I'd say that you should consider switching to decaf.


Jim Smith wrote:
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>
>>Jerry,
[snip]

 

I'd say that you should consider switching to decaf.


Jim Smith wrote:
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>
>>Jerry,
[snip]

 

You should get your Jeep fixed in my opinion. Just because your tranny
and t-case doesn't work properly, it doesn't mean others 'must' be
broken too.

It seems to be fairly common for one reason or another, engine and
tranny mounts getting saggy is one thing that comes to mind so they just
need a little adjustment to make up for it.

I know I certainly wouldn't be allowed to have either of my Jeeps broken
like that!

My wife would not put up with it even for a day because she gets off
work before the plows get going and sees bare and covered roads a lot on
the way home so shifts into and out of 4 high at every second or 3rd
intersection. You know, clear main roads and covered secondary with
some cleared through the secondaries. 4 shifts in and out at least
usually.

If you were doing that drive daily and had to stop in traffic to shift,
you first off would look like a fool, and second would be a road hazard.

Just my $0.02,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jim Smith wrote:
>
> No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
> However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
> Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> > round,
> > by letting him get under your skin.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> >> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
> >>
> >> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> >> > Jerry,
> >> >
> >> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> >> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> >> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> >> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> > it's
> >> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> > is
> >> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> > doing.
> >> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> > Also
> >> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> > also
> >> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >> >
> >> > JoBo
> >> >
> >> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> > as
> >> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> > you
> >> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
> >> >> lever
> >> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> > accelerate
> >> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> > shift
> >> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> > stopping
> >> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> > nay
> >> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Jim Smith
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> > My
> >> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> > out
> >> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> >>>>>>minutes
> >> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> > massive
> >> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> > and
> >> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>--
> >> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

You should get your Jeep fixed in my opinion. Just because your tranny
and t-case doesn't work properly, it doesn't mean others 'must' be
broken too.

It seems to be fairly common for one reason or another, engine and
tranny mounts getting saggy is one thing that comes to mind so they just
need a little adjustment to make up for it.

I know I certainly wouldn't be allowed to have either of my Jeeps broken
like that!

My wife would not put up with it even for a day because she gets off
work before the plows get going and sees bare and covered roads a lot on
the way home so shifts into and out of 4 high at every second or 3rd
intersection. You know, clear main roads and covered secondary with
some cleared through the secondaries. 4 shifts in and out at least
usually.

If you were doing that drive daily and had to stop in traffic to shift,
you first off would look like a fool, and second would be a road hazard.

Just my $0.02,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jim Smith wrote:
>
> No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
> However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
> Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> > round,
> > by letting him get under your skin.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> >> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
> >>
> >> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> >> > Jerry,
> >> >
> >> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> >> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> >> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> >> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> > it's
> >> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> > is
> >> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> > doing.
> >> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> > Also
> >> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> > also
> >> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >> >
> >> > JoBo
> >> >
> >> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> > as
> >> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> > you
> >> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
> >> >> lever
> >> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> > accelerate
> >> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> > shift
> >> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> > stopping
> >> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> > nay
> >> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Jim Smith
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> > My
> >> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> > out
> >> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> >>>>>>minutes
> >> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> > massive
> >> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> > and
> >> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>--
> >> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

You should get your Jeep fixed in my opinion. Just because your tranny
and t-case doesn't work properly, it doesn't mean others 'must' be
broken too.

It seems to be fairly common for one reason or another, engine and
tranny mounts getting saggy is one thing that comes to mind so they just
need a little adjustment to make up for it.

I know I certainly wouldn't be allowed to have either of my Jeeps broken
like that!

My wife would not put up with it even for a day because she gets off
work before the plows get going and sees bare and covered roads a lot on
the way home so shifts into and out of 4 high at every second or 3rd
intersection. You know, clear main roads and covered secondary with
some cleared through the secondaries. 4 shifts in and out at least
usually.

If you were doing that drive daily and had to stop in traffic to shift,
you first off would look like a fool, and second would be a road hazard.

Just my $0.02,

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Jim Smith wrote:
>
> No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
> However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
> Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> > round,
> > by letting him get under your skin.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> >> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
> >>
> >> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> >> > Jerry,
> >> >
> >> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> >> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> >> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> >> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> > it's
> >> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> > is
> >> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> > doing.
> >> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> > Also
> >> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> > also
> >> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >> >
> >> > JoBo
> >> >
> >> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> > as
> >> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> > you
> >> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
> >> >> lever
> >> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> > accelerate
> >> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> > shift
> >> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> > stopping
> >> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> > nay
> >> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Jim Smith
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> > My
> >> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> > out
> >> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> >>>>>>minutes
> >> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> > massive
> >> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> > and
> >> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> >>>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>--
> >> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I agree, but shifting into N would have a similar effect of letting off the
> gas.

Hopefully Matt you don't really think that shifting into N while
driving is preferrable to just backing off a bit on the gas. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
tp://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I agree, but shifting into N would have a similar effect of letting off the
> gas.

Hopefully Matt you don't really think that shifting into N while
driving is preferrable to just backing off a bit on the gas. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
tp://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> I agree, but shifting into N would have a similar effect of letting off the
> gas.

Hopefully Matt you don't really think that shifting into N while
driving is preferrable to just backing off a bit on the gas. :)

Jerry
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
tp://members.***.net/jerrypb/

 

I felt the same way, and our Cherokee was practically new when this
happened, nothing apparently wrong with it. I also figured out that
anything that used that much fuel, should be able to hold a 4x8 sheet of
sheetrock, or 20 of them if need be. I replaced it with a 3/4 ton Suburban,
and I have been happy since. It has practically the same transfer case, a
similar transmission, and doesn't give any grief shifting the transfer case.
Maybe the Cherokee was broken, or maybe the Aisin transmission is just a
piece of crap. I didn't feel like finding out.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C3E65C.FC34C3DA@sympatico.ca...
> You should get your Jeep fixed in my opinion. Just because your tranny
> and t-case doesn't work properly, it doesn't mean others 'must' be
> broken too.
>
> It seems to be fairly common for one reason or another, engine and
> tranny mounts getting saggy is one thing that comes to mind so they just
> need a little adjustment to make up for it.
>
> I know I certainly wouldn't be allowed to have either of my Jeeps broken
> like that!
>
> My wife would not put up with it even for a day because she gets off
> work before the plows get going and sees bare and covered roads a lot on
> the way home so shifts into and out of 4 high at every second or 3rd
> intersection. You know, clear main roads and covered secondary with
> some cleared through the secondaries. 4 shifts in and out at least
> usually.
>
> If you were doing that drive daily and had to stop in traffic to shift,
> you first off would look like a fool, and second would be a road hazard.
>
> Just my $0.02,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jim Smith wrote:
> >
> > No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
> > However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works
for my
> > Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
> >
> > Jim Smith
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> > > round,
> > > by letting him get under your skin.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> > >> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
> > >>
> > >> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jim Smith
> > >>
> > >> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > >> > Jerry,
> > >> >
> > >> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99
and
> > >> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the
transfer
> > >> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then
say 10
> > >> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing
still
> > > it's
> > >> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer
case
> > > is
> > >> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> > > doing.
> > >> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and
shift.
> > > Also
> > >> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether.
I
> > > also
> > >> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> > >> >
> > >> > JoBo
> > >> >
> > >> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> > >> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case
and
> > > as
> > >> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual
like
> > > you
> > >> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
> > >> >> lever
> > >> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before
> > >> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is
> > >> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> > > accelerate
> > >> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> > >> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> > > shift
> > >> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> > > stopping
> > >> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and
without
> > > nay
> > >> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Jim Smith
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting
the
> > >> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>Jim Smith
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> > > My
> > >> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to
start
> > > out
> > >> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> > >> >>>>>>minutes
> > >> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> > > massive
> > >> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few
feet
> > > and
> > >> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>--
> > >> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> > >> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Jerry Bransford
> > >> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >

 

I felt the same way, and our Cherokee was practically new when this
happened, nothing apparently wrong with it. I also figured out that
anything that used that much fuel, should be able to hold a 4x8 sheet of
sheetrock, or 20 of them if need be. I replaced it with a 3/4 ton Suburban,
and I have been happy since. It has practically the same transfer case, a
similar transmission, and doesn't give any grief shifting the transfer case.
Maybe the Cherokee was broken, or maybe the Aisin transmission is just a
piece of crap. I didn't feel like finding out.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C3E65C.FC34C3DA@sympatico.ca...
> You should get your Jeep fixed in my opinion. Just because your tranny
> and t-case doesn't work properly, it doesn't mean others 'must' be
> broken too.
>
> It seems to be fairly common for one reason or another, engine and
> tranny mounts getting saggy is one thing that comes to mind so they just
> need a little adjustment to make up for it.
>
> I know I certainly wouldn't be allowed to have either of my Jeeps broken
> like that!
>
> My wife would not put up with it even for a day because she gets off
> work before the plows get going and sees bare and covered roads a lot on
> the way home so shifts into and out of 4 high at every second or 3rd
> intersection. You know, clear main roads and covered secondary with
> some cleared through the secondaries. 4 shifts in and out at least
> usually.
>
> If you were doing that drive daily and had to stop in traffic to shift,
> you first off would look like a fool, and second would be a road hazard.
>
> Just my $0.02,
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Jim Smith wrote:
> >
> > No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
> > However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works
for my
> > Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
> >
> > Jim Smith
> >
> > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> > > According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> > > round,
> > > by letting him get under your skin.
> > >
> > > Earle
> > >
> > > "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > > news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> > >> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
> > >>
> > >> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jim Smith
> > >>
> > >> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > >> > Jerry,
> > >> >
> > >> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99
and
> > >> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the
transfer
> > >> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then
say 10
> > >> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing
still
> > > it's
> > >> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer
case
> > > is
> > >> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> > > doing.
> > >> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and
shift.
> > > Also
> > >> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether.
I
> > > also
> > >> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> > >> >
> > >> > JoBo
> > >> >
> > >> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > >> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> > >> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case
and
> > > as
> > >> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual
like
> > > you
> > >> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
> > >> >> lever
> > >> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before
> > >> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is
> > >> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> > > accelerate
> > >> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> > >> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> > > shift
> > >> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> > > stopping
> > >> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and
without
> > > nay
> > >> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Jim Smith
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > >> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting
the
> > >> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>Jim Smith
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > >> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> > > My
> > >> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to
start
> > > out
> > >> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> > >> >>>>>>minutes
> > >> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> > > massive
> > >> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few
feet
> > > and
> > >> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>--
> > >> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> > >> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Jerry Bransford
> > >> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > >> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> > >> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >