c

Tracie wrote:
> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear out
>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the lugging
>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000 RPM as
>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>> -----------------
>>> TheSnoMan.com
>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>> baseball bat.
>> --
>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!"
>> '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
>> '95 YJ Rio Grande
>> BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>
>> --
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>
> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane instead of
> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89 and
> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>

Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep will
be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane to do the
job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to go. If not, you
can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The goal in the end is
to get the most distance traveled with the least amount of money, and no
engine damage. Right now where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for
whatever reason, so I just use the 89 octane.

Chris

twaldron

c wrote:
> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least amount of money
>
> Chris


You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
in relation to the automobile. :)

tw

twaldron

c wrote:
> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least amount of money
>
> Chris


You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
in relation to the automobile. :)

tw

twaldron

c wrote:
> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least amount of money
>
> Chris


You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
in relation to the automobile. :)

tw

twaldron

c wrote:
> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the least amount of money
>
> Chris


You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
in relation to the automobile. :)

tw

c

twaldron wrote:
> c wrote:
>> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the
>> least amount of money
>>
>> Chris
>
>
> You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
> in relation to the automobile. :)
>
> tw

I feel your pain my friend.

Chris

c

twaldron wrote:
> c wrote:
>> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the
>> least amount of money
>>
>> Chris
>
>
> You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
> in relation to the automobile. :)
>
> tw

I feel your pain my friend.

Chris

c

twaldron wrote:
> c wrote:
>> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the
>> least amount of money
>>
>> Chris
>
>
> You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
> in relation to the automobile. :)
>
> tw

I feel your pain my friend.

Chris

c

twaldron wrote:
> c wrote:
>> The goal in the end is to get the most distance traveled with the
>> least amount of money
>>
>> Chris
>
>
> You know, this goal description is the polar opposite of my entire life
> in relation to the automobile. :)
>
> tw

I feel your pain my friend.

Chris

peachyracer

c wrote:
> Tracie wrote:
>> On Sep 18, 6:10 am, Old Crow <wallisc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:53:07 -0400, SnoMan <ad...@snoman.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 12:52:55 -0500, c <c...@me.org> wrote:
>>>>> Um, your statement is quite wrong. For instance, overdrive on my truck
>>>>> reduces the RPM by 30% so yeah I am pretty sure my engine will wear
>>>>> out
>>>>> sooner if I choose to never use it. I will agree with you on the
>>>>> lugging
>>>>> part, especially if it causes pinging, but no, I will not sit here and
>>>>> agree with you that my engine will last just as long turning 3000
>>>>> RPM as
>>>>> it does turning 2100 RPM. That's insane.
>>>> Gee how did I put close to 200K and a few 4x4's 20 to 30 years ago
>>>> with 4.10 and 4.56 gears and no OD???? RPM as long as it is not
>>>> excessive (like 4000 to 5000 RPM cruises ) will not shorten life at
>>>> all. 2500 RPM or cruise for a V8 is childs play. How about a Toyota
>>>> that when 220K with a 3000 to 3500 RPM cruise and more and was using
>>>> a quart maybe every 3500 miles then. Also true RPM drop is determined
>>>> by OD ratio and to get a 30% drop you need a .7 (like on a 700R4 or
>>>> 4L60 or .69 on a Ally 5 speed)
>>>> -----------------
>>>> TheSnoMan.com
>>> Hey Snow, look out! There's another dead horse. Better get your
>>> baseball bat.
>>> --
>>> Old Crow "Yol Bolson!" '82 FLTC-P "Miss Pearl"
>>> '95 YJ Rio Grande BS#133, SENS, TOMKAT, MAMBM
>>> --
>>> Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com- Hide
>>> quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> Thanks Chris. That was helpful. :)
>> I will just have to remember to fill my tank with 89 octane instead of
>> 87. Is there much of a difference in effectiveness between the 89 and
>> 93 as far as pinging is concerned?
>>
>
> Well, the higher the octane, the more resistant to ping your Jeep will
> be, but the question remains whether or not you need 93 octane to do the
> job. If the 89 octane eliminates it, then you're good to go. If not, you
> can try a 50/50 mix of 89 and 93 or try all 93. The goal in the end is
> to get the most distance traveled with the least amount of money, and no
> engine damage. Right now where I live, 87 and 89 are the same price for
> whatever reason, so I just use the 89 octane.
>
> Chris

Hi Chris,
I live just south of Green Bay, and the Kwik Trip stores around here had
87 and 89 at the same price, but the 89 was blended with up to 10% of
that ethanol crap (imo). I don't really look at the prices anymore; if
I need gas, I buy gas. It's like milk. I have no clue how much a
gallon of milk is. I just know that when one jug runs out, I need to
buy another. I do look at ethanol content though.

--
Pete (AKA Peter Stolz)
'84 CJ-7 with a bunch of engine mods, looks very stock from outside
'07 Commander
'94 Land Rover Defender 90 POE #1500
'04 Audi S4