97 tj stalling out in traffic
Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks Bryan 97 TJ |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > >Bryan >97 TJ Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > >Bryan >97 TJ Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > >Bryan >97 TJ Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote: >Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > >Bryan >97 TJ Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue. ----------------- TheSnoMan.com |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end of codes. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) bspear78 wrote: > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > Bryan > 97 TJ > |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end of codes. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) bspear78 wrote: > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > Bryan > 97 TJ > |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end of codes. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) bspear78 wrote: > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > Bryan > 97 TJ > |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end of codes. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) bspear78 wrote: > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > Bryan > 97 TJ > |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift > points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. > The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a > pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to > help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last > ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. > > I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, > especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection > issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. > > Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, > off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, > then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end > of codes. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > bspear78 wrote: > > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > > Bryan > > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks, The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle position sensor? |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift > points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. > The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a > pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to > help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last > ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. > > I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, > especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection > issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. > > Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, > off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, > then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end > of codes. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > bspear78 wrote: > > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > > Bryan > > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks, The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle position sensor? |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift > points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. > The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a > pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to > help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last > ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. > > I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, > especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection > issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. > > Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, > off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, > then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end > of codes. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > bspear78 wrote: > > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > > Bryan > > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks, The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle position sensor? |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift > points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. > The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a > pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to > help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last > ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. > > I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, > especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection > issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. > > Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, > off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, > then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end > of codes. > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > > > bspear78 wrote: > > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj > > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and > > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once > > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go > > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 > > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from > > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. > > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to > > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks > > > Bryan > > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Thanks, The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle position sensor? |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >> >> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >> >> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >> of codes. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> >> >> bspear78 wrote: >>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>> Bryan >>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > Thanks, > > The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic > reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? > > and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle > position sensor? > > > > > > > > > P0120 TPS Performance P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). -- FRH |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >> >> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >> >> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >> of codes. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> >> >> bspear78 wrote: >>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>> Bryan >>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > Thanks, > > The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic > reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? > > and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle > position sensor? > > > > > > > > > P0120 TPS Performance P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). -- FRH |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >> >> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >> >> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >> of codes. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> >> >> bspear78 wrote: >>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>> Bryan >>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > Thanks, > > The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic > reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? > > and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle > position sensor? > > > > > > > > > P0120 TPS Performance P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). -- FRH |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
bspear78 wrote:
> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >> >> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >> >> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >> of codes. >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >> >> >> >> bspear78 wrote: >>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>> Bryan >>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - > > Thanks, > > The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic > reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? > > and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle > position sensor? > > > > > > > > > P0120 TPS Performance P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). -- FRH |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> bspear78 wrote: >> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>> >>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>> >>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>> of codes. >>> >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> >>> >>> >>> bspear78 wrote: >>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>> Bryan >>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Thanks, >> >> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >> >> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >> position sensor? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > P0120 TPS Performance > P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity > P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage > P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage > P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent > > And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but > it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I haven't seen them all. The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. Mike |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> bspear78 wrote: >> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>> >>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>> >>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>> of codes. >>> >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> >>> >>> >>> bspear78 wrote: >>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>> Bryan >>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Thanks, >> >> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >> >> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >> position sensor? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > P0120 TPS Performance > P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity > P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage > P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage > P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent > > And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but > it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I haven't seen them all. The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. Mike |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> bspear78 wrote: >> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>> >>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>> >>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>> of codes. >>> >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> >>> >>> >>> bspear78 wrote: >>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>> Bryan >>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Thanks, >> >> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >> >> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >> position sensor? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > P0120 TPS Performance > P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity > P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage > P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage > P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent > > And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but > it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I haven't seen them all. The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. Mike |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Frank_v7.0 wrote:
> bspear78 wrote: >> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>> >>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>> >>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on, >>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter, >>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>> of codes. >>> >>> Mike >>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>> >>> >>> >>> bspear78 wrote: >>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>> Bryan >>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Thanks, >> >> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >> >> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >> position sensor? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > P0120 TPS Performance > P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity > P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage > P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage > P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent > > And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but > it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I haven't seen them all. The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. Mike |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Mike Romain wrote:
> Frank_v7.0 wrote: >> bspear78 wrote: >>> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>>> >>>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>>> >>>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go >>>> on, >>>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the >>>> starter, >>>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>>> of codes. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bspear78 wrote: >>>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>>> Bryan >>>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >>> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >>> >>> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >>> position sensor? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> P0120 TPS Performance >> P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity >> P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage >> P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage >> P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent >> >> And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but >> it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). >> >> > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I > haven't seen them all. > > The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. > > Mike On my '04 TJ you turn "backwards" to the accessory position (run the radio/tape/CD without having ignition on). Like you said the first turn "forward" just unlocks the steering column. I know I've had some vehicles where the accessory setting was a "forward" turn. I just figured since he had a '97 TJ it would be similar to mine. -- FRH |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Mike Romain wrote:
> Frank_v7.0 wrote: >> bspear78 wrote: >>> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>>> >>>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>>> >>>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go >>>> on, >>>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the >>>> starter, >>>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>>> of codes. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bspear78 wrote: >>>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>>> Bryan >>>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >>> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >>> >>> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >>> position sensor? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> P0120 TPS Performance >> P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity >> P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage >> P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage >> P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent >> >> And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but >> it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). >> >> > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I > haven't seen them all. > > The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. > > Mike On my '04 TJ you turn "backwards" to the accessory position (run the radio/tape/CD without having ignition on). Like you said the first turn "forward" just unlocks the steering column. I know I've had some vehicles where the accessory setting was a "forward" turn. I just figured since he had a '97 TJ it would be similar to mine. -- FRH |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Mike Romain wrote:
> Frank_v7.0 wrote: >> bspear78 wrote: >>> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>>> >>>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>>> >>>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go >>>> on, >>>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the >>>> starter, >>>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>>> of codes. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bspear78 wrote: >>>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>>> Bryan >>>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >>> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >>> >>> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >>> position sensor? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> P0120 TPS Performance >> P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity >> P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage >> P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage >> P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent >> >> And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but >> it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). >> >> > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I > haven't seen them all. > > The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. > > Mike On my '04 TJ you turn "backwards" to the accessory position (run the radio/tape/CD without having ignition on). Like you said the first turn "forward" just unlocks the steering column. I know I've had some vehicles where the accessory setting was a "forward" turn. I just figured since he had a '97 TJ it would be similar to mine. -- FRH |
Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
Mike Romain wrote:
> Frank_v7.0 wrote: >> bspear78 wrote: >>> On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift >>>> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out. >>>> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a >>>> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to >>>> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last >>>> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud. >>>> >>>> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections, >>>> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection >>>> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough. >>>> >>>> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go >>>> on, >>>> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the >>>> starter, >>>> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end >>>> of codes. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >>>> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile... >>>> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >>>> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >>>> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bspear78 wrote: >>>>> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj >>>>> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and >>>>> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once >>>>> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go >>>>> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2 >>>>> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from >>>>> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine. >>>>> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to >>>>> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks >>>>> Bryan >>>>> 97 TJ- Hide quoted text - >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic >>> reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick? >>> >>> and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle >>> position sensor? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> P0120 TPS Performance >> P0121 TPS Sensor Circuit Insufficient Activity >> P0122 TPS Circuit Low Voltage >> P0123 TPS Circuit High Voltage >> P0124 TPS Circuit Intermittent >> >> And I think the key turn sequence is ON-Accessory-ON-Accessory-ON, but >> it's been a while (got a scanner to read fault codes). >> >> > > You turn the key backward to get codes? Not on any I have seen, but I > haven't seen them all. > > The first forward click of the key is just the steering lock off, not Acc. > > Mike On my '04 TJ you turn "backwards" to the accessory position (run the radio/tape/CD without having ignition on). Like you said the first turn "forward" just unlocks the steering column. I know I've had some vehicles where the accessory setting was a "forward" turn. I just figured since he had a '97 TJ it would be similar to mine. -- FRH |
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