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bspear78 06-04-2007 01:29 PM

97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks

Bryan
97 TJ


SnoMan 06-04-2007 02:25 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
>Bryan
>97 TJ



Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to
go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue.
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SnoMan 06-04-2007 02:25 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
>Bryan
>97 TJ



Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to
go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-04-2007 02:25 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
>Bryan
>97 TJ



Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to
go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

SnoMan 06-04-2007 02:25 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:29:47 -0700, bspear78 <bspear78@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
>automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
>sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
>or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
>it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
>places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
>near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
>Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
>take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
>Bryan
>97 TJ



Have you checked/replaced CPS (Crank Position Sensor) They are know to
go bad with age. The tranny slipping in likley another seperate issue.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com

Mike Romain 06-04-2007 02:54 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.

I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.

Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
of codes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

bspear78 wrote:
> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
> Bryan
> 97 TJ
>


Mike Romain 06-04-2007 02:54 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.

I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.

Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
of codes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

bspear78 wrote:
> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
> Bryan
> 97 TJ
>


Mike Romain 06-04-2007 02:54 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.

I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.

Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
of codes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

bspear78 wrote:
> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
> Bryan
> 97 TJ
>


Mike Romain 06-04-2007 02:54 PM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.

I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.

Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
of codes.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

bspear78 wrote:
> Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks
>
> Bryan
> 97 TJ
>


bspear78 06-05-2007 10:18 AM

Re: 97 tj stalling out in traffic
 
On Jun 4, 2:54 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The throttle position sensor controls the idle speed and the shift
> points. It is known to get a bad connection and sometimes wear out.
> The best is a spray electronic contact cleaner, but WD40 will do in a
> pinch. I like to use dielectric grease on the plug's seal skirts to
> help keep it clean. We had to do ours every couple years for the last
> ten, but it saw lots of dirt and mud.
>
> I also recommend cleaning and greasing the other sensor connections,
> especially the CPS one which is also known for it's bad connection
> issue. That causes up and stalls though, not rough.
>
> Can you not get the fault codes on that with the key switch? You go on,
> off, on, off, on with the key just to the run position, not the starter,
> then count the flashes. The last two will be a 5 and a 5 or 55 for end
> of codes.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
>
> bspear78 wrote:
> > Was wondering if anyone had any ideas about this. I have a 97 tj
> > automatic and for about 2-3 months it has been sputtering and
> > sometimes stalling when I am idleing in traffic. it happens maybe once
> > or twice a day. it also seems like when this happens and I start to go
> > it is slipping gears then recovers and is fine. I have had it into 2
> > places and nobody can figure this out. It has also been leaking from
> > near the transfer case for about a month. Transmission fluid is fine.
> > Idle is fine. Anyone heard of this happening. i am almost about to
> > take it to the dealership but REALLY do not want to do that. thanks

>
> > Bryan
> > 97 TJ- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thanks,

The check engine light is not on, will I still get a diagnostic
reading by doing the on, off, on, off, on trick?

and, does anyone know what the number would be for the throttle
position sensor?











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