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97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My
neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? Jim Smith <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? Jim Smith <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the
transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? Jim Smith <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
Jim Smith wrote: > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > > Jim Smith > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >> > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
Jim Smith wrote: > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > > Jim Smith > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >> > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :)
Jim Smith wrote: > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > > Jim Smith > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >> > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jerry,
If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park. After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was considered normal behavior or not. With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just out of force of habit, before shifting anything. Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > Jim Smith wrote: > > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > > > > Jim Smith > > > > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > > > >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jerry,
If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park. After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was considered normal behavior or not. With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just out of force of habit, before shifting anything. Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > Jim Smith wrote: > > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > > > > Jim Smith > > > > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > > > >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jerry,
If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park. After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was considered normal behavior or not. With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just out of force of habit, before shifting anything. Earle "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > Jim Smith wrote: > > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > > > > Jim Smith > > > > > > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > > > >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been that way for many years. I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. Earle Horton wrote: > Jerry, > > If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although > "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to > shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it > isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee > with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in > the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in > neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park. > After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my > boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was > considered normal behavior or not. > > With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just > out of force of habit, before shifting anything. > > Earle > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >>Jim Smith wrote: >> >>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>> >>>Jim Smith >>> >>> >>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been that way for many years. I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. Earle Horton wrote: > Jerry, > > If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although > "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to > shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it > isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee > with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in > the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in > neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park. > After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my > boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was > considered normal behavior or not. > > With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just > out of force of habit, before shifting anything. > > Earle > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >>Jim Smith wrote: >> >>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>> >>>Jim Smith >>> >>> >>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get
it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been that way for many years. I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. Earle Horton wrote: > Jerry, > > If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although > "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to > shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it > isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee > with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in > the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it in > neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in park. > After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on my > boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was > considered normal behavior or not. > > With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just > out of force of habit, before shifting anything. > > Earle > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >>Jim Smith wrote: >> >>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>> >>>Jim Smith >>> >>> >>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or pop or bang. Just my observation. Jim Smith "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > Jim Smith wrote: >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >> >> Jim Smith >> >> >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or pop or bang. Just my observation. Jim Smith "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > Jim Smith wrote: >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >> >> Jim Smith >> >> >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on
the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or pop or bang. Just my observation. Jim Smith "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > Jim Smith wrote: >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >> >> Jim Smith >> >> >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
My Cherokee is also an automatic and I find this to be the best way to shift
from 4H to 2H. thanks! Jim Smith "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message news:43c29eaf$0$31811$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > Jerry, > > If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although > "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to > shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it > isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee > with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in > the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it > in > neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in > park. > After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on > my > boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was > considered normal behavior or not. > > With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just > out of force of habit, before shifting anything. > > Earle > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >> I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >> Jim Smith wrote: >> > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >> > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >> > >> > Jim Smith >> > >> > >> > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> > >> >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >> >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >> >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >> >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >> >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >> >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Jerry Bransford >> PP-ASEL N6TAY >> See the Geezer Jeep at >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
My Cherokee is also an automatic and I find this to be the best way to shift
from 4H to 2H. thanks! Jim Smith "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message news:43c29eaf$0$31811$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > Jerry, > > If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although > "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to > shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it > isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee > with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in > the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it > in > neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in > park. > After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on > my > boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was > considered normal behavior or not. > > With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just > out of force of habit, before shifting anything. > > Earle > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >> I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >> Jim Smith wrote: >> > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >> > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >> > >> > Jim Smith >> > >> > >> > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> > >> >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >> >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >> >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >> >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >> >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >> >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Jerry Bransford >> PP-ASEL N6TAY >> See the Geezer Jeep at >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
My Cherokee is also an automatic and I find this to be the best way to shift
from 4H to 2H. thanks! Jim Smith "Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message news:43c29eaf$0$31811$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.c om... > Jerry, > > If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although > "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to > shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it > isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee > with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in > the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it > in > neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in > park. > After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on > my > boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was > considered normal behavior or not. > > With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, just > out of force of habit, before shifting anything. > > Earle > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >> I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >> Jim Smith wrote: >> > Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >> > transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >> > >> > Jim Smith >> > >> > >> > <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >> > news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... >> > >> >>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >> >>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >> >>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >> >>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >> >>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >> >>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> -- >> Jerry Bransford >> PP-ASEL N6TAY >> See the Geezer Jeep at >> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I have always shifted on the fly and this problem has only reared its
head over the last six months. And I hit several lights on the way to work so the jeep is constantly on and off as far as gas goes/tension on the drive train. I just don't know the inner workings of the transfer cases. Am I sliding some type of clutch plate mechanism together or am I sliding a gear into place that engages the driveshaft to the front differential directly? Can this be caused by low fluid perhaps is it just showing its age. I have 120,000 miles on it and I would like to put another 40+ on it before any major repairs are needed. Not having the car payment has put two four wheelers and a motorcycle in my garage. |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I have always shifted on the fly and this problem has only reared its
head over the last six months. And I hit several lights on the way to work so the jeep is constantly on and off as far as gas goes/tension on the drive train. I just don't know the inner workings of the transfer cases. Am I sliding some type of clutch plate mechanism together or am I sliding a gear into place that engages the driveshaft to the front differential directly? Can this be caused by low fluid perhaps is it just showing its age. I have 120,000 miles on it and I would like to put another 40+ on it before any major repairs are needed. Not having the car payment has put two four wheelers and a motorcycle in my garage. |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
I have always shifted on the fly and this problem has only reared its
head over the last six months. And I hit several lights on the way to work so the jeep is constantly on and off as far as gas goes/tension on the drive train. I just don't know the inner workings of the transfer cases. Am I sliding some type of clutch plate mechanism together or am I sliding a gear into place that engages the driveshaft to the front differential directly? Can this be caused by low fluid perhaps is it just showing its age. I have 120,000 miles on it and I would like to put another 40+ on it before any major repairs are needed. Not having the car payment has put two four wheelers and a motorcycle in my garage. |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Depends on what you are using to determine when it shifts. I've got
an 88 4-spd, son has a 91 auto. On both, the 4WD light is basically an idiot light - if it's on you MAY be in 4WD, especially shifting back to 2WD. Looking at the actual state of the system (like you, we both have the front axle diconnect on the axle), we usually find that both the tc and the axle are disconnected and the light is still on. I have no idea where one would adjust the switch, but it is not a positive indication od the state. The transfer case - which is the important part - will follow the shift handle but it may take a while for the axle to disengage even though the load is fairly light. As long as you get the gears disengaged in the tc there is no problem with the front axle being engaged since there is no way for it to bind up with the tc properly shifted. You might want to check adjustment of the transfer case shift rod. Could be that it has shifted and not quite getting back to 2WD when you shift now. There is just one small bolt that locks the shift rod in place by friction and it WILL slip over time. For both the XJ and the MJ, we can usually get the light to go off (it's a nuisance if it just stays on) by shifting back to 4WD then immediately into 2WD while letting up on the gas to get a higher vacuum. On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:59:43 UTC "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > > > Jim Smith wrote: > >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > >> > >> Jim Smith > >> > >> > >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> > >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > -- Will Honea |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Depends on what you are using to determine when it shifts. I've got
an 88 4-spd, son has a 91 auto. On both, the 4WD light is basically an idiot light - if it's on you MAY be in 4WD, especially shifting back to 2WD. Looking at the actual state of the system (like you, we both have the front axle diconnect on the axle), we usually find that both the tc and the axle are disconnected and the light is still on. I have no idea where one would adjust the switch, but it is not a positive indication od the state. The transfer case - which is the important part - will follow the shift handle but it may take a while for the axle to disengage even though the load is fairly light. As long as you get the gears disengaged in the tc there is no problem with the front axle being engaged since there is no way for it to bind up with the tc properly shifted. You might want to check adjustment of the transfer case shift rod. Could be that it has shifted and not quite getting back to 2WD when you shift now. There is just one small bolt that locks the shift rod in place by friction and it WILL slip over time. For both the XJ and the MJ, we can usually get the light to go off (it's a nuisance if it just stays on) by shifting back to 4WD then immediately into 2WD while letting up on the gas to get a higher vacuum. On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:59:43 UTC "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > > > Jim Smith wrote: > >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > >> > >> Jim Smith > >> > >> > >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> > >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > -- Will Honea |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Depends on what you are using to determine when it shifts. I've got
an 88 4-spd, son has a 91 auto. On both, the 4WD light is basically an idiot light - if it's on you MAY be in 4WD, especially shifting back to 2WD. Looking at the actual state of the system (like you, we both have the front axle diconnect on the axle), we usually find that both the tc and the axle are disconnected and the light is still on. I have no idea where one would adjust the switch, but it is not a positive indication od the state. The transfer case - which is the important part - will follow the shift handle but it may take a while for the axle to disengage even though the load is fairly light. As long as you get the gears disengaged in the tc there is no problem with the front axle being engaged since there is no way for it to bind up with the tc properly shifted. You might want to check adjustment of the transfer case shift rod. Could be that it has shifted and not quite getting back to 2WD when you shift now. There is just one small bolt that locks the shift rod in place by friction and it WILL slip over time. For both the XJ and the MJ, we can usually get the light to go off (it's a nuisance if it just stays on) by shifting back to 4WD then immediately into 2WD while letting up on the gas to get a higher vacuum. On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 17:59:43 UTC "Jim Smith" <j_h_smith@comcast.net> wrote: > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > > > Jim Smith wrote: > >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > >> > >> Jim Smith > >> > >> > >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> > >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > -- Will Honea |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:18:28 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>You might want to check adjustment >of the transfer case shift rod. I had this problem a while back with my '98 XJ... it would not engage 4WDH unless I first went into neutral then back into 4WDH. After the shift linkage (or rod) was adjusted the problem went away. -- Taylor '03 Audi S6 Avant '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:18:28 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>You might want to check adjustment >of the transfer case shift rod. I had this problem a while back with my '98 XJ... it would not engage 4WDH unless I first went into neutral then back into 4WDH. After the shift linkage (or rod) was adjusted the problem went away. -- Taylor '03 Audi S6 Avant '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:18:28 GMT, "Will Honea" <whonea@yahoo.com> wrote:
>You might want to check adjustment >of the transfer case shift rod. I had this problem a while back with my '98 XJ... it would not engage 4WDH unless I first went into neutral then back into 4WDH. After the shift linkage (or rod) was adjusted the problem went away. -- Taylor '03 Audi S6 Avant '05 Mazda6 Wagon GT '98 Jeep Cherokee Sport |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
On our 88 we have to bump the vacuum with a fast decel to make it shift
quick, otherwise it takes time. That is just age on leaky vacuum fittings, usually the front axle one and doesn't apply to the new ones. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Jim Smith wrote: > > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > > > Jim Smith wrote: > >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > >> > >> Jim Smith > >> > >> > >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> > >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
On our 88 we have to bump the vacuum with a fast decel to make it shift
quick, otherwise it takes time. That is just age on leaky vacuum fittings, usually the front axle one and doesn't apply to the new ones. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Jim Smith wrote: > > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > > > Jim Smith wrote: > >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > >> > >> Jim Smith > >> > >> > >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> > >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
On our 88 we have to bump the vacuum with a fast decel to make it shift
quick, otherwise it takes time. That is just age on leaky vacuum fittings, usually the front axle one and doesn't apply to the new ones. Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) Jim Smith wrote: > > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) > > > > Jim Smith wrote: > >> Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the > >> transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? > >> > >> Jim Smith > >> > >> > >> <phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message > >> news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > >> > >>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My > >>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out > >>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes > >>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive > >>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and > >>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jerry Bransford > > PP-ASEL N6TAY > > See the Geezer Jeep at > > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15 minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04... > Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get > it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New > Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been > that way for many years. > > I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in > my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If > yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was > wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but > backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. > > Earle Horton wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although >> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to >> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it >> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee >> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in >> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it >> in >> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in >> park. >> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on >> my >> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was >> considered normal behavior or not. >> >> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, >> just >> out of force of habit, before shifting anything. >> >> Earle >> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >> >>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >>> >>>Jim Smith wrote: >>> >>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>>> >>>>Jim Smith >>>> >>>> >>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Jerry Bransford >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >> >> >> > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15 minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04... > Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get > it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New > Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been > that way for many years. > > I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in > my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If > yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was > wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but > backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. > > Earle Horton wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although >> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to >> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it >> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee >> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in >> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it >> in >> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in >> park. >> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on >> my >> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was >> considered normal behavior or not. >> >> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, >> just >> out of force of habit, before shifting anything. >> >> Earle >> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >> >>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >>> >>>Jim Smith wrote: >>> >>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>>> >>>>Jim Smith >>>> >>>> >>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Jerry Bransford >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >> >> >> > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds
for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15 minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage. "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04... > Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get > it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New > Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been > that way for many years. > > I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in > my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If > yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was > wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but > backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. > > Earle Horton wrote: >> Jerry, >> >> If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although >> "theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to >> shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it >> isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee >> with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in >> the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it >> in >> neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in >> park. >> After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on >> my >> boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was >> considered normal behavior or not. >> >> With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, >> just >> out of force of habit, before shifting anything. >> >> Earle >> >> "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >> news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >> >>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >>> >>>Jim Smith wrote: >>> >>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>>> >>>>Jim Smith >>>> >>>> >>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.googl egroups.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>-- >>>Jerry Bransford >>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >> >> >> > > -- > Jerry Bransford > PP-ASEL N6TAY > See the Geezer Jeep at > http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit. Jim Smith wrote: > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >>Jim Smith wrote: >> >>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>> >>>Jim Smith >>> >>> >>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit. Jim Smith wrote: > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >>Jim Smith wrote: >> >>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>> >>>Jim Smith >>> >>> >>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Jim, your '88 and my '89 Cherokee had the exact same transfer case and
as the owners manual instructs, I NEVER had to do anything unusual like you suggest to get it to shift back into 2Hi beyond moving the t-case lever back to 2wd. Your advice saying he should shift into neutral before shifting back into 2wd is just plain 'wrong' and ill-advised. It is absolutely not necessary, the most that is ever needed to help accelerate the shift back into 2wd is to simply let off on the gas a bit. Jim Smith wrote: > Well, I've got a 1988 Cherokee that you have to do this. You can shift on > the fly, but it may take some time for it to shift. I found stopping and > putting the jeep into neutral makes it much quicker and without nay noise or > pop or bang. Just my observation. > > > Jim Smith > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... > >>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >> >>Jim Smith wrote: >> >>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>> >>>Jim Smith >>> >>> >>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.google groups.com... >>> >>> >>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Matt, my Cherokee was an automatic and the most I ever had to do to
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into 2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not "shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :) Jerry Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds > for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the > automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was > the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15 > minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage. > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04... > >>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get >>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New >>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been >>that way for many years. >> >>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in >>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If >>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was >>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but >>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. >> >>Earle Horton wrote: >> >>>Jerry, >>> >>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although >>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to >>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it >>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee >>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in >>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it >>>in >>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in >>>park. >>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on >>>my >>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was >>>considered normal behavior or not. >>> >>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, >>>just >>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything. >>> >>>Earle >>> >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >>> >>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >>>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>>>> >>>>>Jim Smith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Matt, my Cherokee was an automatic and the most I ever had to do to
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into 2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not "shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :) Jerry Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds > for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the > automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was > the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15 > minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage. > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04... > >>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get >>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New >>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been >>that way for many years. >> >>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in >>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If >>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was >>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but >>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. >> >>Earle Horton wrote: >> >>>Jerry, >>> >>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although >>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to >>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it >>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee >>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in >>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it >>>in >>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in >>>park. >>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on >>>my >>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was >>>considered normal behavior or not. >>> >>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, >>>just >>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything. >>> >>>Earle >>> >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >>> >>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >>>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>>>> >>>>>Jim Smith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
Re: 97 Jeep Cherokee 4wd - 4wd Won't disengage
Matt, my Cherokee was an automatic and the most I ever had to do to
hasten the shift back into 2wd was to let off on the gas. That raised the level of engine vacuum which helped speed up the shift back into 2wd. If things are operating correctly, there is never a need to shift into neutral to get it to complete the shift back into 2wd. The transfer case is a shift-on-the-fly, not "shift-into-neutral-then-shift-into-2wd.' :) Jerry Matt Macchiarolo wrote: > Sometimes shifting out of 4H with an automatic, it might take a few seconds > for the 'case to disengage because of the more constant torque load of the > automatic; shifting the tranny into "N" will help reduce this time. This was > the case with our '93 GC, '94 XJ and my wife's current TJL. That said, 15 > minutes as the OP wrote is definitely too long for the 'case to disengage. > > "Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message > news:Zexwf.8811$V.392@fed1read04... > >>Earl, it absolutely should not be necessary to shift into neutral to get >>it back into 2Hi whether the transmission is an automatic or manual. New >>Venture designed the transfer case to be a shift on the fly and it's been >>that way for many years. >> >>I've had several Jeeps with that same transfer case with an automatic in >>my Cherokee and a 5-speed in my TJ and both are true shift on the fly. If >>yours wouldn't shift out until you shifted into neutral, something was >>wrong somewhere. It won't always shift back into 2Hi right away but >>backing off on the gas a bit to take the load off speeds up the process. >> >>Earle Horton wrote: >> >>>Jerry, >>> >>>If it is an automatic, then it probably is necessary. Although >>>"theoretically" or according to the owner's manual one should be able to >>>shift between 4H and 2H almost any time, if the drive line is loaded it >>>isn't going to happen. I found this out when my wife had a '97 Cherokee >>>with automatic. For some reason, she tried to shift the transfer case in >>>the middle of a snow bound parking lot at the ski area. Once she got it >>>in >>>neutral, it refused to come out, until we had put the transmission in >>>park. >>>After all the grinding that I heard, while I was in the condo putting on >>>my >>>boots, we traded the vehicle in. I never did find out whether this was >>>considered normal behavior or not. >>> >>>With my Wrangler, which is manual transmission, I step on the clutch, >>>just >>>out of force of habit, before shifting anything. >>> >>>Earle >>> >>>"Jerry Bransford" <jerrypb@cox.net> wrote in message >>>news:jNwwf.8809$V.5954@fed1read04... >>> >>> >>>>I hope you're not suggesting that that is necessary. :) >>>> >>>>Jim Smith wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Just a quick question. Are you stopping the Jeep and putting the >>>>>transmission in neutral before shifting from 4H to 2H? >>>>> >>>>>Jim Smith >>>>> >>>>> >>>>><phillip_putzback@insightbb.com> wrote in message >>>>>news:1136815927.249344.47240@g49g2000cwa.goog legroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I have the 4 low - 2 high and 4 high options for the transfer case. My >>>>>>neighborhood isn't plowed normally so soem morning I have to start out >>>>>>in 4 high until I hit the main street. Then it might take 10-15 minutes >>>>>>to diesngage and lately when it finally disengages there is a massive >>>>>>pop when it disengages. I have tried going into reverse a few feet and >>>>>>then driving off but that doesn't seem to work. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>Jerry Bransford >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ >>> >>> >>> >>-- >>Jerry Bransford >>PP-ASEL N6TAY >>See the Geezer Jeep at >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ > > > -- Jerry Bransford PP-ASEL N6TAY See the Geezer Jeep at http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/ |
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