97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
01-09-2006, 08:56 PM
#51
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
In the condo, second floor of the building. I was sitting down to a well
deserved beer and a viewing of "Sabrina the Teen Age Witch", when I heard a
"Holy Sh*t!" noise from the parking lot, and instantly hoped it wasn't mine.
That hope was dashed pretty quick. As far as I could figure out, she had
shifted onto 4-LO on entry to the slush filled parking lot. On the way out,
she thought that 4-HI would be better. She was probably right, but once she
got the transfer case into Neutral it wouldn't come out for anything, not
until I came out and played with the automatic shifter, shut off the engine,
and fiddled around with it for a few minutes.
I hate to say that Jerry's advice is "just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised",
but there you have it.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> Jerry,
>
> Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
they
> both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer case, to
> shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10 MPH there's
> too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still it's even worse
if
> the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case is in neutral.
> That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife doing. Now a
> standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift. Also the
> vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I also
owned
> a 89 5 speed.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> > Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> > the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like you
> > suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> > back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> > shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> > absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> > the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >
> > Jim Smith wrote:
> >> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift
> >> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay
> >> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>
> >>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
minutes
> >>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> >>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
deserved beer and a viewing of "Sabrina the Teen Age Witch", when I heard a
"Holy Sh*t!" noise from the parking lot, and instantly hoped it wasn't mine.
That hope was dashed pretty quick. As far as I could figure out, she had
shifted onto 4-LO on entry to the slush filled parking lot. On the way out,
she thought that 4-HI would be better. She was probably right, but once she
got the transfer case into Neutral it wouldn't come out for anything, not
until I came out and played with the automatic shifter, shut off the engine,
and fiddled around with it for a few minutes.
I hate to say that Jerry's advice is "just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised",
but there you have it.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> Jerry,
>
> Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
they
> both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer case, to
> shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10 MPH there's
> too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still it's even worse
if
> the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case is in neutral.
> That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife doing. Now a
> standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift. Also the
> vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I also
owned
> a 89 5 speed.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> > Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> > the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like you
> > suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> > back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> > shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> > absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> > the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >
> > Jim Smith wrote:
> >> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift
> >> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay
> >> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>
> >>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
minutes
> >>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> >>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
01-09-2006, 08:56 PM
#52
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
In the condo, second floor of the building. I was sitting down to a well
deserved beer and a viewing of "Sabrina the Teen Age Witch", when I heard a
"Holy Sh*t!" noise from the parking lot, and instantly hoped it wasn't mine.
That hope was dashed pretty quick. As far as I could figure out, she had
shifted onto 4-LO on entry to the slush filled parking lot. On the way out,
she thought that 4-HI would be better. She was probably right, but once she
got the transfer case into Neutral it wouldn't come out for anything, not
until I came out and played with the automatic shifter, shut off the engine,
and fiddled around with it for a few minutes.
I hate to say that Jerry's advice is "just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised",
but there you have it.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> Jerry,
>
> Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
they
> both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer case, to
> shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10 MPH there's
> too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still it's even worse
if
> the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case is in neutral.
> That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife doing. Now a
> standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift. Also the
> vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I also
owned
> a 89 5 speed.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> > Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> > the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like you
> > suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> > back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> > shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> > absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> > the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >
> > Jim Smith wrote:
> >> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift
> >> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay
> >> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>
> >>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
minutes
> >>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> >>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
deserved beer and a viewing of "Sabrina the Teen Age Witch", when I heard a
"Holy Sh*t!" noise from the parking lot, and instantly hoped it wasn't mine.
That hope was dashed pretty quick. As far as I could figure out, she had
shifted onto 4-LO on entry to the slush filled parking lot. On the way out,
she thought that 4-HI would be better. She was probably right, but once she
got the transfer case into Neutral it wouldn't come out for anything, not
until I came out and played with the automatic shifter, shut off the engine,
and fiddled around with it for a few minutes.
I hate to say that Jerry's advice is "just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised",
but there you have it.
Earle
"Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> Jerry,
>
> Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
they
> both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer case, to
> shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10 MPH there's
> too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still it's even worse
if
> the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case is in neutral.
> That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife doing. Now a
> standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift. Also the
> vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I also
owned
> a 89 5 speed.
>
> JoBo
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> > Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> > the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like you
> > suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> > back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> > shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> > absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> > the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >
> > Jim Smith wrote:
> >> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift
> >> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay
> >> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>
> >>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>
> >>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
minutes
> >>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> >>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>--
> >>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
01-09-2006, 09:03 PM
#53
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Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a round,
by letting him get under your skin.
Earle
"Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
it's
> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
is
> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
doing.
> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
Also
> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
also
> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you
> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >>
> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
shift
> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
nay
> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jim Smith
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>>
> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >>>>>>minutes
> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
massive
> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
by letting him get under your skin.
Earle
"Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
it's
> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
is
> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
doing.
> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
Also
> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
also
> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you
> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >>
> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
shift
> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
nay
> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jim Smith
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>>
> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >>>>>>minutes
> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
massive
> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
01-09-2006, 09:03 PM
#54
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a round,
by letting him get under your skin.
Earle
"Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
it's
> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
is
> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
doing.
> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
Also
> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
also
> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you
> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >>
> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
shift
> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
nay
> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jim Smith
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>>
> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >>>>>>minutes
> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
massive
> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
by letting him get under your skin.
Earle
"Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
it's
> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
is
> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
doing.
> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
Also
> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
also
> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you
> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >>
> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
shift
> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
nay
> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jim Smith
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>>
> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >>>>>>minutes
> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
massive
> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
01-09-2006, 09:03 PM
#55
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a round,
by letting him get under your skin.
Earle
"Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
it's
> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
is
> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
doing.
> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
Also
> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
also
> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you
> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >>
> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
shift
> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
nay
> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jim Smith
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>>
> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >>>>>>minutes
> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
massive
> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
by letting him get under your skin.
Earle
"Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>
> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
> > Jerry,
> >
> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
it's
> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
is
> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
doing.
> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
Also
> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
also
> > owned a 89 5 speed.
> >
> > JoBo
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as
> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you
> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever
> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate
> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
> >>
> >> Jim Smith wrote:
> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
shift
> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
stopping
> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
nay
> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Jim Smith
> >>>
> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >>>
> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >>>>
> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jim Smith
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
My
> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
out
> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >>>>>>minutes
> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
massive
> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
and
> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jerry Bransford
> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
> >
> >
>
>
01-09-2006, 09:26 PM
#56
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
Jim Smith
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> round,
> by letting him get under your skin.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>>
>> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>>
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
>> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
>> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
>> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> it's
>> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> is
>> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> doing.
>> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> Also
>> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> also
>> > owned a 89 5 speed.
>> >
>> > JoBo
>> >
>> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
>> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> as
>> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> you
>> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
>> >> lever
>> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
>> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
>> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> accelerate
>> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> shift
>> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> stopping
>> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> nay
>> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Smith
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> >>>
>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Jim Smith
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> My
>> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> out
>> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >>>>>>minutes
>> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> massive
>> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> and
>> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Jerry Bransford
>> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jerry Bransford
>> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
Jim Smith
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> round,
> by letting him get under your skin.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>>
>> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>>
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
>> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
>> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
>> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> it's
>> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> is
>> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> doing.
>> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> Also
>> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> also
>> > owned a 89 5 speed.
>> >
>> > JoBo
>> >
>> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
>> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> as
>> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> you
>> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
>> >> lever
>> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
>> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
>> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> accelerate
>> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> shift
>> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> stopping
>> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> nay
>> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Smith
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> >>>
>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Jim Smith
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> My
>> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> out
>> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >>>>>>minutes
>> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> massive
>> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> and
>> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Jerry Bransford
>> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jerry Bransford
>> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
01-09-2006, 09:26 PM
#57
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
Jim Smith
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> round,
> by letting him get under your skin.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>>
>> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>>
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
>> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
>> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
>> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> it's
>> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> is
>> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> doing.
>> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> Also
>> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> also
>> > owned a 89 5 speed.
>> >
>> > JoBo
>> >
>> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
>> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> as
>> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> you
>> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
>> >> lever
>> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
>> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
>> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> accelerate
>> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> shift
>> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> stopping
>> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> nay
>> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Smith
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> >>>
>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Jim Smith
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> My
>> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> out
>> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >>>>>>minutes
>> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> massive
>> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> and
>> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Jerry Bransford
>> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jerry Bransford
>> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
Jim Smith
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> round,
> by letting him get under your skin.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>>
>> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>>
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
>> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
>> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
>> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> it's
>> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> is
>> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> doing.
>> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> Also
>> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> also
>> > owned a 89 5 speed.
>> >
>> > JoBo
>> >
>> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
>> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> as
>> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> you
>> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
>> >> lever
>> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
>> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
>> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> accelerate
>> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> shift
>> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> stopping
>> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> nay
>> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Smith
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> >>>
>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Jim Smith
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> My
>> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> out
>> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >>>>>>minutes
>> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> massive
>> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> and
>> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Jerry Bransford
>> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jerry Bransford
>> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
01-09-2006, 09:26 PM
#58
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup.
However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
Jim Smith
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> round,
> by letting him get under your skin.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>>
>> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>>
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
>> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
>> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
>> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> it's
>> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> is
>> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> doing.
>> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> Also
>> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> also
>> > owned a 89 5 speed.
>> >
>> > JoBo
>> >
>> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
>> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> as
>> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> you
>> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
>> >> lever
>> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
>> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
>> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> accelerate
>> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> shift
>> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> stopping
>> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> nay
>> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Smith
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> >>>
>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Jim Smith
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> My
>> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> out
>> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >>>>>>minutes
>> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> massive
>> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> and
>> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Jerry Bransford
>> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jerry Bransford
>> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my
Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person!
Jim Smith
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a
> round,
> by letting him get under your skin.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral.
>>
>> What do you have to say to that Jerry?
>>
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. .
>> > Jerry,
>> >
>> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and
>> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer
>> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10
>> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still
> it's
>> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case
> is
>> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife
> doing.
>> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift.
> Also
>> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I
> also
>> > owned a 89 5 speed.
>> >
>> > JoBo
>> >
>> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04...
>> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
> as
>> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
> you
>> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
>> >> lever
>> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before
>> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is
>> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
> accelerate
>> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
>> >>
>> >> Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can
> shift
>> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found
> stopping
>> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without
> nay
>> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Jim Smith
>> >>>
>> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> >>>
>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Jim Smith
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
> My
>> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> out
>> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >>>>>>minutes
>> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> massive
>> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> and
>> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>--
>> >>>>Jerry Bransford
>> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jerry Bransford
>> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> >> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> >> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
01-09-2006, 09:45 PM
#59
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
with a new one and the problem will go away.
On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
to the light on the dashboard.
Walt Johnson.
<phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>
happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
with a new one and the problem will go away.
On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
to the light on the dashboard.
Walt Johnson.
<phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>
01-09-2006, 09:45 PM
#60
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
with a new one and the problem will go away.
On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
to the light on the dashboard.
Walt Johnson.
<phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>
happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
with a new one and the problem will go away.
On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
to the light on the dashboard.
Walt Johnson.
<phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>