ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
09-19-2007, 10:32 AM
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Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
Tracie wrote:
> On Sep 19, 12:25 am, Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> If going to the moon is the goal, then perhaps one might need the longer
>>> distance and time to get a more accurate picture of actual speed. It is my
>>> humble opinion -- and you should recall that humility is not my strong
>>> suit -- is that repeating several single miles gives a pretty good picture
>> You make life complicated - do the same calculation you did for one mile and
>> divide the result by 5. The reasons I usually use a longer stretch are a.
>> there is one just south of town here on the interstate and b. when you
>> drive an 87 Comanche with over 180k on the clock at 6500' elevation and a
>> 5-spd gearbox in front of 307's speed control is a tad hit or miss.<G>.
>> Turns out, my result with 235/75R15's was exactly 7% slow - enough to get
>> you a ticket in most states where the speed limit is 75. Besides, I was
>> already bored with the trip and still hadn't reached to Colorado border
>> when the destination was South Texas.
>>
>> As an aside, the highest mileage I ever got for long trips in that Comanche
>> was 27 mpg. Colorado Springs -> Abilene, TX using 5th gear (2250 RPM) and a
>> 40 kt tail wind all the way. Believe it or not, the second highest was 25.5
>> mpg CS to Billing, MT into a 35 kt wind running 4th gear and 2700 RPM all
>> the way - go figure.
>>
>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer.
Thanks for the follow up and info.
It would seem your watch method was pretty close eh.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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> On Sep 19, 12:25 am, Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> If going to the moon is the goal, then perhaps one might need the longer
>>> distance and time to get a more accurate picture of actual speed. It is my
>>> humble opinion -- and you should recall that humility is not my strong
>>> suit -- is that repeating several single miles gives a pretty good picture
>> You make life complicated - do the same calculation you did for one mile and
>> divide the result by 5. The reasons I usually use a longer stretch are a.
>> there is one just south of town here on the interstate and b. when you
>> drive an 87 Comanche with over 180k on the clock at 6500' elevation and a
>> 5-spd gearbox in front of 307's speed control is a tad hit or miss.<G>.
>> Turns out, my result with 235/75R15's was exactly 7% slow - enough to get
>> you a ticket in most states where the speed limit is 75. Besides, I was
>> already bored with the trip and still hadn't reached to Colorado border
>> when the destination was South Texas.
>>
>> As an aside, the highest mileage I ever got for long trips in that Comanche
>> was 27 mpg. Colorado Springs -> Abilene, TX using 5th gear (2250 RPM) and a
>> 40 kt tail wind all the way. Believe it or not, the second highest was 25.5
>> mpg CS to Billing, MT into a 35 kt wind running 4th gear and 2700 RPM all
>> the way - go figure.
>>
>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer.
Thanks for the follow up and info.
It would seem your watch method was pretty close eh.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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09-19-2007, 10:32 AM
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Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
Tracie wrote:
> On Sep 19, 12:25 am, Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> If going to the moon is the goal, then perhaps one might need the longer
>>> distance and time to get a more accurate picture of actual speed. It is my
>>> humble opinion -- and you should recall that humility is not my strong
>>> suit -- is that repeating several single miles gives a pretty good picture
>> You make life complicated - do the same calculation you did for one mile and
>> divide the result by 5. The reasons I usually use a longer stretch are a.
>> there is one just south of town here on the interstate and b. when you
>> drive an 87 Comanche with over 180k on the clock at 6500' elevation and a
>> 5-spd gearbox in front of 307's speed control is a tad hit or miss.<G>.
>> Turns out, my result with 235/75R15's was exactly 7% slow - enough to get
>> you a ticket in most states where the speed limit is 75. Besides, I was
>> already bored with the trip and still hadn't reached to Colorado border
>> when the destination was South Texas.
>>
>> As an aside, the highest mileage I ever got for long trips in that Comanche
>> was 27 mpg. Colorado Springs -> Abilene, TX using 5th gear (2250 RPM) and a
>> 40 kt tail wind all the way. Believe it or not, the second highest was 25.5
>> mpg CS to Billing, MT into a 35 kt wind running 4th gear and 2700 RPM all
>> the way - go figure.
>>
>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer.
Thanks for the follow up and info.
It would seem your watch method was pretty close eh.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> On Sep 19, 12:25 am, Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> If going to the moon is the goal, then perhaps one might need the longer
>>> distance and time to get a more accurate picture of actual speed. It is my
>>> humble opinion -- and you should recall that humility is not my strong
>>> suit -- is that repeating several single miles gives a pretty good picture
>> You make life complicated - do the same calculation you did for one mile and
>> divide the result by 5. The reasons I usually use a longer stretch are a.
>> there is one just south of town here on the interstate and b. when you
>> drive an 87 Comanche with over 180k on the clock at 6500' elevation and a
>> 5-spd gearbox in front of 307's speed control is a tad hit or miss.<G>.
>> Turns out, my result with 235/75R15's was exactly 7% slow - enough to get
>> you a ticket in most states where the speed limit is 75. Besides, I was
>> already bored with the trip and still hadn't reached to Colorado border
>> when the destination was South Texas.
>>
>> As an aside, the highest mileage I ever got for long trips in that Comanche
>> was 27 mpg. Colorado Springs -> Abilene, TX using 5th gear (2250 RPM) and a
>> 40 kt tail wind all the way. Believe it or not, the second highest was 25.5
>> mpg CS to Billing, MT into a 35 kt wind running 4th gear and 2700 RPM all
>> the way - go figure.
>>
>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer.
Thanks for the follow up and info.
It would seem your watch method was pretty close eh.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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09-19-2007, 10:32 AM
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Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
Tracie wrote:
> On Sep 19, 12:25 am, Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> If going to the moon is the goal, then perhaps one might need the longer
>>> distance and time to get a more accurate picture of actual speed. It is my
>>> humble opinion -- and you should recall that humility is not my strong
>>> suit -- is that repeating several single miles gives a pretty good picture
>> You make life complicated - do the same calculation you did for one mile and
>> divide the result by 5. The reasons I usually use a longer stretch are a.
>> there is one just south of town here on the interstate and b. when you
>> drive an 87 Comanche with over 180k on the clock at 6500' elevation and a
>> 5-spd gearbox in front of 307's speed control is a tad hit or miss.<G>.
>> Turns out, my result with 235/75R15's was exactly 7% slow - enough to get
>> you a ticket in most states where the speed limit is 75. Besides, I was
>> already bored with the trip and still hadn't reached to Colorado border
>> when the destination was South Texas.
>>
>> As an aside, the highest mileage I ever got for long trips in that Comanche
>> was 27 mpg. Colorado Springs -> Abilene, TX using 5th gear (2250 RPM) and a
>> 40 kt tail wind all the way. Believe it or not, the second highest was 25.5
>> mpg CS to Billing, MT into a 35 kt wind running 4th gear and 2700 RPM all
>> the way - go figure.
>>
>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer.
Thanks for the follow up and info.
It would seem your watch method was pretty close eh.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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> On Sep 19, 12:25 am, Will Honea <who...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Jeff Strickland wrote:
>>> If going to the moon is the goal, then perhaps one might need the longer
>>> distance and time to get a more accurate picture of actual speed. It is my
>>> humble opinion -- and you should recall that humility is not my strong
>>> suit -- is that repeating several single miles gives a pretty good picture
>> You make life complicated - do the same calculation you did for one mile and
>> divide the result by 5. The reasons I usually use a longer stretch are a.
>> there is one just south of town here on the interstate and b. when you
>> drive an 87 Comanche with over 180k on the clock at 6500' elevation and a
>> 5-spd gearbox in front of 307's speed control is a tad hit or miss.<G>.
>> Turns out, my result with 235/75R15's was exactly 7% slow - enough to get
>> you a ticket in most states where the speed limit is 75. Besides, I was
>> already bored with the trip and still hadn't reached to Colorado border
>> when the destination was South Texas.
>>
>> As an aside, the highest mileage I ever got for long trips in that Comanche
>> was 27 mpg. Colorado Springs -> Abilene, TX using 5th gear (2250 RPM) and a
>> 40 kt tail wind all the way. Believe it or not, the second highest was 25.5
>> mpg CS to Billing, MT into a 35 kt wind running 4th gear and 2700 RPM all
>> the way - go figure.
>>
>> --
>> Will Honea
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer.
Thanks for the follow up and info.
It would seem your watch method was pretty close eh.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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09-19-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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09-19-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
Thanks.
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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09-19-2007, 05:10 PM
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Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
Thanks.
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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Thanks.
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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"Tracie" <brainart@upstate.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Well, back from the dealership. I found out my speedo was actually
> off approximately 6 mph. To my surprise, they do not change out the
> actual speedo gear anymore. It is all done by changing the tire size
> in the vehicle's computer. I also asked them to turn my steering from
> side to side in full wheel lock while it was there to see if I had any
> rubbing with the new bigger tires. According to them, I did not have
> any at all. Again to my surprise. Well, the surprises kept
> coming....I got ready to pick up my Jeep, they handed me my keys and a
> copy of the work performed and said I was "all set". So I went to the
> cashier to find out what I owed, and she told me "nothing". So, I
> saved myselft approximately $40.00 yesterday.
>
> Here's the kicker -- I took my car to a different dealership other
> than where I bought it because it was easier (and closer) for me when
> I got out of work. Plus they have evening hours for service. The
> dealership that I bought it from was going to charge me $40.00 to
> recalibrate the speedo. How do you like that? You would think it
> would have been the other way around (the place where I bought it
> wouldn't have charged me). I was literally in and out in 15 minutes.
>
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09-19-2007, 07:07 PM
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c wrote:
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will
>>>>>>>>> wear out
>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>>>>>> -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-
>>>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane
>>>>> to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to
>>>>> go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The
>>>>> goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least
>>>>> amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now where I live, 87
>>>>> and 89 are the same price for whatever reason, so I just use the 89
>>>>> octane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around here
>>>> had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with up to
>>>> 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the prices
>>>> anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have no clue
>>>> how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one jug runs
>>>> out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to pay
>>> more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it just
>>> runs like crap in my truck.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if you
>> actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>
>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have to.
>> I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>> probably for a different thread.
>>
>
> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it at
> least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my situation
> right now tells me not to take on any new projects because I am planning
> on relocating overseas soon.
>
> Chris
I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods, looks very stock from outside
'07 Commander
'94 Land Rover Defender 90 POE #1500
'04 Audi S4
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will
>>>>>>>>> wear out
>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>>>>>> -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-
>>>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane
>>>>> to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to
>>>>> go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The
>>>>> goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least
>>>>> amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now where I live, 87
>>>>> and 89 are the same price for whatever reason, so I just use the 89
>>>>> octane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around here
>>>> had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with up to
>>>> 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the prices
>>>> anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have no clue
>>>> how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one jug runs
>>>> out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to pay
>>> more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it just
>>> runs like crap in my truck.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if you
>> actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>
>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have to.
>> I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>> probably for a different thread.
>>
>
> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it at
> least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my situation
> right now tells me not to take on any new projects because I am planning
> on relocating overseas soon.
>
> Chris
I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods, looks very stock from outside
'07 Commander
'94 Land Rover Defender 90 POE #1500
'04 Audi S4
09-19-2007, 07:07 PM
#219
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
c wrote:
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will
>>>>>>>>> wear out
>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>>>>>> -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-
>>>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane
>>>>> to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to
>>>>> go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The
>>>>> goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least
>>>>> amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now where I live, 87
>>>>> and 89 are the same price for whatever reason, so I just use the 89
>>>>> octane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around here
>>>> had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with up to
>>>> 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the prices
>>>> anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have no clue
>>>> how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one jug runs
>>>> out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to pay
>>> more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it just
>>> runs like crap in my truck.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if you
>> actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>
>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have to.
>> I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>> probably for a different thread.
>>
>
> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it at
> least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my situation
> right now tells me not to take on any new projects because I am planning
> on relocating overseas soon.
>
> Chris
I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods, looks very stock from outside
'07 Commander
'94 Land Rover Defender 90 POE #1500
'04 Audi S4
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will
>>>>>>>>> wear out
>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>>>>>> -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-
>>>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane
>>>>> to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to
>>>>> go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The
>>>>> goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least
>>>>> amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now where I live, 87
>>>>> and 89 are the same price for whatever reason, so I just use the 89
>>>>> octane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around here
>>>> had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with up to
>>>> 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the prices
>>>> anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have no clue
>>>> how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one jug runs
>>>> out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to pay
>>> more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it just
>>> runs like crap in my truck.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if you
>> actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>
>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have to.
>> I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>> probably for a different thread.
>>
>
> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it at
> least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my situation
> right now tells me not to take on any new projects because I am planning
> on relocating overseas soon.
>
> Chris
I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods, looks very stock from outside
'07 Commander
'94 Land Rover Defender 90 POE #1500
'04 Audi S4
09-19-2007, 07:07 PM
#220
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: ACCURATE SPEEDOMETER?
c wrote:
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will
>>>>>>>>> wear out
>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>>>>>> -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-
>>>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane
>>>>> to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to
>>>>> go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The
>>>>> goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least
>>>>> amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now where I live, 87
>>>>> and 89 are the same price for whatever reason, so I just use the 89
>>>>> octane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around here
>>>> had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with up to
>>>> 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the prices
>>>> anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have no clue
>>>> how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one jug runs
>>>> out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to pay
>>> more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it just
>>> runs like crap in my truck.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if you
>> actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>
>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have to.
>> I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>> probably for a different thread.
>>
>
> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it at
> least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my situation
> right now tells me not to take on any new projects because I am planning
> on relocating overseas soon.
>
> Chris
I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods, looks very stock from outside
'07 Commander
'94 Land Rover Defender 90 POE #1500
'04 Audi S4
> peachyracer > wrote:
>> c wrote:
>>> peachyracer > wrote:
>>>> c wrote:
>>>>> Tracie wrote:
>>>>>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on
>>>>>>>>> my truck
>>>>>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will
>>>>>>>>> wear out
>>>>>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on
>>>>>>>>> the lugging
>>>>>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit
>>>>>>>>> here and
>>>>>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning
>>>>>>>>> 3000 RPM as
>>>>>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>>>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>>>>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>>>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>>>>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>>>>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was
>>>>>>>> using
>>>>>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is
>>>>>>>> determined
>>>>>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>>>>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>>>>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>>>>>> baseball bat.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss
>>>>>>> Pearl"
>>>>>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>>>>>> -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com-
>>>>>>> Hide quoted text -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>>>>>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane
>>>>>> instead of
>>>>>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep
>>>>> will be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane
>>>>> to do the job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to
>>>>> go. If not, you can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The
>>>>> goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least
>>>>> amount of money, and no engine damage. Right now where I live, 87
>>>>> and 89 are the same price for whatever reason, so I just use the 89
>>>>> octane.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>> I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around here
>>>> had 87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with up to
>>>> 10% of that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the prices
>>>> anymore; if I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have no clue
>>>> how much a gallon of milk is. I just know that when one jug runs
>>>> out, I need to buy another. I do look at ethanol content though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well, we are almost neighbors! Actually I'm an hour north of GB. My
>>> truck doesn't mind the ethanol mixed fuel like some vehicles do, so
>>> when I can get 89 octane for the same price as 87 I do. I have to pay
>>> more attention to which stations I buy my gas from. Some of it just
>>> runs like crap in my truck.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>
>> I remembered you saying you were going to northern WI to look at a
>> Jeep a while back and I told you I'd race you to it when I took my
>> kids up to Lac du Flambeau to my parents cottage. I didn't see if you
>> actually picked up the Jeep or not though.
>>
>> My stuff runs okay with the ethanol, but I buy it only when I have to.
>> I just have a philosophical problem with it, but I guess that's
>> probably for a different thread.
>>
>
> Well, the Jeep is still there, but I think I am going to pass on it at
> least for now. It is worth what the guy wants for it, but my situation
> right now tells me not to take on any new projects because I am planning
> on relocating overseas soon.
>
> Chris
I hope all works out well on that endeavor. Good luck!
--
Pete
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods, looks very stock from outside
'07 Commander
'94 Land Rover Defender 90 POE #1500
'04 Audi S4