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Jerry Bransford 01-09-2006 12:42 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual.
New Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's
been that way for many years.

I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly.
If yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something
was wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.

Earle Horton wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in
> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park.
> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my
> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
> considered normal behavior or not.
>
> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just
> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 01-09-2006 12:42 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual.
New Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's
been that way for many years.

I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly.
If yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something
was wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.

Earle Horton wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in
> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park.
> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my
> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
> considered normal behavior or not.
>
> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just
> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jerry Bransford 01-09-2006 12:42 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual.
New Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's
been that way for many years.

I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in
my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly.
If yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something
was wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but
backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process.

Earle Horton wrote:
> Jerry,
>
> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in
> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park.
> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my
> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
> considered normal behavior or not.
>
> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just
> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>
>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>>Jim Smith wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>>
>>>Jim Smith
>>>
>>>
>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

Jim Smith 01-09-2006 12:59 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
pop or bang. Just my observation.


Jim Smith

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>
> Jim Smith wrote:
>> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>>
>> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Jim Smith 01-09-2006 12:59 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
pop or bang. Just my observation.


Jim Smith

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>
> Jim Smith wrote:
>> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>>
>> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Jim Smith 01-09-2006 12:59 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and
putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or
pop or bang. Just my observation.


Jim Smith

"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>
> Jim Smith wrote:
>> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>>
>> Jim Smith
>>
>>
>> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>>>

>>
>>
>>

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Jim Smith 01-09-2006 01:00 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
My Cherokee is also an automatic and I find this to be the best way to shift
from 4H to 2H.

thanks!
Jim Smith


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c29eaf$0$31811$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Jerry,
>
> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
> in
> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
> park.
> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
> my
> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
> considered normal behavior or not.
>
> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just
> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>> Jim Smith wrote:
>> > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >
>> > Jim Smith
>> >
>> >
>> > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> >
>> >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>> >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>> >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>> >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>> >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>> >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>




Jim Smith 01-09-2006 01:00 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
My Cherokee is also an automatic and I find this to be the best way to shift
from 4H to 2H.

thanks!
Jim Smith


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c29eaf$0$31811$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Jerry,
>
> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
> in
> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
> park.
> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
> my
> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
> considered normal behavior or not.
>
> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just
> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>> Jim Smith wrote:
>> > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >
>> > Jim Smith
>> >
>> >
>> > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> >
>> >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>> >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>> >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>> >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>> >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>> >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>




Jim Smith 01-09-2006 01:00 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
My Cherokee is also an automatic and I find this to be the best way to shift
from 4H to 2H.

thanks!
Jim Smith


"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:43c29eaf$0$31811$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om...
> Jerry,
>
> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although
> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to
> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it
> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee
> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in
> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it
> in
> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in
> park.
> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on
> my
> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was
> considered normal behavior or not.
>
> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just
> out of force of habit, before shifting anything.
>
> Earle
>
> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04...
>> I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
>>
>> Jim Smith wrote:
>> > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
>> > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H?
>> >
>> > Jim Smith
>> >
>> >
>> > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>> >
>> >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
>> >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out
>> >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes
>> >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive
>> >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and
>> >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>> --
>> Jerry Bransford
>> PP-ASEL N6TAY
>> See the Geezer Jeep at
>> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>




PAPutzback 01-09-2006 02:09 PM

Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
 
I have always shifted on the fly and this problem has only reared its
head over the last six months. And I hit several lights on the way to
work so the jeep is constantly on and off as far as gas goes/tension on
the drive train. I just don't know the inner workings of the transfer
cases. Am I sliding some type of clutch plate mechanism together or am
I sliding a gear into place that engages the driveshaft to the front
differential directly? Can this be caused by low fluid perhaps is it
just showing its age. I have 120,000 miles on it and I would like to
put another 40+ on it before any major repairs are needed. Not having
the car payment has put two four wheelers and a motorcycle in my
garage.



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