like to chime in with their
thoughts are welcome as well).

Tracie

On Sep 20, 10:10 am, peachyracer <""pstolz\"@$bcglobal.net"> wrote:
> c wrote:
> > peachyracer > wrote:
> >> c wrote:
> >>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>> c wrote:
> >>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>>>> c wrote:
> >>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
> >>>>>>>>>>> my truck
> >>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
> >>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
> >>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
> >>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
> >>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
> >>>>>>>>>>> here and
> >>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
> >>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
> >>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
> >>>>>>>>>> ago
> >>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
> >>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
> >>>>>>>>>> life at
> >>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
> >>>>>>>>>> Toyota
> >>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
> >>>>>>>>>> was using
> >>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
> >>>>>>>>>> determined
> >>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
> >>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
> >>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
> >>>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
> >>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
> >>>>>>>>> Pearl"
> >>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
> >>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
> >>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
> >>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
> >>>>>>>> instead of
> >>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
> >>>>>>>> 89 and
> >>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>
> >>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
> >>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
> >>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
> >>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
> >>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
> >>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
> >>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
> >>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>
> >>>>>>> Chris
>
> >>>>>> Hi Chris,
> >>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
> >>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
> >>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
> >>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
> >>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
> >>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
> >>>>>> though.
>
> >>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
> >>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
> >>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
> >>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
> >>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>
> >>>>> Chris
>
> >>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
> >>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
> >>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
> >>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>
> >>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
> >>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
> >>>> probably for a different thread.
>
> >>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
> >>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
> >>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
> >>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>
> >>> Chris
>
> >> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>
> > Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> > from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> > too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> > be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> > rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> > there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> > heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> > actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> > end.
>
> > Chris
>
> Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
> some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
> unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
> stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
> 'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
> there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
> Pete- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

TW --
My 'actual' speed was 6 mph faster than what the speedo was reading.
The dealership could not get it dead on, but it's now within 1-2 mph
of my actual speed.

Chris --
Good luck with your move! It really sounds like fun. The only
foreign countries I have been in is France, Switzerland, and Italy
when I went on a 2 week vacation with some friends. It was ALOT of
fun. Granted, you're permanently moving, but I am sure you will do
fine in the Philippines. Hey....at least you won't lose touch with
how to work on Jeeps!

Thanks for all the help everyone has given me on this site. I do have
another question tho, but I will put it in a different thread. It's
regarding regearing. TW -- I think it was you who gave me some info
about that in a previous thread. Please read it and give me your
opinion (and anyone else who would like to chime in with their
thoughts are welcome as well).

Tracie

On Sep 20, 10:10 am, peachyracer <""pstolz\"@$bcglobal.net"> wrote:
> c wrote:
> > peachyracer > wrote:
> >> c wrote:
> >>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>> c wrote:
> >>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>>>> c wrote:
> >>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
> >>>>>>>>>>> my truck
> >>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
> >>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
> >>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
> >>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
> >>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
> >>>>>>>>>>> here and
> >>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
> >>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
> >>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
> >>>>>>>>>> ago
> >>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
> >>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
> >>>>>>>>>> life at
> >>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
> >>>>>>>>>> Toyota
> >>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
> >>>>>>>>>> was using
> >>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
> >>>>>>>>>> determined
> >>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
> >>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
> >>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
> >>>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
> >>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
> >>>>>>>>> Pearl"
> >>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
> >>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
> >>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
> >>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
> >>>>>>>> instead of
> >>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
> >>>>>>>> 89 and
> >>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>
> >>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
> >>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
> >>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
> >>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
> >>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
> >>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
> >>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
> >>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>
> >>>>>>> Chris
>
> >>>>>> Hi Chris,
> >>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
> >>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
> >>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
> >>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
> >>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
> >>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
> >>>>>> though.
>
> >>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
> >>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
> >>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
> >>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
> >>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>
> >>>>> Chris
>
> >>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
> >>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
> >>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
> >>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>
> >>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
> >>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
> >>>> probably for a different thread.
>
> >>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
> >>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
> >>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
> >>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>
> >>> Chris
>
> >> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>
> > Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> > from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> > too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> > be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> > rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> > there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> > heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> > actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> > end.
>
> > Chris
>
> Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
> some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
> unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
> stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
> 'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
> there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
> Pete- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

TW --
My 'actual' speed was 6 mph faster than what the speedo was reading.
The dealership could not get it dead on, but it's now within 1-2 mph
of my actual speed.

Chris --
Good luck with your move! It really sounds like fun. The only
foreign countries I have been in is France, Switzerland, and Italy
when I went on a 2 week vacation with some friends. It was ALOT of
fun. Granted, you're permanently moving, but I am sure you will do
fine in the Philippines. Hey....at least you won't lose touch with
how to work on Jeeps!

Thanks for all the help everyone has given me on this site. I do have
another question tho, but I will put it in a different thread. It's
regarding regearing. TW -- I think it was you who gave me some info
about that in a previous thread. Please read it and give me your
opinion (and anyone else who would like to chime in with their
thoughts are welcome as well).

Tracie

On Sep 20, 10:10 am, peachyracer <""pstolz\"@$bcglobal.net"> wrote:
> c wrote:
> > peachyracer > wrote:
> >> c wrote:
> >>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>> c wrote:
> >>>>> peachyracer > wrote:
> >>>>>> c wrote:
> >>>>>>> Tracie wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
> >>>>>>>>>>> my truck
> >>>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine
> >>>>>>>>>>> will wear out
> >>>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
> >>>>>>>>>>> the lugging
> >>>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
> >>>>>>>>>>> here and
> >>>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
> >>>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
> >>>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
> >>>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years
> >>>>>>>>>> ago
> >>>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
> >>>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten
> >>>>>>>>>> life at
> >>>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a
> >>>>>>>>>> Toyota
> >>>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and
> >>>>>>>>>> was using
> >>>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
> >>>>>>>>>> determined
> >>>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a
> >>>>>>>>>> 700R4 or
> >>>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
> >>>>>>>>>> -----------------
> >>>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
> >>>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
> >>>>>>>>> baseball bat.
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
> >>>>>>>>> Pearl"
> >>>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT,
> >>>>>>>>> MAMBM -- Posted via a free Usenet account
> >>>>>>>>> fromhttp://www.teranews.com-Hide quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
> >>>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
> >>>>>>>> instead of
> >>>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the
> >>>>>>>> 89 and
> >>>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>
> >>>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
> >>>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93
> >>>>>>> octane to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're
> >>>>>>> good to go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try
> >>>>>>> all 93. The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled
> >>>>>>> with the least amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now
> >>>>>>> where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for whatever reason,
> >>>>>>> so I just use the 89 octane.
>
> >>>>>>> Chris
>
> >>>>>> Hi Chris,
> >>>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around
> >>>>>> here had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with
> >>>>>> up to 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the
> >>>>>> prices anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have
> >>>>>> no clue how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one
> >>>>>> jug runs out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content
> >>>>>> though.
>
> >>>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
> >>>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
> >>>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to
> >>>>> pay more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it
> >>>>> just runs like crap in my truck.
>
> >>>>> Chris
>
> >>>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
> >>>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
> >>>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if
> >>>> you actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>
> >>>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have
> >>>> to. I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
> >>>> probably for a different thread.
>
> >>> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it
> >>> at least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my
> >>> situation right now tells me not to take on any new projects because
> >>> I am planning on relocating overseas soon.
>
> >>> Chris
>
> >> I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
>
> > Thanks. I am planning on moving to the Philippines where my fiancee is
> > from. I am tired of the weather here. It's too damn hot all summer and
> > too damn cold in the winter. At least there I know what the weather will
> > be like because it's pretty much the same year round, other than the
> > rainy season when it um, rains! Besides, there are so many Jeeps over
> > there and many of the body parts are still made there. It really is Jeep
> > heaven. Even the "buses" there are Jeeps. They are called Jeepneys
> > actually. Looks like a CJ or TJ from end grafted on to a school bus back
> > end.
>
> > Chris
>
> Yeah my wife and I are not fond of the weather here either, but we have
> some pretty deep roots down right now. Those Jeepneys are weird...very
> unique. I've seen them in some Jeep books I've got, and a friend was
> stationed there with the Air Force back in the 80's and he told me about
> 'em. I'm guessing 4x2s, but that's a guess. ;) I hope you have fun down
> there, it sound like a HUGE adventure. I'm jealous.
> Pete- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

TW --
My 'actual' speed was 6 mph faster than what the speedo was reading.
The dealership could not get it dead on, but it's now within 1-2 mph
of my actual speed.

Chris --
Good luck with your move! It really sounds like fun. The only
foreign countries I have been in is France, Switzerland, and Italy
when I went on a 2 week vacation with some friends. It was ALOT of
fun. Granted, you're permanently moving, but I am sure you will do
fine in the Philippines. Hey....at least you won't lose touch with
how to work on Jeeps!

Thanks for all the help everyone has given me on this site. I do have
another question tho, but I will put it in a different thread. It's
regarding regearing. TW -- I think it was you who gave me some info
about that in a previous thread. Please read it and give me your
opinion (and anyone else who would like to chime in with their
thoughts are welcome as well).

24Bit®

On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:10:38 -0700, "L.W. \(Bill\) ------ III"
<LWBill------@------.net> wrote:

> Thanks.
> Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
>mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY

AN ENDEMIC SOCIAL DISEASE, A MASK OF SANITY

This introduction to "alien reaction machines" in human form describes
individuals with Anti-Social Personality Disorder (APD), Sociopaths,
and Psychopaths.

(In referring to these entities below, I use "that" instead of "who"
to reinforce the distinction between machine-like reactions and normal
human behavior.)

There is considerable overlap of symptoms as medical researchers have
refined the classifications. One of the links below provides detailed
distinctions among these definitions. It also includes an extensive
bibliography. In this essay, next, however, the older, generic term
"psychopath" is used.

A psychopath is a person who appears normal on the surface, until
he/she performs some outrageous criminal act. At that point it has
been customary to label the behavior as temporary "insanity", but that
is a legal term, not a medical one. The prison psychiatric hospital
environment greatly reduces the options for the new patient to make
the kind of independent decisions that caused the original trouble in
open society. In this controlled environment he/she appears normal,
shows no overt signs of psychosis, passes all probing tests with
flying colors, and is discharged as "cured". On the street again, more
crimes are committed, and the cycle repeats. Thus, these individuals
fall through the cracks between law and medicine.

Most people, including judges and juries, are still unable to make the
distinction that not all prison inmates are psychopaths and not all
antisocial individuals are convicted criminals. The links below can be
confusing unless one is aware that the label "psychopathic
personality" was the original descriptive term for today's aggressive
"antisocial personality". The new euphemism is an obfuscation of an
unpleasant truth about people we are forced to deal with on a daily
basis. It is difficult for all of us, especially when associating with
disruptive school children, whose unearned "self esteem" must be
protected at all costs. In the literature one can expect to see both
the new and the old terms, without much distinction between them.

Western industrial civilization has developed a complex set of rules
of behavior for its citizens. These rules have evolved from the need
for cooperative organization in order to produce the goods and
services actually needed by society for minimum survival as a group,
and also to produce the intangible benefits that make that survival
tolerable for the individual. It makes most sense to reserve the
greatest rewards to those individuals who produce the most goods and
services of the highest quality. Most people understand they need
specialized training for any role above some minimum level, and they
must compete for that training, and later compete on the job itself.
They understand that the need for group survival dictates the rules of
the game, and they must not disrupt the group process by
uncooperative, dishonest, unethical, or violent behavior, or flagrant
violation of the rules.

Psychopaths believe they are "entitled" to the lifestyle benefits of
Western Civilization that most people only hope for as a potential
reward for outstanding job performance, organizational loyalty, and
smooth cooperation with other members of a team. Psychopaths can't or
won't work at the high performance level that might logically provide
upscale benefits. At a lower level where they might be more qualified,
they feel that any menial, boring, dirty, or disgusting WORK is
"beneath" them. Thus, whether at a high level or low level, any
meaningful, honest "work" is a dirty word to a psychopath.

With extraordinary assistance from motivated parents, some more
intelligent, but still antisocial people can and do gravitate to
higher-paid management, politics, or the professions, where power and
prestige can be significant ego enhancers. However, they are always
"close to the edge" emotionally, and are likely to abuse ---, drugs,
and alcohol. Also, they may tend to "seek out" excuses to deliberately
over-indulge, in order to remove temporarily the stifling "mask of
sanity" that never quite fits. Then, when "under the influence" they
are more likely to exhibit aggressive, violent, and/or bizarre
behavior in inappropriate public places. This odd behavior is the key
classic sign of acute dysfunction. Some reference books provide
fascinating case histories describing typical incidents.

When one realizes that the antisocial syndrome is pervasive in today's
society, what protection is available to the average adult citizen?
How can one know the alien body snatcher before any actual overt
criminal act? There are two simple test tools available to any
perceptive, educated adult: The tools are contrived casual
conversation and unobtrusive observation. With these tools one can
make a simple first screening test to possibly rule out psychopathic
personality in public officials or others:

The psychopath is a dangerously clever "alien reaction machine" that
has practiced giving all the correct answers. However, much of that
verbal practice will have taken place in institutions or in
dysfunctional families in lower-class neighborhoods. When those same
answers are given in upscale surroundings, they come out as contrived
falsehoods.

Another clue is that the alien machine will not take responsibility,
but will tend to "blame others" for misfortunes with drugs, sexual
partners, bosses, co- workers, authorities, or whatever. Also, the
full-blown psychopath is NEVER altruistic or ethical (except by
accident), but may be shrewd enough to pretend altruism as sham
behavior (to attract votes). By accepting a psychopath's statements at
face value, without cross- checking public records or other sources, a
careless or inattentive interviewer can fail to pick up on the
frequent lies. For example, to trip up corrupt politicians or
self-described "experts", sometimes it is only necessary to compare
two different answers to the same or similar questions repeated on two
or more different occasions, without involving external sources at
all. Any pattern of lies will stand out as outside the norm of ethical
conduct. By itself, this discrepancy is insufficient to classify the
individual as antisocial, but it is an indication that other tests
should be made.
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