'96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
solved.....right?

Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
I'm stuck.

Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
can get the beloved jeep back on the road?


Best Regards,

Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?

Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?

Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?

Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

maleemi wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?

Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
(about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.

Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
where it is on your year.

--
DougW

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel



--
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Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel



--
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Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel



--
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Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Hi Marcel,
Some place you have a bad battery cable connection, I've found a couple
of wagons without a lock washer at the starter's solenoid. A bad ground will
disconnect you, too. Then there's the neutral switch:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/


"maleemi" <maleemi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:PEF7i.1529$WZ6.1273@trnddc03...
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel



--
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Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:

> maleemi wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>
> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
cranking.


> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
> where it is on your year.

That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that controls
the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any shifter position
other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to crank you were in
Neutral, right?

Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.



--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:

> maleemi wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>
> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
cranking.


> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
> where it is on your year.

That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that controls
the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any shifter position
other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to crank you were in
Neutral, right?

Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.



--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:

> maleemi wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>
> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
cranking.


> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
> where it is on your year.

That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that controls
the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any shifter position
other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to crank you were in
Neutral, right?

Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.



--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:

> maleemi wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>
> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.

I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
cranking.


> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
> where it is on your year.

That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that controls
the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any shifter position
other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to crank you were in
Neutral, right?

Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.



--
"We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.

Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
before throwing parts at it.


-rev




On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.

Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
before throwing parts at it.


-rev




On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.

Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
before throwing parts at it.


-rev




On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.

Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
before throwing parts at it.


-rev




On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.

The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.

here is a link on messing with one kind:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
> have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
> have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
> Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.
>
> Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
> before throwing parts at it.
>
>
> -rev
>
>
>
>
> On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
>> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
>> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
>> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
>> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
>> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
>> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
>> solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
>> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
>> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
>> I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Marcel
>
>

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.

The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.

here is a link on messing with one kind:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
> have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
> have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
> Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.
>
> Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
> before throwing parts at it.
>
>
> -rev
>
>
>
>
> On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
>> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
>> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
>> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
>> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
>> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
>> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
>> solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
>> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
>> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
>> I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Marcel
>
>

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.

The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.

here is a link on messing with one kind:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
> have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
> have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
> Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.
>
> Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
> before throwing parts at it.
>
>
> -rev
>
>
>
>
> On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
>> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
>> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
>> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
>> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
>> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
>> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
>> solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
>> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
>> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
>> I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Marcel
>
>

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.

The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.

here is a link on messing with one kind:
http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> My vote goes for the neutral safety switch. Pushing the Jeep couldn't
> have possibly done anything, but moving the shifter out of park might
> have caused the switch to function temporarily. I don't know what Lee
> Ayrton is smoking - it's a $15 part at Autozone.
>
> Of course, it could be something different so do some diagnostic work
> before throwing parts at it.
>
>
> -rev
>
>
>
>
> On May 31, 3:49 pm, maleemi <male...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
>> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
>> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
>> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
>> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
>> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
>> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
>> solved.....right?
>>
>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
>> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
>> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
>> I'm stuck.
>>
>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Marcel
>
>

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>
> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>
> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>

I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
in stock at my local store.

Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.


-rev

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>
> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>
> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>

I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
in stock at my local store.

Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.


-rev

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>
> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>
> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>

I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
in stock at my local store.

Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.


-rev

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>
> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>
> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>

I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
in stock at my local store.

Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.


-rev

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>>
>> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
>> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>>
>> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>>
>
> I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
> and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
> in stock at my local store.
>
> Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
> I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.
>
>
> -rev
>
>

On the older ones it was integrated with the gear shift selector on the
tranny. This was an expensive part.

Good to see someone had some brains and changed it, unusual when they
can sucker folks for 400, but hey.

Mike

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>>
>> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
>> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>>
>> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>>
>
> I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
> and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
> in stock at my local store.
>
> Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
> I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.
>
>
> -rev
>
>

On the older ones it was integrated with the gear shift selector on the
tranny. This was an expensive part.

Good to see someone had some brains and changed it, unusual when they
can sucker folks for 400, but hey.

Mike

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>>
>> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
>> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>>
>> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>>
>
> I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
> and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
> in stock at my local store.
>
> Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
> I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.
>
>
> -rev
>
>

On the older ones it was integrated with the gear shift selector on the
tranny. This was an expensive part.

Good to see someone had some brains and changed it, unusual when they
can sucker folks for 400, but hey.

Mike

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
> On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>>
>> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
>> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>>
>> here is a link on messing with one kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>>
>
> I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
> and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
> in stock at my local store.
>
> Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
> I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.
>
>
> -rev
>
>

On the older ones it was integrated with the gear shift selector on the
tranny. This was an expensive part.

Good to see someone had some brains and changed it, unusual when they
can sucker folks for 400, but hey.

Mike

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

check the groundas at the bolts were the coil bolts to the block

maleemi wrote:

> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

check the groundas at the bolts were the coil bolts to the block

maleemi wrote:

> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

check the groundas at the bolts were the coil bolts to the block

maleemi wrote:

> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

check the groundas at the bolts were the coil bolts to the block

maleemi wrote:

> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid, no
> noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the fuel
> pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc worked fine
> but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After a bit of head
> scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in neutral, pushed it
> forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it started right up. I've
> been driving for the last week and everything was fine. Problem
> solved.....right?
>
> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I put
> it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this time.....nothing. I
> hooked up jumper cables to another running car without any luck. So now
> I'm stuck.
>
> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Marcel

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Lee Ayrton proclaimed:

> On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:
>
>> maleemi wrote:
>>
>>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>>
>>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>>
>> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
>> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
>> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>>
>> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.
>
>
> I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
> motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
> cranking.
>
>
>> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
>> where it is on your year.
>
>
> That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
> transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
> working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that
> controls the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any
> shifter position other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to
> crank you were in Neutral, right?
>
> Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.
>
>
>
> --
> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>
Before you spend 400 on a part you may not need, go buy a cheap volt
meter.


First try a Sears screwdriver across the solenoid.

The formal tactic is to check the voltage at the pick drive on the start
relay in the relay box. You CAN jumper across that relay if you are
not getting pick voltage.

If you don't get pick voltage, you'll need to chase it back thru the
part/neutral switch on the transmission, back up to the ignition switch.

I fought the same issue for almost two months before I got ticked off
and chased it down....then replaced a corroded ignition switch that the
dealer swore up and down rarely ever failed.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Lee Ayrton proclaimed:

> On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:
>
>> maleemi wrote:
>>
>>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>>
>>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>>
>> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
>> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
>> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>>
>> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.
>
>
> I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
> motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
> cranking.
>
>
>> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
>> where it is on your year.
>
>
> That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
> transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
> working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that
> controls the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any
> shifter position other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to
> crank you were in Neutral, right?
>
> Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.
>
>
>
> --
> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>
Before you spend 400 on a part you may not need, go buy a cheap volt
meter.


First try a Sears screwdriver across the solenoid.

The formal tactic is to check the voltage at the pick drive on the start
relay in the relay box. You CAN jumper across that relay if you are
not getting pick voltage.

If you don't get pick voltage, you'll need to chase it back thru the
part/neutral switch on the transmission, back up to the ignition switch.

I fought the same issue for almost two months before I got ticked off
and chased it down....then replaced a corroded ignition switch that the
dealer swore up and down rarely ever failed.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Lee Ayrton proclaimed:

> On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:
>
>> maleemi wrote:
>>
>>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>>
>>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>>
>> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
>> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
>> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>>
>> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.
>
>
> I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
> motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
> cranking.
>
>
>> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
>> where it is on your year.
>
>
> That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
> transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
> working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that
> controls the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any
> shifter position other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to
> crank you were in Neutral, right?
>
> Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.
>
>
>
> --
> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>
Before you spend 400 on a part you may not need, go buy a cheap volt
meter.


First try a Sears screwdriver across the solenoid.

The formal tactic is to check the voltage at the pick drive on the start
relay in the relay box. You CAN jumper across that relay if you are
not getting pick voltage.

If you don't get pick voltage, you'll need to chase it back thru the
part/neutral switch on the transmission, back up to the ignition switch.

I fought the same issue for almost two months before I got ticked off
and chased it down....then replaced a corroded ignition switch that the
dealer swore up and down rarely ever failed.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Lee Ayrton proclaimed:

> On Thu, 31 May 2007, DougW wrote:
>
>> maleemi wrote:
>>
>>> Last week my '96 Grand Laredo 6 cyl. wouldn't start. When i turned the
>>> key nothing happened. no starter motor...no chatter of the selinoid,
>>> no noise at all except a whrrrr in the back that I assumed was the
>>> fuel pump. The battery was charged, the head lights, stereo, etc
>>> worked fine but the starter wouldn't even attempt to turn over. After
>>> a bit of head scratching and for the heck of it I put the jeep in
>>> neutral, pushed it forward a few feet and turned the key. Vroom...it
>>> started right up. I've been driving for the last week and everything
>>> was fine. Problem solved.....right?
>>>
>>> Wrong. Today I had the same problem again. The battery is charged but
>>> the starter won't even attempt to turn over. I did the thing where I
>>> put it in neutral and pushed it forward again but this
>>> time.....nothing. I hooked up jumper cables to another running car
>>> without any luck. So now I'm stuck.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any suggestions of what may be the problem and how I
>>> can get the beloved jeep back on the road?
>>
>>
>> Check the connector that runs to the crankshaft position sensor.
>> (about 11 o clock on the transmission housing) The connector is
>> either back from the throttle body or over by the dipstick.
>>
>> Disconnect, reconnect, try again.
>
>
> I don't see where the CPS has any part to play in allowing the starter
> motor to crank. A bad CPS may keep it from starting, but not from
> cranking.
>
>
>> It could also be the nutral safety switch, but I'm not sure
>> where it is on your year.
>
>
> That would by my bet. Marcel: Do you have a manual or automatic
> transmission? If it is an auto, did your back-up/reversing lights stop
> working? On the auto transmission there's a switch assembly that
> controls the backup lights and also prevents cranking while in any
> shifter position other than Park and Neutral. When you did get it to
> crank you were in Neutral, right?
>
> Bad news: For the auto that's a $400 part.
>
>
>
> --
> "We began to realize, as we plowed on with the destruction of New Jersey,
> that the extent of our American lunatic fringe had been underestimated."
> Orson Wells on the reaction to the _War Of The Worlds_ broadcast.
>
Before you spend 400 on a part you may not need, go buy a cheap volt
meter.


First try a Sears screwdriver across the solenoid.

The formal tactic is to check the voltage at the pick drive on the start
relay in the relay box. You CAN jumper across that relay if you are
not getting pick voltage.

If you don't get pick voltage, you'll need to chase it back thru the
part/neutral switch on the transmission, back up to the ignition switch.

I fought the same issue for almost two months before I got ticked off
and chased it down....then replaced a corroded ignition switch that the
dealer swore up and down rarely ever failed.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Mike Romain proclaimed:

> The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
>
>> On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>>>
>>> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
>>> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>>>
>>> here is a link on messing with one
>>> kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>>>
>>
>> I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
>> and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
>> in stock at my local store.
>>
>> Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
>> I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.
>>
>>
>> -rev
>>
>>
>
> On the older ones it was integrated with the gear shift selector on the
> tranny. This was an expensive part.
>
> Good to see someone had some brains and changed it, unusual when they
> can sucker folks for 400, but hey.
>
> Mike

On the '95 it is a simple switch, dunno why they would go backwards on
the '96, but then this *is* Chrysler. Fairly cheap switch as memory
goes.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Mike Romain proclaimed:

> The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
>
>> On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>>>
>>> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
>>> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>>>
>>> here is a link on messing with one
>>> kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>>>
>>
>> I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
>> and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
>> in stock at my local store.
>>
>> Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
>> I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.
>>
>>
>> -rev
>>
>>
>
> On the older ones it was integrated with the gear shift selector on the
> tranny. This was an expensive part.
>
> Good to see someone had some brains and changed it, unusual when they
> can sucker folks for 400, but hey.
>
> Mike

On the '95 it is a simple switch, dunno why they would go backwards on
the '96, but then this *is* Chrysler. Fairly cheap switch as memory
goes.

Re: '96 GC won't start...out of ideas
 

Mike Romain proclaimed:

> The Reverend Natural Light wrote:
>
>> On Jun 1, 5:13 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> The automatic's switch is a $400.00 freaking part.
>>>
>>> The switch can be adjusted and rebuilt usually, but then if he wiggled
>>> the gear shift just out of the exact stop area, it would start.
>>>
>>> here is a link on messing with one
>>> kind:http://www.dirtdevils.org/XJNutralSwitch.htm
>>>
>>
>> I checked Autozone.com, entered "96 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4x4 6cyl auto"
>> and clicked the Neutral Safety Switch in the electrical section. $15
>> in stock at my local store.
>>
>> Is there another neutral safety switch? If there is and it's $400,
>> I'd bypass it and put in a toggle for the reverse lights.
>>
>>
>> -rev
>>
>>
>
> On the older ones it was integrated with the gear shift selector on the
> tranny. This was an expensive part.
>
> Good to see someone had some brains and changed it, unusual when they
> can sucker folks for 400, but hey.
>
> Mike

On the '95 it is a simple switch, dunno why they would go backwards on
the '96, but then this *is* Chrysler. Fairly cheap switch as memory
goes.