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maleemi 05-31-2007 03:49 PM

'96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
solved.....right?

Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
I'm stuck.

Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
can get the beloved jeep back on the road?


Best Regards,

Marcel

DougW 05-31-2007 05:50 PM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?


Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW



DougW 05-31-2007 05:50 PM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?


Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW



DougW 05-31-2007 05:50 PM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?


Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW



DougW 05-31-2007 05:50 PM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?


Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW



L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-01-2007 01:00 AM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-01-2007 01:00 AM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel




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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-01-2007 01:00 AM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel




--
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L.W. \(Bill\) Hughes III 06-01-2007 01:00 AM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel




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Lee Ayrton 06-01-2007 10:38 AM

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 
On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:

> maleemi wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?

>
> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>
> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.


I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
cranking.


> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
> where it is on your year.


That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that controls
the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any shifter position
other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to crank you were in
Neutral, right?

Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.



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