"Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hqKdnfT-DJXfDlXeRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> How did you replace the pilot bearing in the crank? I have heard on the
> 6cyl, it's in the end of the crank.

If I remeber correctly it was in the flywheel. I just removed the
flywheel and tapped it out from the backside with a punch. I don't know for
sure as we did the jod a year ago but I do remember removing the flywheel.

>
> Carl
>
>
> "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:Fo0yf.744$wk5.510@news02.roc.ny...
>>
>> "Tqm" <tqmfun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hA_xf.2337$Hd4.1538@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
>>> Evening,
>>> Of course in the middle of the busiest intersection in town @ 5:00 pm I
>>> was pulling up to the red light stopping, however, no clutch peddle
>>> pressure! Having a hydraulic system I gave it several pumps hoping to
>>> get enough pressure to at least get through the intersection, but no
>>> dice.
>>> The clutch was stuck engaged with no chance of it releasing. My best bet
>>> was to start it in gear and limp through and work from there.
>>> Long story short I did finally get it home and on the driveway. I
>>> assumed the possibility of the slave cylinder being blown or out of
>>> fluid. There was no loud noises from below on the way home, so assumed
>>> no lose parts.
>>> I checked fluid, it was low, but not dry. I pulled the slave cylinder
>>> out and it was fully extended! I feared the worst at this point. I got a
>>> handy mirror and peered inside and could see the clutch fork was fully
>>> pushed in, almost down to the fly wheel. Basically bottomed out, but the
>>> cones in the pressure plate were not pushed in. Almost looks like there
>>> is no throw out bearing! I can't see any more because the slave cylinder
>>> hole is to small.
>>> So what is this? Could the fork be bent in the middle keeping the throw
>>> out bearing away from the pressure plate? Maybe broke on the pivot end?
>>> I'm up near Seattle and we've had tons of rain with massive water
>>> puddles on our gravel road. Possible the muck on the shaft keeping the
>>> throw out bearing from moving jammed and then bent the fork?
>>> Anyway, if anyone has had this happen or have some ideas please pass it
>>> on. I have no problem fixing clutches etc, but some heads up on ordering
>>> parts would be great.
>>> Any heads up on pulling the tranny for clutch replacements? Clutch kit
>>> recommendations?
>>> Thanks
>>> Retrojeep
>>
>>
>> I helped my nephew with his jeep last year. Same symtoms as yours. What
>> happens is the throw out bearing has two small ears on opposite sides
>> that make contact with the clutch fork. The two ears are held against the
>> clutch fork by spring clips. The spring clips rusted away allowing the
>> throw out bearing to rotate and pass through the clutch fork. It looked
>> like it would have been possible to just get some new spring clips but
>> being we had it apart we replaced the clutch, pressure plate and throw
>> out bearing. The clutch fork had a few dings in it but we were able to
>> reuse it.
>>
>
>

 

You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
bushing right out.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:21:35 UTC "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hqKdnfT-DJXfDlXeRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> > How did you replace the pilot bearing in the crank? I have heard on the
> > 6cyl, it's in the end of the crank.
>
> If I remeber correctly it was in the flywheel. I just removed the
> flywheel and tapped it out from the backside with a punch. I don't know for
> sure as we did the jod a year ago but I do remember removing the flywheel.
>
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> > news:Fo0yf.744$wk5.510@news02.roc.ny...
> >>
> >> "Tqm" <tqmfun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hA_xf.2337$Hd4.1538@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> >>> Evening,
> >>> Of course in the middle of the busiest intersection in town @ 5:00 pm I
> >>> was pulling up to the red light stopping, however, no clutch peddle
> >>> pressure! Having a hydraulic system I gave it several pumps hoping to
> >>> get enough pressure to at least get through the intersection, but no
> >>> dice.
> >>> The clutch was stuck engaged with no chance of it releasing. My best bet
> >>> was to start it in gear and limp through and work from there.
> >>> Long story short I did finally get it home and on the driveway. I
> >>> assumed the possibility of the slave cylinder being blown or out of
> >>> fluid. There was no loud noises from below on the way home, so assumed
> >>> no lose parts.
> >>> I checked fluid, it was low, but not dry. I pulled the slave cylinder
> >>> out and it was fully extended! I feared the worst at this point. I got a
> >>> handy mirror and peered inside and could see the clutch fork was fully
> >>> pushed in, almost down to the fly wheel. Basically bottomed out, but the
> >>> cones in the pressure plate were not pushed in. Almost looks like there
> >>> is no throw out bearing! I can't see any more because the slave cylinder
> >>> hole is to small.
> >>> So what is this? Could the fork be bent in the middle keeping the throw
> >>> out bearing away from the pressure plate? Maybe broke on the pivot end?
> >>> I'm up near Seattle and we've had tons of rain with massive water
> >>> puddles on our gravel road. Possible the muck on the shaft keeping the
> >>> throw out bearing from moving jammed and then bent the fork?
> >>> Anyway, if anyone has had this happen or have some ideas please pass it
> >>> on. I have no problem fixing clutches etc, but some heads up on ordering
> >>> parts would be great.
> >>> Any heads up on pulling the tranny for clutch replacements? Clutch kit
> >>> recommendations?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Retrojeep
> >>
> >>
> >> I helped my nephew with his jeep last year. Same symtoms as yours. What
> >> happens is the throw out bearing has two small ears on opposite sides
> >> that make contact with the clutch fork. The two ears are held against the
> >> clutch fork by spring clips. The spring clips rusted away allowing the
> >> throw out bearing to rotate and pass through the clutch fork. It looked
> >> like it would have been possible to just get some new spring clips but
> >> being we had it apart we replaced the clutch, pressure plate and throw
> >> out bearing. The clutch fork had a few dings in it but we were able to
> >> reuse it.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea

 

You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
bushing right out.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:21:35 UTC "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hqKdnfT-DJXfDlXeRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> > How did you replace the pilot bearing in the crank? I have heard on the
> > 6cyl, it's in the end of the crank.
>
> If I remeber correctly it was in the flywheel. I just removed the
> flywheel and tapped it out from the backside with a punch. I don't know for
> sure as we did the jod a year ago but I do remember removing the flywheel.
>
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> > news:Fo0yf.744$wk5.510@news02.roc.ny...
> >>
> >> "Tqm" <tqmfun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hA_xf.2337$Hd4.1538@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> >>> Evening,
> >>> Of course in the middle of the busiest intersection in town @ 5:00 pm I
> >>> was pulling up to the red light stopping, however, no clutch peddle
> >>> pressure! Having a hydraulic system I gave it several pumps hoping to
> >>> get enough pressure to at least get through the intersection, but no
> >>> dice.
> >>> The clutch was stuck engaged with no chance of it releasing. My best bet
> >>> was to start it in gear and limp through and work from there.
> >>> Long story short I did finally get it home and on the driveway. I
> >>> assumed the possibility of the slave cylinder being blown or out of
> >>> fluid. There was no loud noises from below on the way home, so assumed
> >>> no lose parts.
> >>> I checked fluid, it was low, but not dry. I pulled the slave cylinder
> >>> out and it was fully extended! I feared the worst at this point. I got a
> >>> handy mirror and peered inside and could see the clutch fork was fully
> >>> pushed in, almost down to the fly wheel. Basically bottomed out, but the
> >>> cones in the pressure plate were not pushed in. Almost looks like there
> >>> is no throw out bearing! I can't see any more because the slave cylinder
> >>> hole is to small.
> >>> So what is this? Could the fork be bent in the middle keeping the throw
> >>> out bearing away from the pressure plate? Maybe broke on the pivot end?
> >>> I'm up near Seattle and we've had tons of rain with massive water
> >>> puddles on our gravel road. Possible the muck on the shaft keeping the
> >>> throw out bearing from moving jammed and then bent the fork?
> >>> Anyway, if anyone has had this happen or have some ideas please pass it
> >>> on. I have no problem fixing clutches etc, but some heads up on ordering
> >>> parts would be great.
> >>> Any heads up on pulling the tranny for clutch replacements? Clutch kit
> >>> recommendations?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Retrojeep
> >>
> >>
> >> I helped my nephew with his jeep last year. Same symtoms as yours. What
> >> happens is the throw out bearing has two small ears on opposite sides
> >> that make contact with the clutch fork. The two ears are held against the
> >> clutch fork by spring clips. The spring clips rusted away allowing the
> >> throw out bearing to rotate and pass through the clutch fork. It looked
> >> like it would have been possible to just get some new spring clips but
> >> being we had it apart we replaced the clutch, pressure plate and throw
> >> out bearing. The clutch fork had a few dings in it but we were able to
> >> reuse it.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea

 

You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
bushing right out.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:21:35 UTC "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

>
> "Carl" <carlsaiyed@REMOVE.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hqKdnfT-DJXfDlXeRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> > How did you replace the pilot bearing in the crank? I have heard on the
> > 6cyl, it's in the end of the crank.
>
> If I remeber correctly it was in the flywheel. I just removed the
> flywheel and tapped it out from the backside with a punch. I don't know for
> sure as we did the jod a year ago but I do remember removing the flywheel.
>
> >
> > Carl
> >
> >
> > "Mike" <mcarpe@frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> > news:Fo0yf.744$wk5.510@news02.roc.ny...
> >>
> >> "Tqm" <tqmfun@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:hA_xf.2337$Hd4.1538@newsread1.news.pas.earthl ink.net...
> >>> Evening,
> >>> Of course in the middle of the busiest intersection in town @ 5:00 pm I
> >>> was pulling up to the red light stopping, however, no clutch peddle
> >>> pressure! Having a hydraulic system I gave it several pumps hoping to
> >>> get enough pressure to at least get through the intersection, but no
> >>> dice.
> >>> The clutch was stuck engaged with no chance of it releasing. My best bet
> >>> was to start it in gear and limp through and work from there.
> >>> Long story short I did finally get it home and on the driveway. I
> >>> assumed the possibility of the slave cylinder being blown or out of
> >>> fluid. There was no loud noises from below on the way home, so assumed
> >>> no lose parts.
> >>> I checked fluid, it was low, but not dry. I pulled the slave cylinder
> >>> out and it was fully extended! I feared the worst at this point. I got a
> >>> handy mirror and peered inside and could see the clutch fork was fully
> >>> pushed in, almost down to the fly wheel. Basically bottomed out, but the
> >>> cones in the pressure plate were not pushed in. Almost looks like there
> >>> is no throw out bearing! I can't see any more because the slave cylinder
> >>> hole is to small.
> >>> So what is this? Could the fork be bent in the middle keeping the throw
> >>> out bearing away from the pressure plate? Maybe broke on the pivot end?
> >>> I'm up near Seattle and we've had tons of rain with massive water
> >>> puddles on our gravel road. Possible the muck on the shaft keeping the
> >>> throw out bearing from moving jammed and then bent the fork?
> >>> Anyway, if anyone has had this happen or have some ideas please pass it
> >>> on. I have no problem fixing clutches etc, but some heads up on ordering
> >>> parts would be great.
> >>> Any heads up on pulling the tranny for clutch replacements? Clutch kit
> >>> recommendations?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Retrojeep
> >>
> >>
> >> I helped my nephew with his jeep last year. Same symtoms as yours. What
> >> happens is the throw out bearing has two small ears on opposite sides
> >> that make contact with the clutch fork. The two ears are held against the
> >> clutch fork by spring clips. The spring clips rusted away allowing the
> >> throw out bearing to rotate and pass through the clutch fork. It looked
> >> like it would have been possible to just get some new spring clips but
> >> being we had it apart we replaced the clutch, pressure plate and throw
> >> out bearing. The clutch fork had a few dings in it but we were able to
> >> reuse it.
> >>
> >
> >
>
>


--
Will Honea

 

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
> in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
> forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
> the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
> bushing right out.

 

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
> in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
> forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
> the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
> bushing right out.

 

Ditto.
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Will Honea wrote:
>
> You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
> in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
> forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
> the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
> bushing right out.

 

Check the flywheel for groves, consider get it turned down. $25 to $35
range. Figure $200 or so for new disk, pressure plate, and throwout
bearing. 6 hours of serious work if you haven't done it before.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ditto.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
>>You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
>>in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
>>forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
>>the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
>>bushing right out.

 

Check the flywheel for groves, consider get it turned down. $25 to $35
range. Figure $200 or so for new disk, pressure plate, and throwout
bearing. 6 hours of serious work if you haven't done it before.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ditto.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
>>You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
>>in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
>>forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
>>the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
>>bushing right out.

 

Check the flywheel for groves, consider get it turned down. $25 to $35
range. Figure $200 or so for new disk, pressure plate, and throwout
bearing. 6 hours of serious work if you haven't done it before.

L.W.(ßill) ------ III wrote:
> Ditto.
> God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Will Honea wrote:
>
>>You can get a puller but the quickest way is to pack the hole it sits
>>in with grease then use a rod of some kind to push the grease in
>>forcing the bearing out. I used a junk socket that was a close fit in
>>the pilot hole. 5-6 whacks with a hammer and the grease popped the
>>bushing right out.