97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
01-09-2006, 05:16 PM
#31
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
On our 88 we have to bump the vacuum with a fast decel to make it shift
quick, otherwise it takes time. That is just age on leaky vacuum
fittings, usually the front axle one and doesn't apply to the new ones.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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Jim Smith wrote:
>
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >
> > Jim Smith wrote:
> >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >>
> >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >>
> >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
quick, otherwise it takes time. That is just age on leaky vacuum
fittings, usually the front axle one and doesn't apply to the new ones.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Jim Smith wrote:
>
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
> >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
> >
> > Jim Smith wrote:
> >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
> >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
> >>
> >> Jim Smith
> >>
> >>
> >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >>
> >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Jerry Bransford
> > PP-ASEL N6TAY
> > See the Geezer Jeep at
> > http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-09-2006, 06:20 PM
#32
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
> Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
> it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
> Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
> that way for many years.
>
> I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
> my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
> yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
> wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
> backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>> in
>> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>> park.
>> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>> my
>> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>> considered normal behavior or not.
>>
>> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>> just
>> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>
>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>
>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
> Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
> it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
> Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
> that way for many years.
>
> I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
> my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
> yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
> wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
> backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>> in
>> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>> park.
>> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>> my
>> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>> considered normal behavior or not.
>>
>> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>> just
>> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>
>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>
>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-09-2006, 06:20 PM
#33
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
> Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
> it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
> Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
> that way for many years.
>
> I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
> my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
> yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
> wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
> backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>> in
>> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>> park.
>> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>> my
>> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>> considered normal behavior or not.
>>
>> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>> just
>> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>
>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>
>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
> Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
> it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
> Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
> that way for many years.
>
> I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
> my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
> yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
> wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
> backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>> in
>> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>> park.
>> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>> my
>> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>> considered normal behavior or not.
>>
>> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>> just
>> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>
>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>
>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-09-2006, 06:20 PM
#34
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
> Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
> it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
> Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
> that way for many years.
>
> I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
> my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
> yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
> wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
> backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>> in
>> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>> park.
>> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>> my
>> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>> considered normal behavior or not.
>>
>> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>> just
>> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>
>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>
>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
> Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
> it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
> Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
> that way for many years.
>
> I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
> my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
> yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
> wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
> backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
>> Jerry,
>>
>> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>> in
>> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>> park.
>> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>> my
>> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>> considered normal behavior or not.
>>
>> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>> just
>> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>
>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>
>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>
>>>>
>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>--
>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-09-2006, 07:57 PM
#35
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
Jim Smith wrote:
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
Jim Smith wrote:
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
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01-09-2006, 07:57 PM
#36
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
Jim Smith wrote:
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
Jim Smith wrote:
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
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01-09-2006, 07:57 PM
#37
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
Jim Smith wrote:
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like
you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case
lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral
before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It
is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help
accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit.
Jim Smith wrote:
> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
> the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
> putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
> pop or bang. Just my observation.
>
>
> Jim Smith
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
01-09-2006, 08:00 PM
#38
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Matt, my Cherokee was an automatic and the most I ever had to do to
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised
the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into
2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift
into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The
transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not
"shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :)
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
> for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
> automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
> the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
> minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
>
>>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
>>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
>>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
>>that way for many years.
>>
>>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
>>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
>>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
>>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
>>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>
>>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>>>in
>>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>>>park.
>>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>>>my
>>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>>>considered normal behavior or not.
>>>
>>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>>>just
>>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised
the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into
2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift
into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The
transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not
"shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :)
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
> for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
> automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
> the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
> minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
>
>>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
>>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
>>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
>>that way for many years.
>>
>>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
>>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
>>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
>>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
>>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>
>>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>>>in
>>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>>>park.
>>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>>>my
>>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>>>considered normal behavior or not.
>>>
>>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>>>just
>>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
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PP-ASEL N6TAY
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01-09-2006, 08:00 PM
#39
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Matt, my Cherokee was an automatic and the most I ever had to do to
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised
the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into
2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift
into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The
transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not
"shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :)
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
> for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
> automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
> the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
> minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
>
>>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
>>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
>>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
>>that way for many years.
>>
>>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
>>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
>>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
>>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
>>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>
>>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>>>in
>>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>>>park.
>>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>>>my
>>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>>>considered normal behavior or not.
>>>
>>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>>>just
>>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised
the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into
2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift
into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The
transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not
"shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :)
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
> for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
> automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
> the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
> minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
>
>>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
>>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
>>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
>>that way for many years.
>>
>>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
>>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
>>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
>>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
>>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>
>>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>>>in
>>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>>>park.
>>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>>>my
>>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>>>considered normal behavior or not.
>>>
>>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>>>just
>>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
--
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01-09-2006, 08:00 PM
#40
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Matt, my Cherokee was an automatic and the most I ever had to do to
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised
the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into
2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift
into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The
transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not
"shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :)
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
> for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
> automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
> the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
> minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
>
>>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
>>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
>>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
>>that way for many years.
>>
>>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
>>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
>>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
>>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
>>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>
>>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>>>in
>>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>>>park.
>>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>>>my
>>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>>>considered normal behavior or not.
>>>
>>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>>>just
>>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
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hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised
the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into
2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift
into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The
transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not
"shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :)
Jerry
Matt Macchiarolo wrote:
> Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
> for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the
> automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was
> the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15
> minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage.
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
> news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04...
>
>>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
>>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New
>>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been
>>that way for many years.
>>
>>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
>>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If
>>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was
>>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
>>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.
>>
>>Earle Horton wrote:
>>
>>>Jerry,
>>>
>>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
>>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
>>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
>>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
>>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
>>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
>>>in
>>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
>>>park.
>>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
>>>my
>>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
>>>considered normal behavior or not.
>>>
>>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch,
>>>just
>>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>>>
>>>Earle
>>>
>>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@***.net> wrote in message
>>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>>>
>>>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jim Smith
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.***.net/jerrypb/
>
>
>
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