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bspear78 06-05-2007 10:18 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>
> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>
> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
> of codes.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> bspear78 wrote:
> > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks

>
> > Bryan
> > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks,

The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?

and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
position sensor?










bspear78 06-05-2007 10:18 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>
> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>
> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
> of codes.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> bspear78 wrote:
> > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks

>
> > Bryan
> > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks,

The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?

and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
position sensor?










bspear78 06-05-2007 10:18 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>
> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>
> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
> of codes.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> bspear78 wrote:
> > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks

>
> > Bryan
> > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks,

The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?

and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
position sensor?










Frank_v7.0 06-05-2007 10:44 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>>
>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>>
>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
>> of codes.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> bspear78 wrote:
>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>>> Bryan
>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Thanks,
>
> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?
>
> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
> position sensor?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

P0120 TPS Performance
P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity
P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage
P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage
P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent

And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but
it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes).


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 06-05-2007 10:44 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>>
>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>>
>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
>> of codes.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> bspear78 wrote:
>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>>> Bryan
>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Thanks,
>
> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?
>
> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
> position sensor?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

P0120 TPS Performance
P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity
P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage
P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage
P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent

And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but
it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes).


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 06-05-2007 10:44 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>>
>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>>
>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
>> of codes.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> bspear78 wrote:
>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>>> Bryan
>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Thanks,
>
> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?
>
> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
> position sensor?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

P0120 TPS Performance
P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity
P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage
P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage
P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent

And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but
it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes).


--
FRH

Frank_v7.0 06-05-2007 10:44 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>>
>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>>
>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
>> of codes.
>>
>> Mike
>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>
>>
>>
>> bspear78 wrote:
>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>>> Bryan
>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Thanks,
>
> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?
>
> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
> position sensor?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

P0120 TPS Performance
P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity
P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage
P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage
P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent

And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but
it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes).


--
FRH

Mike Romain 06-05-2007 11:13 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> bspear78 wrote:
>> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
>>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
>>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
>>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
>>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
>>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>>>
>>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
>>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
>>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>>>
>>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
>>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
>>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
>>> of codes.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bspear78 wrote:
>>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>>>> Bryan
>>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
>> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?
>>
>> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
>> position sensor?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> P0120 TPS Performance
> P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity
> P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage
> P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage
> P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent
>
> And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but
> it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes).
>
>


You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I
haven't seen them all.

The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc.

Mike

Mike Romain 06-05-2007 11:13 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> bspear78 wrote:
>> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
>>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
>>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
>>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
>>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
>>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>>>
>>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
>>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
>>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>>>
>>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
>>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
>>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
>>> of codes.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bspear78 wrote:
>>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>>>> Bryan
>>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
>> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?
>>
>> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
>> position sensor?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> P0120 TPS Performance
> P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity
> P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage
> P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage
> P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent
>
> And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but
> it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes).
>
>


You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I
haven't seen them all.

The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc.

Mike

Mike Romain 06-05-2007 11:13 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> bspear78 wrote:
>> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
>>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
>>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
>>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
>>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
>>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>>>
>>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
>>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
>>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>>>
>>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
>>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
>>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
>>> of codes.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> bspear78 wrote:
>>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>>>> Bryan
>>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -
>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
>> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?
>>
>> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
>> position sensor?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

> P0120 TPS Performance
> P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity
> P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage
> P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage
> P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent
>
> And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but
> it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes).
>
>


You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I
haven't seen them all.

The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc.

Mike


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