94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
06-26-2007, 05:04 PM
#21
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Can you do it in your garage? Yes, sorta, maybe, well, hmmmm, guess I
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>
06-26-2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the
AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse.
Thanks for the help.
06-26-2007, 05:29 PM
#23
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the
AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse.
Thanks for the help.
06-26-2007, 05:29 PM
#24
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the
AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse.
Thanks for the help.
06-26-2007, 05:29 PM
#25
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the
AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse.
Thanks for the help.
06-26-2007, 05:43 PM
#26
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Hey Roy,
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
06-26-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Hey Roy,
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
06-26-2007, 05:43 PM
#28
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Hey Roy,
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
06-26-2007, 05:43 PM
#29
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Hey Roy,
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
When you say Synchros, are you talking about the synchro rings that
come in a rebuild kit? Sorry I'm just unfamiliar with the
terminology.
As for doing it myself in my gerage, I have ordered a repair manual
that comes on CD and I repair automated equipment for a living, with
that said are there any special tools or "wish I would have known
that" issues I would need to know? I am a cheepskate and if I can do
it myself to save $$$$ then I can't go without trying. Thanks again
for the help
06-26-2007, 06:26 PM
#30
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Nope, no one makes a puny 9" clutch disk to fit the NV3550 nor AX15:
http://www.clutchcityonline.com/products/01-040.shtml
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>
> > You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> > syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> > While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> > The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> > Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> > The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> > designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> > is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> > a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> > -----------------
> > TheSnoMan.com
>
>
> I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the
> AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse.
> Thanks for the help.
>
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>
> > You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> > syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> > While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> > The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> > Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> > The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> > designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> > is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> > a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> > -----------------
> > TheSnoMan.com
>
>
> I have the 4cyl. Will the NV3550 be a direct bolt replacement for the
> AX5? I'm beginning to have some buyers remorse.
> Thanks for the help.
>
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