Bummer, it took two thousand dollars worth of trial and errors by
the time my Brother replaced his Crankshaft Position Sensor, for the
first of three Jeeps with that same problem. Another starting position
for the computer is the Camshaft position Sensor in the distributor.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/

Le CLone wrote:
>
> well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
> now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> electric.....
>
> pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

 

The Mechanic is now in the dash cluster, i think he really don't know where
to go and he want to avoid to replace parts for nothing.
I told him that all race car have not dash and they still start..... Should
i start by replacing the Crankshaft Position Sensor ot the top dead center
sensor ?

I need my truck since im running a computer store and tommorow will be 1
week without transportation.....


--
LE CLONE

279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

le-clone@bellnet.ca
www.leclone.com
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4190061E.A30FB08@***.net...
> Bummer, it took two thousand dollars worth of trial and errors by
> the time my Brother replaced his Crankshaft Position Sensor, for the
> first of three Jeeps with that same problem. Another starting position
> for the computer is the Camshaft position Sensor in the distributor.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start
!!!!!
> > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > electric.....
> >
> > pat
> >
> > --
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

 

The Mechanic is now in the dash cluster, i think he really don't know where
to go and he want to avoid to replace parts for nothing.
I told him that all race car have not dash and they still start..... Should
i start by replacing the Crankshaft Position Sensor ot the top dead center
sensor ?

I need my truck since im running a computer store and tommorow will be 1
week without transportation.....


--
LE CLONE

279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

le-clone@bellnet.ca
www.leclone.com
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4190061E.A30FB08@***.net...
> Bummer, it took two thousand dollars worth of trial and errors by
> the time my Brother replaced his Crankshaft Position Sensor, for the
> first of three Jeeps with that same problem. Another starting position
> for the computer is the Camshaft position Sensor in the distributor.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start
!!!!!
> > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > electric.....
> >
> > pat
> >
> > --
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

 

The Mechanic is now in the dash cluster, i think he really don't know where
to go and he want to avoid to replace parts for nothing.
I told him that all race car have not dash and they still start..... Should
i start by replacing the Crankshaft Position Sensor ot the top dead center
sensor ?

I need my truck since im running a computer store and tommorow will be 1
week without transportation.....


--
LE CLONE

279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

le-clone@bellnet.ca
www.leclone.com
"L.W. (ßill) ------ III" <----------@***.net> wrote in message
news:4190061E.A30FB08@***.net...
> Bummer, it took two thousand dollars worth of trial and errors by
> the time my Brother replaced his Crankshaft Position Sensor, for the
> first of three Jeeps with that same problem. Another starting position
> for the computer is the Camshaft position Sensor in the distributor.
> God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
> mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
>
> Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start
!!!!!
> > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > electric.....
> >
> > pat
> >
> > --
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

 

Busted ground man......

You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are rotting
away right?

Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
firewall yet?

Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid steel
axle?

Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Le CLone wrote:
>
> well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
> now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> electric.....
>
> pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> le-clone@bellnet.ca
> www.leclone.com
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited
> > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> >
> > Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools
> it
> > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is
> various
> > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer
> > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > >
> > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> expensive.
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > --
> > > LE CLONE
> > >
> > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > J8P 1K6
> > > (819) 643-0511
> > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > >
> > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > www.leclone.com
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > >
> > > > This might help.
> > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > >
> > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or
> spark...
> > > ?
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> >

 

Busted ground man......

You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are rotting
away right?

Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
firewall yet?

Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid steel
axle?

Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Le CLone wrote:
>
> well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
> now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> electric.....
>
> pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> le-clone@bellnet.ca
> www.leclone.com
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited
> > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> >
> > Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools
> it
> > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is
> various
> > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer
> > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > >
> > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> expensive.
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > --
> > > LE CLONE
> > >
> > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > J8P 1K6
> > > (819) 643-0511
> > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > >
> > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > www.leclone.com
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > >
> > > > This might help.
> > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > >
> > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or
> spark...
> > > ?
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> >

 

Busted ground man......

You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are rotting
away right?

Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
firewall yet?

Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid steel
axle?

Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

Le CLone wrote:
>
> well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start !!!!!
> now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> electric.....
>
> pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> le-clone@bellnet.ca
> www.leclone.com
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have limited
> > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> >
> > Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan tools
> it
> > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is
> various
> > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer
> > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > >
> > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> expensive.
> > >
> > > Pat
> > >
> > > --
> > > LE CLONE
> > >
> > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > J8P 1K6
> > > (819) 643-0511
> > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > >
> > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > www.leclone.com
> > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > >
> > > > This might help.
> > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > >
> > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or
> spark...
> > > ?
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> >

 

Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
engine,

Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because the
day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what sensor it
essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the vehicules
is running ?


--
LE CLONE

279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

le-clone@bellnet.ca
www.leclone.com
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> Busted ground man......
>
> You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are rotting
> away right?
>
> Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> firewall yet?
>
> Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid steel
> axle?
>
> Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start
!!!!!
> > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > electric.....
> >
> > pat
> >
> > --
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have
limited
> > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan
tools
> > it
> > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is
> > various
> > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer
> > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > >
> > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > Pat
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > >
> > > > > This might help.
> > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > >
> > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or
> > spark...
> > > > ?
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >

 

Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
engine,

Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because the
day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what sensor it
essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the vehicules
is running ?


--
LE CLONE

279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

le-clone@bellnet.ca
www.leclone.com
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> Busted ground man......
>
> You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are rotting
> away right?
>
> Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> firewall yet?
>
> Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid steel
> axle?
>
> Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start
!!!!!
> > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > electric.....
> >
> > pat
> >
> > --
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have
limited
> > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan
tools
> > it
> > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is
> > various
> > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer
> > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > >
> > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > Pat
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > >
> > > > > This might help.
> > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > >
> > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or
> > spark...
> > > > ?
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >

 

Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
engine,

Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because the
day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what sensor it
essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the vehicules
is running ?


--
LE CLONE

279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511

le-clone@bellnet.ca
www.leclone.com
"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> Busted ground man......
>
> You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are rotting
> away right?
>
> Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> firewall yet?
>
> Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid steel
> axle?
>
> Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
>
> Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not start
!!!!!
> > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > electric.....
> >
> > pat
> >
> > --
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they have
limited
> > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is scan
tools
> > it
> > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their is
> > various
> > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket computer
> > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > >
> > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > expensive.
> > > >
> > > > Pat
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > >
> > > > > This might help.
> > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > >
> > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get fuel or
> > spark...
> > > > ?
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