Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result is
that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are easily researched at dot and sae] Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go. philthy proclaimed: > a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without > > Ivan Jager wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has >>ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes >>manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It >>appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad >>to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have >>removed the fuse? >> >>On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of >>experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather. >>There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few >>chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it >>stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the >>pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can >>handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I >>thought it's worth asking. >> >>Thanks, >>Ivan > > |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result > is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly > worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution > to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of > physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are > easily researched at dot and sae] > > Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without > ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go. ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the problem. -- DougW |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result > is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly > worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution > to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of > physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are > easily researched at dot and sae] > > Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without > ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go. ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the problem. -- DougW |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result > is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly > worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution > to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of > physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are > easily researched at dot and sae] > > Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without > ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go. ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the problem. -- DougW |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Lon wrote:
> Bullcrap. First most folks don't know how to use ABS, and the result > is that vehicle with ABS, due to driver stupidity, have a slightly > worse accident rate than vehicles without it. A small contribution > to that statistic is drivers who believe ABS overrules the laws of > physics and think ABS will stop you instantly. [Both of these are > easily researched at dot and sae] > > Second, on some surfaces ABS cannot stop as fast as wedging without > ABS. Those surfaces are where jeeps tend to go. ABS can also cause a "run away" situation on downhill. Nearly bit it on a steep downhill dirt trail when the brakes refused to brake. After that experience I always take the fuse out. Eventually I want to put in a bypass switch inside the cab. Now ABS is great on ice and on wet pavement. Providing you know it's so you can steer around the problem. -- DougW |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or is > it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to > industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free and > accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now, > wow, that would be real safe. > > Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it > wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake > lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner > used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot to > plug the fuse back in one time. > > Earle |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or is > it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to > industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free and > accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now, > wow, that would be real safe. > > Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it > wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake > lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner > used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot to > plug the fuse back in one time. > > Earle |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or is > it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to > industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free and > accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now, > wow, that would be real safe. > > Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it > wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake > lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner > used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot to > plug the fuse back in one time. > > Earle |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
Hi Earle,
I wonder how many follow their maintenance guide and flush their brake fluid at sixty thousand: http://www.----------.com/WJLubeSchedule.jpg God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- "Earle Horton" <el_anglo_burgues@usa.com> wrote in message news:45c5fc2c$0$21713$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > Do you have any statistics or even anecdotal evidence to back that up, or is > it just something you pulled out of your butt and blind allegiance to > industry propaganda? I have driven a few hundred thousand trouble-free and > accident-free miles without ABS. If I could be even safer than I am now, > wow, that would be real safe. > > Ivan, plug in the fuse and see what happens. With a vehicle this old, it > wouldn't hurt to flush the brake fluid and do a visual inspection of brake > lines, pads, shoes, sensors, sensor wires, etc. Maybe the previous owner > used the vehicle on gravel roads or did some off roading, and just forgot to > plug the fuse back in one time. > > Earle |
Re: ABS disabled on XJ
If you don't have to stop for stop signs in the snow:
http://www.4x4abc.com/4WD101/ABS_offroad.html God Bless America, Bill 0|||||||0 mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/ "philthy" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message news:45C5F13C.F376F00E@cac.net... > a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without |
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