95 Jeep Wrangler Shifting problems
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Re: 95 Jeep Wrangler Shifting problems
Second that, Jeff. Just changed mine out for that very reason. After
swapping the mc out I looked at the insides and it was full of 'mud'
from deteriorating rubber somewhere so I swapped the slave as well.
This one was tricky: pump it up and it held for several minutes -
maybe an hour. Next time, it would bleed down so fast I had to time
it to get it in first. The piston was fine - it was the mud getting
into the valve at the end that lets in more fluid when you pump it up.
Once pumped, I rarely saw any bleed off while the clutch was in, so
it didn't act like a common mc failure.
If the brake fluid in the system is cruddy, you probably found the
problem and cause.
Advice: if you change the mc, change the slave as well (it's the
external one). The dealr only sells the 2 as a unit with the line
already attached but you can save several bucks by shopping one of the
after market parts houses - Advanced Auto and Pep Boys had it for next
day delivery. Swapping it out is simple.
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:19:01 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Mike! He has described a classic Clutch Master Cylinder failure, hasn't he?
> In which case, the fluid might not be low.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41EEEC42.798DCF58@sympatico.ca...
> > Letting up on the clutch in neutral is also double clutching which can
> > let a low fluid or water contaminated tranny shift. That implies the
> > syncros aren't spinning up.
> >
> > I would be checking the fluid first anyway just to make sure it is
> > topped up and doesn't look like a milkshake. They get water in them
> > easy if you go too deep off road, the tranny has no vent hose only a
> > button.
> >
> > After that, you get into pressure plate issues or even loose trannys or
> > hydraulics....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > solasound@comcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
> >> that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
> >> manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
> >> sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
> >> into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
> >> then it's fine...
> >>
> >> the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
> >> it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
> >>
> >> I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
> >> itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
> >> here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
> >> culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
> >> described?
> >>
> >> Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
> >> pressure plate?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
>
>
--
Will Honea
swapping the mc out I looked at the insides and it was full of 'mud'
from deteriorating rubber somewhere so I swapped the slave as well.
This one was tricky: pump it up and it held for several minutes -
maybe an hour. Next time, it would bleed down so fast I had to time
it to get it in first. The piston was fine - it was the mud getting
into the valve at the end that lets in more fluid when you pump it up.
Once pumped, I rarely saw any bleed off while the clutch was in, so
it didn't act like a common mc failure.
If the brake fluid in the system is cruddy, you probably found the
problem and cause.
Advice: if you change the mc, change the slave as well (it's the
external one). The dealr only sells the 2 as a unit with the line
already attached but you can save several bucks by shopping one of the
after market parts houses - Advanced Auto and Pep Boys had it for next
day delivery. Swapping it out is simple.
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 03:19:01 UTC "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Mike! He has described a classic Clutch Master Cylinder failure, hasn't he?
> In which case, the fluid might not be low.
>
>
>
>
> "Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:41EEEC42.798DCF58@sympatico.ca...
> > Letting up on the clutch in neutral is also double clutching which can
> > let a low fluid or water contaminated tranny shift. That implies the
> > syncros aren't spinning up.
> >
> > I would be checking the fluid first anyway just to make sure it is
> > topped up and doesn't look like a milkshake. They get water in them
> > easy if you go too deep off road, the tranny has no vent hose only a
> > button.
> >
> > After that, you get into pressure plate issues or even loose trannys or
> > hydraulics....
> >
> > Mike
> > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> >
> > solasound@comcast.net wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
> >> that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
> >> manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
> >> sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
> >> into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
> >> then it's fine...
> >>
> >> the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
> >> it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
> >>
> >> I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
> >> itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
> >> here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
> >> culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
> >> described?
> >>
> >> Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
> >> pressure plate?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance!
>
>
--
Will Honea
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Re: 95 Jeep Wrangler Shifting problems
Like other have said it is probably your master cyln. I lost mine 2
days ago and the part just arrived.... This is the second one that has
failed on me over the years and the symptom are hard shifting / spongy
pedal and fluid dripping down the fire wall inside the vehicle.
On 19 Jan 2005 11:27:22 -0800, solasound@comcast.net wrote:
>Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
>that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
>manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
>sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
>into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
>then it's fine...
>
>the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
>it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
>
>I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
>itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
>here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
>culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
>described?
>
>Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
>pressure plate?
>
>Thanks in advance!
days ago and the part just arrived.... This is the second one that has
failed on me over the years and the symptom are hard shifting / spongy
pedal and fluid dripping down the fire wall inside the vehicle.
On 19 Jan 2005 11:27:22 -0800, solasound@comcast.net wrote:
>Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
>that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
>manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
>sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
>into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
>then it's fine...
>
>the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
>it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
>
>I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
>itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
>here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
>culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
>described?
>
>Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
>pressure plate?
>
>Thanks in advance!
#33
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Re: 95 Jeep Wrangler Shifting problems
Like other have said it is probably your master cyln. I lost mine 2
days ago and the part just arrived.... This is the second one that has
failed on me over the years and the symptom are hard shifting / spongy
pedal and fluid dripping down the fire wall inside the vehicle.
On 19 Jan 2005 11:27:22 -0800, solasound@comcast.net wrote:
>Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
>that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
>manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
>sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
>into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
>then it's fine...
>
>the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
>it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
>
>I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
>itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
>here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
>culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
>described?
>
>Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
>pressure plate?
>
>Thanks in advance!
days ago and the part just arrived.... This is the second one that has
failed on me over the years and the symptom are hard shifting / spongy
pedal and fluid dripping down the fire wall inside the vehicle.
On 19 Jan 2005 11:27:22 -0800, solasound@comcast.net wrote:
>Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
>that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
>manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
>sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
>into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
>then it's fine...
>
>the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
>it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
>
>I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
>itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
>here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
>culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
>described?
>
>Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
>pressure plate?
>
>Thanks in advance!
#34
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Re: 95 Jeep Wrangler Shifting problems
Like other have said it is probably your master cyln. I lost mine 2
days ago and the part just arrived.... This is the second one that has
failed on me over the years and the symptom are hard shifting / spongy
pedal and fluid dripping down the fire wall inside the vehicle.
On 19 Jan 2005 11:27:22 -0800, solasound@comcast.net wrote:
>Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
>that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
>manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
>sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
>into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
>then it's fine...
>
>the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
>it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
>
>I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
>itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
>here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
>culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
>described?
>
>Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
>pressure plate?
>
>Thanks in advance!
days ago and the part just arrived.... This is the second one that has
failed on me over the years and the symptom are hard shifting / spongy
pedal and fluid dripping down the fire wall inside the vehicle.
On 19 Jan 2005 11:27:22 -0800, solasound@comcast.net wrote:
>Hello gentlemen I'm hoping somebody can give some insight to a problem
>that started about a month ago...I have a 95 wrangler 4.0 5-speed
>manual transmission with 105K and all of the sudden the clutch is
>sticking in gear sometimes (mostly first) amd sometimes I can't get
>into gear unless I let up on the clutch first, or pump it once, and
>then it's fine...
>
>the brake fluid level in the small reservoir was a bit low so I topped
>it off with the right stuff and drove for a few days with no change...
>
>I've done a few tests myself and I really don't think it's the clutch
>itself, it's not slipping at all or grinding...I've been lurking around
>here and it seem either the master or ugh slave cylinder are the big
>culprits? Any way to figure which it might be, from what I've
>described?
>
>Also somebody mentioned to me that I might have a broken spring in the
>pressure plate?
>
>Thanks in advance!
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