Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

Ivan Jager wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS
>> controller which should be located somewhere under the master
>> cylinder. It'll look like a metal box that the brake lines run into.
>> If it's there, you have ABS. If you only have brake lines running
>> from the MC to the undercarriage, you don't.
>
> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each
> front wheel, and one towards the back. I'm guessing that means no
> ABS. There is a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power
> brakes.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/brake.htm

--
DougW

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, DougW wrote:
> Ivan Jager wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS
>>> controller which should be located somewhere under the master
>>> cylinder. It'll look like a metal box that the brake lines run into.
>>> If it's there, you have ABS. If you only have brake lines running
>>> from the MC to the undercarriage, you don't.
>>
>> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
>> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
>> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each
>> front wheel, and one towards the back. I'm guessing that means no
>> ABS. There is a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power
>> brakes.
>
> http://auto.howstuffworks.com/brake.htm

Ok, yeah, no ABS then.

Thanks for the help,
Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, DougW wrote:
> Ivan Jager wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS
>>> controller which should be located somewhere under the master
>>> cylinder. It'll look like a metal box that the brake lines run into.
>>> If it's there, you have ABS. If you only have brake lines running
>>> from the MC to the undercarriage, you don't.
>>
>> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
>> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
>> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each
>> front wheel, and one towards the back. I'm guessing that means no
>> ABS. There is a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power
>> brakes.
>
> http://auto.howstuffworks.com/brake.htm

Ok, yeah, no ABS then.

Thanks for the help,
Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, DougW wrote:
> Ivan Jager wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS
>>> controller which should be located somewhere under the master
>>> cylinder. It'll look like a metal box that the brake lines run into.
>>> If it's there, you have ABS. If you only have brake lines running
>>> from the MC to the undercarriage, you don't.
>>
>> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
>> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
>> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each
>> front wheel, and one towards the back. I'm guessing that means no
>> ABS. There is a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power
>> brakes.
>
> http://auto.howstuffworks.com/brake.htm

Ok, yeah, no ABS then.

Thanks for the help,
Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, DougW wrote:
> Ivan Jager wrote:
>> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS
>>> controller which should be located somewhere under the master
>>> cylinder. It'll look like a metal box that the brake lines run into.
>>> If it's there, you have ABS. If you only have brake lines running
>>> from the MC to the undercarriage, you don't.
>>
>> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
>> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
>> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each
>> front wheel, and one towards the back. I'm guessing that means no
>> ABS. There is a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power
>> brakes.
>
> http://auto.howstuffworks.com/brake.htm

Ok, yeah, no ABS then.

Thanks for the help,
Ivan

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.61-042.0702021924560.16709@unix33.andrew.cmu.edu...
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS controller
>> which
>> should be located somewhere under the master cylinder. It'll look like a
>> metal box that the brake lines run into. If it's there, you have ABS. If
>> you only have brake lines running from the MC to the undercarriage, you
>> don't.
>
> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each front
> wheel, and one towards the back.

That's the proportioning valve. The ABS controller is bigger with a larger
wiring harness connected.

I'm guessing that means no ABS. There is
> a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power brakes.

Yep.

>
>> If there is no ABS fuse and there is no ABS light lit up on the dash, I
>> would suspect you in fact do not have ABS. ABS was optional that year
>> according to kbb.com.
>
> Yeah, that's why I asked the guy. He said he would check, and then later
> he said it did have ABS.
>
>> PS Haynes manuals suck.
>
> I saw they had a different manual at Advance Auto. Don't remember what it
> was called. Is that any better?

Probably a Chiltons. They suck too.

Factory Service Manual is what you need.

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.61-042.0702021924560.16709@unix33.andrew.cmu.edu...
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS controller
>> which
>> should be located somewhere under the master cylinder. It'll look like a
>> metal box that the brake lines run into. If it's there, you have ABS. If
>> you only have brake lines running from the MC to the undercarriage, you
>> don't.
>
> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each front
> wheel, and one towards the back.

That's the proportioning valve. The ABS controller is bigger with a larger
wiring harness connected.

I'm guessing that means no ABS. There is
> a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power brakes.

Yep.

>
>> If there is no ABS fuse and there is no ABS light lit up on the dash, I
>> would suspect you in fact do not have ABS. ABS was optional that year
>> according to kbb.com.
>
> Yeah, that's why I asked the guy. He said he would check, and then later
> he said it did have ABS.
>
>> PS Haynes manuals suck.
>
> I saw they had a different manual at Advance Auto. Don't remember what it
> was called. Is that any better?

Probably a Chiltons. They suck too.

Factory Service Manual is what you need.

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.61-042.0702021924560.16709@unix33.andrew.cmu.edu...
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS controller
>> which
>> should be located somewhere under the master cylinder. It'll look like a
>> metal box that the brake lines run into. If it's there, you have ABS. If
>> you only have brake lines running from the MC to the undercarriage, you
>> don't.
>
> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each front
> wheel, and one towards the back.

That's the proportioning valve. The ABS controller is bigger with a larger
wiring harness connected.

I'm guessing that means no ABS. There is
> a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power brakes.

Yep.

>
>> If there is no ABS fuse and there is no ABS light lit up on the dash, I
>> would suspect you in fact do not have ABS. ABS was optional that year
>> according to kbb.com.
>
> Yeah, that's why I asked the guy. He said he would check, and then later
> he said it did have ABS.
>
>> PS Haynes manuals suck.
>
> I saw they had a different manual at Advance Auto. Don't remember what it
> was called. Is that any better?

Probably a Chiltons. They suck too.

Factory Service Manual is what you need.

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

"Ivan Jager" <aij+nospam@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote in message
news:Pine.LNX.4.61-042.0702021924560.16709@unix33.andrew.cmu.edu...
> On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
>> The brake reservior isn't the issue with ABS, it's the ABS controller
>> which
>> should be located somewhere under the master cylinder. It'll look like a
>> metal box that the brake lines run into. If it's there, you have ABS. If
>> you only have brake lines running from the MC to the undercarriage, you
>> don't.
>
> I meant to take pictures, but forgot. There is a small metal box with
> brake lines running into it, but it doesn't look like much more than a
> splitter of sorts. There are 3 lines running out, one towards each front
> wheel, and one towards the back.

That's the proportioning valve. The ABS controller is bigger with a larger
wiring harness connected.

I'm guessing that means no ABS. There is
> a big cylindrical thing I'm guessing is just for power brakes.

Yep.

>
>> If there is no ABS fuse and there is no ABS light lit up on the dash, I
>> would suspect you in fact do not have ABS. ABS was optional that year
>> according to kbb.com.
>
> Yeah, that's why I asked the guy. He said he would check, and then later
> he said it did have ABS.
>
>> PS Haynes manuals suck.
>
> I saw they had a different manual at Advance Auto. Don't remember what it
> was called. Is that any better?

Probably a Chiltons. They suck too.

Factory Service Manual is what you need.

Re: ABS disabled on XJ
 

a vehicle with working abs is far safer to drive than one without

Ivan Jager wrote:

> Hi,
>
> In December, I bought a '98 XJ 4.0L. The guy who sold it to me said it has
> ABS, and the brake fluid reservoir looks like the ones in the Haynes
> manual for cars with ABS. The problem seems to be in the fusebox. It
> appears someone has taken out the fuse for ABS. Could I cause anything bad
> to happen by replacing the fuse? Is there any reason someone would have
> removed the fuse?
>
> On a somewhat related note, do I want ABS on a Jeep? I have plenty of
> experience driving without ABS, but only a few winters in cold weather.
> There hasn't been much snow in Pittsburgh this winter, but I got a few
> chances to test the Jeep on lightly packed or freshly fallen snow and it
> stops remarkably well. (At first I thought they had gotten rid of the
> pulsing feeling in ABS.) I suspect I do want ABS if only because it can
> handle cases where the traction is different on the right and left. But I
> thought it's worth asking.
>
> Thanks,
> Ivan