97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
something breaks.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Madonna wrote:
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto, which I
> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel part-time
> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out to
> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>
> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>
> Anyway, greetings from England/
> .
>
> Keith
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
> with
> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
> > 1995.
> >
> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> > >
> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> > >
> > > Walt Johnson.
> > >
> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
something breaks.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Madonna wrote:
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto, which I
> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel part-time
> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out to
> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>
> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>
> Anyway, greetings from England/
> .
>
> Keith
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
> with
> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
> > 1995.
> >
> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> > >
> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> > >
> > > Walt Johnson.
> > >
> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
#112
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
something breaks.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Madonna wrote:
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto, which I
> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel part-time
> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out to
> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>
> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>
> Anyway, greetings from England/
> .
>
> Keith
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
> with
> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
> > 1995.
> >
> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> > >
> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> > >
> > > Walt Johnson.
> > >
> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
something breaks.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
Madonna wrote:
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto, which I
> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel part-time
> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out to
> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>
> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>
> Anyway, greetings from England/
> .
>
> Keith
>
> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
> with
> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
> > 1995.
> >
> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> > >
> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> > >
> > > Walt Johnson.
> > >
> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
#113
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>
> I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>
> What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> something breaks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Madonna wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> which I
>> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> part-time
>> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out
>> to
>> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>>
>> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>>
>> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> .
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
>> with
>> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
>> > 1995.
>> >
>> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> > >
>> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
>> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
>> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> > >
>> > > Walt Johnson.
>> > >
>> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
>> > >> My
>> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
>> > >> out
>> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> > >> minutes
>> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> > >> massive
>> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
>> > >> and
>> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>
> I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>
> What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> something breaks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Madonna wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> which I
>> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> part-time
>> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out
>> to
>> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>>
>> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>>
>> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> .
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
>> with
>> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
>> > 1995.
>> >
>> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> > >
>> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
>> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
>> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> > >
>> > > Walt Johnson.
>> > >
>> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
>> > >> My
>> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
>> > >> out
>> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> > >> minutes
>> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> > >> massive
>> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
>> > >> and
>> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
#114
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>
> I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>
> What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> something breaks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Madonna wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> which I
>> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> part-time
>> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out
>> to
>> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>>
>> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>>
>> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> .
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
>> with
>> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
>> > 1995.
>> >
>> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> > >
>> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
>> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
>> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> > >
>> > > Walt Johnson.
>> > >
>> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
>> > >> My
>> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
>> > >> out
>> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> > >> minutes
>> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> > >> massive
>> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
>> > >> and
>> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>
> I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>
> What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> something breaks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Madonna wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> which I
>> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> part-time
>> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out
>> to
>> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>>
>> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>>
>> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> .
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
>> with
>> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
>> > 1995.
>> >
>> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> > >
>> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
>> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
>> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> > >
>> > > Walt Johnson.
>> > >
>> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
>> > >> My
>> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
>> > >> out
>> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> > >> minutes
>> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> > >> massive
>> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
>> > >> and
>> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
#115
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>
> I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>
> What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> something breaks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Madonna wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> which I
>> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> part-time
>> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out
>> to
>> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>>
>> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>>
>> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> .
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
>> with
>> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
>> > 1995.
>> >
>> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> > >
>> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
>> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
>> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> > >
>> > > Walt Johnson.
>> > >
>> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
>> > >> My
>> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
>> > >> out
>> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> > >> minutes
>> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> > >> massive
>> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
>> > >> and
>> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>
> I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>
> What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> something breaks.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
> Madonna wrote:
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>>
>> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> which I
>> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> part-time
>> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out
>> to
>> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>>
>> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>>
>> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> .
>>
>> Keith
>>
>> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away
>> with
>> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until
>> > 1995.
>> >
>> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> > >
>> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby
>> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
>> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> > >
>> > > Walt Johnson.
>> > >
>> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case.
>> > >> My
>> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
>> > >> out
>> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> > >> minutes
>> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> > >> massive
>> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
>> > >> and
>> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
#116
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Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
That toy chain doesn't look very big, does it?
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
> >
> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
> >
> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> > something breaks.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Madonna wrote:
> >>
> >> Gentlemen,
> >>
> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
> >> which I
> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
> >> part-time
> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
out
> >> to
> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
> >>
> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
> >>
> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
> >> .
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
away
> >> with
> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
until
> >> > 1995.
> >> >
> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> >> > >
> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
thereby
> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> >> > >
> >> > > Walt Johnson.
> >> > >
> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> >> > >> My
> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> >> > >> out
> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> > >> minutes
> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> >> > >> massive
> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
> >
> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
> >
> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> > something breaks.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Madonna wrote:
> >>
> >> Gentlemen,
> >>
> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
> >> which I
> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
> >> part-time
> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
out
> >> to
> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
> >>
> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
> >>
> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
> >> .
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
away
> >> with
> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
until
> >> > 1995.
> >> >
> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> >> > >
> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
thereby
> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> >> > >
> >> > > Walt Johnson.
> >> > >
> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> >> > >> My
> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> >> > >> out
> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> > >> minutes
> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> >> > >> massive
> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
#117
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
That toy chain doesn't look very big, does it?
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
> >
> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
> >
> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> > something breaks.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Madonna wrote:
> >>
> >> Gentlemen,
> >>
> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
> >> which I
> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
> >> part-time
> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
out
> >> to
> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
> >>
> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
> >>
> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
> >> .
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
away
> >> with
> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
until
> >> > 1995.
> >> >
> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> >> > >
> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
thereby
> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> >> > >
> >> > > Walt Johnson.
> >> > >
> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> >> > >> My
> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> >> > >> out
> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> > >> minutes
> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> >> > >> massive
> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
> >
> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
> >
> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> > something breaks.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Madonna wrote:
> >>
> >> Gentlemen,
> >>
> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
> >> which I
> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
> >> part-time
> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
out
> >> to
> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
> >>
> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
> >>
> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
> >> .
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
away
> >> with
> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
until
> >> > 1995.
> >> >
> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> >> > >
> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
thereby
> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> >> > >
> >> > > Walt Johnson.
> >> > >
> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> >> > >> My
> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> >> > >> out
> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> > >> minutes
> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> >> > >> massive
> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
#118
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
That toy chain doesn't look very big, does it?
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
> >
> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
> >
> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> > something breaks.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Madonna wrote:
> >>
> >> Gentlemen,
> >>
> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
> >> which I
> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
> >> part-time
> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
out
> >> to
> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
> >>
> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
> >>
> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
> >> .
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
away
> >> with
> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
until
> >> > 1995.
> >> >
> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> >> > >
> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
thereby
> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> >> > >
> >> > > Walt Johnson.
> >> > >
> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> >> > >> My
> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> >> > >> out
> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> > >> minutes
> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> >> > >> massive
> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
Earle
"billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
> >
> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
> >
> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
> > something breaks.
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> >
> > Madonna wrote:
> >>
> >> Gentlemen,
> >>
> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
> >> which I
> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
> >> part-time
> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
out
> >> to
> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
> >>
> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
> >>
> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
> >> .
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
away
> >> with
> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
until
> >> > 1995.
> >> >
> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
> >> > >
> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
thereby
> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the
> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
> >> > >
> >> > > Walt Johnson.
> >> > >
> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
case.
> >> > >> My
> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start
> >> > >> out
> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
> >> > >> minutes
> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
> >> > >> massive
> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet
> >> > >> and
> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>
#119
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
It does kinda make you wonder why they don't use some kind of shear pin on
the chain instead of the transfer case shell as a safety device.
But what do I know?
"Bother" said Pooh as the transfer case exploded.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c7ddd7$0$19328$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That toy chain doesn't look very big, does it?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
>> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
>> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
>> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
>> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
>> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
>> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
>> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>> >
>> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
>> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>> >
>> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
>> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
>> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
>> > something breaks.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Madonna wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Gentlemen,
>> >>
>> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> >> which I
>> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> >> part-time
>> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
> out
>> >> to
>> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>> >>
>> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
> away
>> >> with
>> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
> until
>> >> > 1995.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
> thereby
>> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Walt Johnson.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
> case.
>> >> > >> My
>> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to
>> >> > >> start
>> >> > >> out
>> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >> > >> minutes
>> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> >> > >> massive
>> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few
>> >> > >> feet
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>
>
the chain instead of the transfer case shell as a safety device.
But what do I know?
"Bother" said Pooh as the transfer case exploded.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c7ddd7$0$19328$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That toy chain doesn't look very big, does it?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
>> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
>> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
>> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
>> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
>> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
>> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
>> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>> >
>> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
>> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>> >
>> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
>> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
>> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
>> > something breaks.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Madonna wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Gentlemen,
>> >>
>> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> >> which I
>> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> >> part-time
>> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
> out
>> >> to
>> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>> >>
>> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
> away
>> >> with
>> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
> until
>> >> > 1995.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
> thereby
>> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Walt Johnson.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
> case.
>> >> > >> My
>> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to
>> >> > >> start
>> >> > >> out
>> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >> > >> minutes
>> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> >> > >> massive
>> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few
>> >> > >> feet
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>
>
#120
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
It does kinda make you wonder why they don't use some kind of shear pin on
the chain instead of the transfer case shell as a safety device.
But what do I know?
"Bother" said Pooh as the transfer case exploded.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c7ddd7$0$19328$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That toy chain doesn't look very big, does it?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
>> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
>> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
>> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
>> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
>> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
>> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
>> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>> >
>> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
>> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>> >
>> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
>> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
>> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
>> > something breaks.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Madonna wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Gentlemen,
>> >>
>> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> >> which I
>> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> >> part-time
>> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
> out
>> >> to
>> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>> >>
>> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
> away
>> >> with
>> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
> until
>> >> > 1995.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
> thereby
>> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Walt Johnson.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
> case.
>> >> > >> My
>> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to
>> >> > >> start
>> >> > >> out
>> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >> > >> minutes
>> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> >> > >> massive
>> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few
>> >> > >> feet
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>
>
the chain instead of the transfer case shell as a safety device.
But what do I know?
"Bother" said Pooh as the transfer case exploded.
"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c7ddd7$0$19328$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> That toy chain doesn't look very big, does it?
>
> Earle
>
> "billy ray" <billy_ray@fuseSPAM.net> wrote in message
> news:398$43c7d260$4831b233$29145@FUSE.NET...
>> Pix with the result s of driving in part time 4Hi on pavement.
>> http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2117998494
>>
>> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>> news:43C7BFDD.29D94143@sympatico.ca...
>> > If you use the part time 4x4 on anything except dirt or snow, the
>> > drivetrain will bind up. This will hold it in 4x4 until you reverse or
>> > spin the tires or until it explodes something. I got stuck in 4x4
>> > recently with no way to get off the highway for a few miles and was
>> > lucky, I only exploded a front driveshaft u-joint. My old tenant did
>> > the same and exploded his transfer case into little pieces.
>> >
>> > I find with my high traction tires, I can even get bound up on dirt and
>> > need to spin my tires in reverse to let it loose.
>> >
>> > What happens is the front wheels take longer to go around a corner that
>> > the rear wheels so a tire 'must' scuff the ground because the front and
>> > rear driveshafts are locked together. If the tire can't scuff,
>> > something breaks.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
>> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>> > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
>> > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
>> > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>> >
>> > Madonna wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Gentlemen,
>> >>
>> >> What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto,
>> >> which I
>> >> recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel
>> >> part-time
>> >> and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get
> out
>> >> to
>> >> 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages.
>> >>
>> >> Always seem worse when everything is cold.
>> >>
>> >> Anyway, greetings from England/
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >> "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>> >> > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did
> away
>> >> with
>> >> > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler
> until
>> >> > 1995.
>> >> >
>> >> > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net...
>> >> > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is
>> >> > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging
>> >> > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor
>> >> > > with a new one and the problem will go away.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side
>> >> > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the
>> >> > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears
>> >> > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the
>> >> > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the
>> >> > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections
> thereby
>> >> > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the
>> >> > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message
>> >> > > to the light on the dashboard.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Walt Johnson.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> >> > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer
> case.
>> >> > >> My
>> >> > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to
>> >> > >> start
>> >> > >> out
>> >> > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15
>> >> > >> minutes
>> >> > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a
>> >> > >> massive
>> >> > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few
>> >> > >> feet
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>
>
>