96 GC don't start
11-10-2004, 05:25 PM
#71
Guest
Posts: n/a
FINALLY
they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
running again !
im so happy
thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
Pat
--
--
LE CLONE
279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
patrick@leclone.com
www.leclone.com
"Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
it
> been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
>
> I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
>
> Pat
>
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> from bad
> > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> stay
> > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
needs
> to
> > know were the cam sync. is
> > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> against
> > it
> >
> > Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > engine,
> > >
> > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> the
> > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
sensor
> it
> > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> vehicules
> > > is running ?
> > >
> > > --
> > > LE CLONE
> > >
> > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > J8P 1K6
> > > (819) 643-0511
> > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > >
> > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > www.leclone.com
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Busted ground man......
> > > >
> > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
rotting
> > > > away right?
> > > >
> > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > firewall yet?
> > > >
> > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
steel
> > > > axle?
> > > >
> > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> start
> > > !!!!!
> > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > electric.....
> > > > >
> > > > > pat
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > --
> > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > >
> > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > >
> > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
have
> > > limited
> > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> scan
> > > tools
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> is
> > > > > various
> > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> computer
> > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
fuel
> or
> > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
>
>
running again !
im so happy
thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
Pat
--
--
LE CLONE
279 Notre-Dame
Gatineau, Qc
J8P 1K6
(819) 643-0511
SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
patrick@leclone.com
www.leclone.com
"Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
it
> been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
>
> I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
>
> Pat
>
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> from bad
> > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> stay
> > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
needs
> to
> > know were the cam sync. is
> > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> against
> > it
> >
> > Le CLone wrote:
> >
> > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > engine,
> > >
> > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> the
> > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
sensor
> it
> > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> vehicules
> > > is running ?
> > >
> > > --
> > > LE CLONE
> > >
> > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > J8P 1K6
> > > (819) 643-0511
> > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > >
> > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > www.leclone.com
> > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > Busted ground man......
> > > >
> > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
rotting
> > > > away right?
> > > >
> > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > firewall yet?
> > > >
> > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
steel
> > > > axle?
> > > >
> > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > >
> > > > Mike
> > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > >
> > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> start
> > > !!!!!
> > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > electric.....
> > > > >
> > > > > pat
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > --
> > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > >
> > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > >
> > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
have
> > > limited
> > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> scan
> > > tools
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> is
> > > > > various
> > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> computer
> > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
fuel
> or
> > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> >
>
>
11-10-2004, 06:34 PM
#72
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: FINALLY
That's the same way my Brother learned, only the Stealership
charged him two grand the first time.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Le CLone wrote:
>
> they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
> running again !
> im so happy
> thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
>
> im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
>
> Pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
> news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
> it
> > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
> >
> > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> > from bad
> > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> > stay
> > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
> needs
> > to
> > > know were the cam sync. is
> > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> > against
> > > it
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > > engine,
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> > the
> > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
> sensor
> > it
> > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> > vehicules
> > > > is running ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Busted ground man......
> > > > >
> > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
> rotting
> > > > > away right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > > firewall yet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
> steel
> > > > > axle?
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> > start
> > > > !!!!!
> > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > > electric.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > >
> > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
> have
> > > > limited
> > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> > scan
> > > > tools
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> > is
> > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> > computer
> > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
> fuel
> > or
> > > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
charged him two grand the first time.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Le CLone wrote:
>
> they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
> running again !
> im so happy
> thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
>
> im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
>
> Pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
> news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
> it
> > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
> >
> > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> > from bad
> > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> > stay
> > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
> needs
> > to
> > > know were the cam sync. is
> > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> > against
> > > it
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > > engine,
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> > the
> > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
> sensor
> > it
> > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> > vehicules
> > > > is running ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Busted ground man......
> > > > >
> > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
> rotting
> > > > > away right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > > firewall yet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
> steel
> > > > > axle?
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> > start
> > > > !!!!!
> > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > > electric.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > >
> > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
> have
> > > > limited
> > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> > scan
> > > > tools
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> > is
> > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> > computer
> > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
> fuel
> > or
> > > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
11-10-2004, 06:34 PM
#73
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: FINALLY
That's the same way my Brother learned, only the Stealership
charged him two grand the first time.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Le CLone wrote:
>
> they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
> running again !
> im so happy
> thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
>
> im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
>
> Pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
> news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
> it
> > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
> >
> > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> > from bad
> > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> > stay
> > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
> needs
> > to
> > > know were the cam sync. is
> > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> > against
> > > it
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > > engine,
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> > the
> > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
> sensor
> > it
> > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> > vehicules
> > > > is running ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Busted ground man......
> > > > >
> > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
> rotting
> > > > > away right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > > firewall yet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
> steel
> > > > > axle?
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> > start
> > > > !!!!!
> > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > > electric.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > >
> > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
> have
> > > > limited
> > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> > scan
> > > > tools
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> > is
> > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> > computer
> > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
> fuel
> > or
> > > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
charged him two grand the first time.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Le CLone wrote:
>
> they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
> running again !
> im so happy
> thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
>
> im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
>
> Pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
> news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
> it
> > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
> >
> > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> > from bad
> > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> > stay
> > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
> needs
> > to
> > > know were the cam sync. is
> > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> > against
> > > it
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > > engine,
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> > the
> > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
> sensor
> > it
> > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> > vehicules
> > > > is running ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Busted ground man......
> > > > >
> > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
> rotting
> > > > > away right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > > firewall yet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
> steel
> > > > > axle?
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> > start
> > > > !!!!!
> > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > > electric.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > >
> > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
> have
> > > > limited
> > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> > scan
> > > > tools
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> > is
> > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> > computer
> > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
> fuel
> > or
> > > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
11-10-2004, 06:34 PM
#74
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: FINALLY
That's the same way my Brother learned, only the Stealership
charged him two grand the first time.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Le CLone wrote:
>
> they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
> running again !
> im so happy
> thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
>
> im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
>
> Pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
> news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
> it
> > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
> >
> > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> > from bad
> > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> > stay
> > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
> needs
> > to
> > > know were the cam sync. is
> > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> > against
> > > it
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > > engine,
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> > the
> > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
> sensor
> > it
> > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> > vehicules
> > > > is running ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Busted ground man......
> > > > >
> > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
> rotting
> > > > > away right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > > firewall yet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
> steel
> > > > > axle?
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> > start
> > > > !!!!!
> > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > > electric.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > >
> > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
> have
> > > > limited
> > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> > scan
> > > > tools
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> > is
> > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> > computer
> > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
> fuel
> > or
> > > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
charged him two grand the first time.
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
Le CLone wrote:
>
> they replace the parts i was suggest first the CPS and voila.... my baby is
> running again !
> im so happy
> thanks to everyone who help me on this one.
>
> im gonna drink a good cold one tonight
>
> Pat
>
> --
> --
> LE CLONE
>
> 279 Notre-Dame
> Gatineau, Qc
> J8P 1K6
> (819) 643-0511
> SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
>
> patrick@leclone.com
> www.leclone.com
> "Le CLone" <Le-clone@bellnet.ca> wrote in message
> news:nSskd.24612$km5.1244867@news20.bellglobal.com ...
> > Well i made them order the sensor today, i have a feeling this is it, and
> it
> > been a week they are trying to find the problem !!!!
> >
> > I think i will have argument when the bill will come in.
> >
> > Pat
> >
> > --
> > LE CLONE
> >
> > 279 Notre-Dame
> > Gatineau, Qc
> > J8P 1K6
> > (819) 643-0511
> > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> >
> > patrick@leclone.com
> > www.leclone.com
> > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > news:4190D9E6.EBD9FA9E@cac.net...
> > > i wrench at a jeep dealer and in a month i see zero no starts resulting
> > from bad
> > > grounds and at least2 a month with bad crank sensors esp. on the 4.0
> > > once the engine is running u can disconnect the dist. wires and it will
> > stay
> > > running it's not used until it's shut off and restarted and the pcm
> needs
> > to
> > > know were the cam sync. is
> > > now it may be a rear bird that has a bad ground but law of averages are
> > against
> > > it
> > >
> > > Le CLone wrote:
> > >
> > > > Using a test light we are able to get ground from various parts on the
> > > > engine,
> > > >
> > > > Assuming that the sensor quit while i was using the vehicules, because
> > the
> > > > day before it ran fine except it never start the day after, what
> sensor
> > it
> > > > essential for the vehicule to start but is not required when the
> > vehicules
> > > > is running ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > LE CLONE
> > > >
> > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > >
> > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> > > > news:4190F182.252BD632@sympatico.ca...
> > > > > Busted ground man......
> > > > >
> > > > > You live in the 'classic' rust belt so bad that your axles are
> rotting
> > > > > away right?
> > > > >
> > > > > Have you changed the open wire mesh ground from the engine to the
> > > > > firewall yet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you think that open mesh wire should last longer then a solid
> steel
> > > > > axle?
> > > > >
> > > > > Believe me, they rot 'way' faster than axles.......
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > > > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> > > > >
> > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > well they got the new computer today and the jeep still does not
> > start
> > > > !!!!!
> > > > > > now im really stuck behind the mechanic and my 0- knownledge in
> > > > > > electric.....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pat
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > >
> > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > "mic canic" <dbrider@cac.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:418CB96C.A135C40A@cac.net...
> > > > > > > careful !alot of cheaper scan tools will do that because they
> have
> > > > limited
> > > > > > > software that interfaces with the vehicle
> > > > > > > i see it all the time with snapon even
> > > > > > > take it to a dealer you trust it will be cheaper inthe long run
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything seem to lead to a bad computer, when he connect is
> > scan
> > > > tools
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > get not code and an error reporting to put the key on. + their
> > is
> > > > > > various
> > > > > > > > cable that have no power. He said that their is aftermarket
> > computer
> > > > > > > > available for my GC. DC want 585 CAN + tx for a new one......
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I just hope this is not a trial and error because it's getting
> > > > > > expensive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Pat
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > LE CLONE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 279 Notre-Dame
> > > > > > > > Gatineau, Qc
> > > > > > > > J8P 1K6
> > > > > > > > (819) 643-0511
> > > > > > > > SANS FRAIS 1 888 643 0511
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > le-clone@bellnet.ca
> > > > > > > > www.leclone.com
> > > > > > > > "DougW" <post.replies@invalid.address> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:LkKid.98511$tU4.89125@okepread06...
> > > > > > > > > mic canic did pass the time by typing:
> > > > > > > > > > needs a crank sensor won't get either with a bad one
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This might help.
> > > > > > > > > http://members.***.net/wilsond/cps/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I've had no-fuel, no-spark, caused by a bad ignition coil.
> > > > > > > > > The ASD (automatic shutdown relay) will turn off power to
> > > > > > > > > both the coil and the fuel pump if the jeep does not start
> > > > > > > > > in the first two to three engine revolutions.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le CLone wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> My mechanic has just reported me that he does not get
> fuel
> > or
> > > > > > spark...
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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