Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I felt the same way, and our Cherokee was practically new when this
happened, nothing apparently wrong with it. I also figured out that anything that used that much fuel, should be able to hold a 4x8 sheet of sheetrock, or 20 of them if need be. I replaced it with a 3/4 ton Suburban, and I have been happy since. It has practically the same transfer case, a similar transmission, and doesn't give any grief shifting the transfer case. Maybe the Cherokee was broken, or maybe the Aisin transmission is just a piece of crap. I didn't feel like finding out. Earle "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:43C3E65C.FC34C3DA@sympatico.ca... > You should get your Jeep fixed in my opinion. Just because your tranny > and t-case doesn't work properly, it doesn't mean others 'must' be > broken too. > > It seems to be fairly common for one reason or another, engine and > tranny mounts getting saggy is one thing that comes to mind so they just > need a little adjustment to make up for it. > > I know I certainly wouldn't be allowed to have either of my Jeeps broken > like that! > > My wife would not put up with it even for a day because she gets off > work before the plows get going and sees bare and covered roads a lot on > the way home so shifts into and out of 4 high at every second or 3rd > intersection. You know, clear main roads and covered secondary with > some cleared through the secondaries. 4 shifts in and out at least > usually. > > If you were doing that drive daily and had to stop in traffic to shift, > you first off would look like a fool, and second would be a road hazard. > > Just my $0.02, > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > > Jim Smith wrote: > > > > No Earle, not under my skin. I haven't gone off yet in this newsgroup. > > However, I won't let someone tell me I'm wrong when I know what works for my > > Jeep. Ignorance is bliss, so I guess Jerry is one very happy person! > > > > Jim Smith > > > > "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message > > news:43c3164a$0$10305$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > > > According to the Usenet Rules of Engagement, you just let Jerry win a > > > round, > > > by letting him get under your skin. > > > > > > Earle > > > > > > "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote in message > > > news:r6WdnceaWsbCjF7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com... > > >> So there are a few others that have to shift into Neutral. > > >> > > >> What do you have to say to that Jerry? > > >> > > >> > > >> Jim Smith > > >> > > >> "Jo Bo" <jromas SPAM@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message > > >> news:p%Dwf.15070$%D1.8489@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com.. . > > >> > Jerry, > > >> > > > >> > Very sorry to disagree but I've had 2 automatic XJ's a 96 and a 99 and > > >> > they both need to be put in "N" on the transmission, not the transfer > > >> > case, to shift in or out of 4wd if your doing anything less then say 10 > > >> > MPH there's too much tension on it to shift. Also when standing still > > > it's > > >> > even worse if the transmission is put into gear while the transfer case > > > is > > >> > in neutral. That's the grinding the guy in the lodge heard his wife > > > doing. > > >> > Now a standard shift is another matter, ease up on the gas and shift. > > > Also > > >> > the vacuum disconnect is a totally different situation altogether. I > > > also > > >> > owned a 89 5 speed. > > >> > > > >> > JoBo > > >> > > > >> > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > >> > news:rCDwf.8826$V.7042@fed1read04... > > >> >> Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and > > > as > > >> >> the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like > > > you > > >> >> suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case > > >> >> lever > > >> >> back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before > > >> >> shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is > > >> >> absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help > > > accelerate > > >> >> the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit. > > >> >> > > >> >> Jim Smith wrote: > > >> >>> Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can > > > shift > > >> >>> on the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found > > > stopping > > >> >>> and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without > > > nay > > >> >>> noise or pop or bang. Just my observation. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Jim Smith > > >> >>> > > >> >>> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > > >> >>> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > > >> >>> > > >> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>Jim Smith wrote: > > >> >>>> > > >> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > > >> >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>Jim Smith > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > > >> >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com... > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. > > > My > > >> >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start > > > out > > >> >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 > > >> >>>>>>minutes > > >> >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a > > > massive > > >> >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet > > > and > > >> >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > > >> >>>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>> > > >> >>>>-- > > >> >>>>Jerry Bransford > > >> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY > > >> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at > > >> >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >> > > >> >> -- > > >> >> Jerry Bransford > > >> >> PP-ASEL N6TAY > > >> >> See the Geezer Jeep at > > >> >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
No, but both will relieve the torque load.
Shifting the transmission into N for shifting into or out of 4lo helps a lot to, but that's irrelevent to the OP's issue. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:8ESwf.9641$V.4136@fed1read04... > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> I agree, but shifting into N would have a similar effect of letting off >> the gas. > > Hopefully Matt you don't really think that shifting into N while driving > is preferrable to just backing off a bit on the gas. :) > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > tp://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
No, but both will relieve the torque load.
Shifting the transmission into N for shifting into or out of 4lo helps a lot to, but that's irrelevent to the OP's issue. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:8ESwf.9641$V.4136@fed1read04... > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> I agree, but shifting into N would have a similar effect of letting off >> the gas. > > Hopefully Matt you don't really think that shifting into N while driving > is preferrable to just backing off a bit on the gas. :) > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > tp://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
No, but both will relieve the torque load.
Shifting the transmission into N for shifting into or out of 4lo helps a lot to, but that's irrelevent to the OP's issue. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:8ESwf.9641$V.4136@fed1read04... > Matt Macchiarolo wrote: >> I agree, but shifting into N would have a similar effect of letting off >> the gas. > > Hopefully Matt you don't really think that shifting into N while driving > is preferrable to just backing off a bit on the gas. :) > > Jerry > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > tp://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Gentlemen,
What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto, which I recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel part-time and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out to 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages. Always seem worse when everything is cold. Anyway, greetings from England/ .. Keith "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com... > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away with > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until > 1995. > > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net... > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor > > with a new one and the problem will go away. > > > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message > > to the light on the dashboard. > > > > Walt Johnson. > > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Gentlemen,
What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto, which I recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel part-time and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out to 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages. Always seem worse when everything is cold. Anyway, greetings from England/ .. Keith "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com... > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away with > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until > 1995. > > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net... > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor > > with a new one and the problem will go away. > > > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message > > to the light on the dashboard. > > > > Walt Johnson. > > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >> > > > > > > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Gentlemen,
What an interesting exchange. I have a 94 Cherokee, LTD SE 4.0 Auto, which I recently bought. Same problem with shifting in and out of 4 wheel part-time and 4 wheel full time. Often sticks in 4W part time. Only way to get out to 2W is either stoop and reverse a little or wait ages. Always seem worse when everything is cold. Anyway, greetings from England/ .. Keith "Matt Macchiarolo" <matt@nospamplease.com> wrote in message news:k_KdndzdaoA8OF7eRVn-gw@comcast.com... > The '97 Cherokee does not have the front axle disconnect. They did away with > that in '92 or 93 in the Cherokee. It remained in the YJ Wrangler until > 1995. > > "Walt & Lynda Johnson" <waterbirds@usadatanet.net> wrote in message > news:3qKdnX5qVfl5gl7eRVn-qA@usadatanet.net... > > I've had exactly the same problem with my 1986 Cherokee. What is > > happening is that the vacuum motor on the axle isn't disengaging > > the axles from the differential. Simply replace the vacuum motor > > with a new one and the problem will go away. > > > > On the Cherokee, instead of freewheeling hubs, the right hand side > > axle is split with two splined sections. Normal 2WD operation the > > spline joiner is slid on to one axle section. The spider gears > > in the differential rotate in opposite directions and the > > differential center section is stationary. When placed in 4WD, the > > spline joiner slides to connect the two splined axle sections thereby > > locking up the axle. There are three hoses, one to engage the > > axle via the vacuum motor, the second to disengage the axle via the > > vacuum motor, and the third to send the "I'm locked up" message > > to the light on the dashboard. > > > > Walt Johnson. > > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >> neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >> in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >> to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >> pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >> then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >> > > > > > > |
94 Jeep Cherokee - part time 4wd Won't disengage
The OPs address going from 2w to 4wd and back. My new-to-me 94 Cherokee has
only 4H-N-4L positions. This is my first 4WD of that type. When making sharper corners, like when parking, it "crabs" like my previous 4WD vehicles would do if I had forgotten to take them out of 4WD. This can't be too good for the U-joints or other componants. Is this normal or do I need to fix something and if the latter, what?? TIA, Vito. |
94 Jeep Cherokee - part time 4wd Won't disengage
The OPs address going from 2w to 4wd and back. My new-to-me 94 Cherokee has
only 4H-N-4L positions. This is my first 4WD of that type. When making sharper corners, like when parking, it "crabs" like my previous 4WD vehicles would do if I had forgotten to take them out of 4WD. This can't be too good for the U-joints or other componants. Is this normal or do I need to fix something and if the latter, what?? TIA, Vito. |
94 Jeep Cherokee - part time 4wd Won't disengage
The OPs address going from 2w to 4wd and back. My new-to-me 94 Cherokee has
only 4H-N-4L positions. This is my first 4WD of that type. When making sharper corners, like when parking, it "crabs" like my previous 4WD vehicles would do if I had forgotten to take them out of 4WD. This can't be too good for the U-joints or other componants. Is this normal or do I need to fix something and if the latter, what?? TIA, Vito. |
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