94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
06-26-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten.kap@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
>described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
>gerage?
You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
>described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
>gerage?
You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-26-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten.kap@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
>described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
>gerage?
You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
>described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
>gerage?
You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-26-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten.kap@gmail.com>
wrote:
>I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
>described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
>gerage?
You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
wrote:
>I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
>described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
>gerage?
You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
06-26-2007, 04:31 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Jun 26, 1:16 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
06-26-2007, 04:31 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Jun 26, 1:16 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
06-26-2007, 04:31 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Jun 26, 1:16 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
06-26-2007, 04:31 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
On Jun 26, 1:16 pm, SnoMan <a...@snoman.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 19:40:21 -0000, Kapper94 <otten....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> >described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> >gerage?
>
> You either have a AX5 if it is a 4 cyl or a AX15 if it is a 6 cyl. If
> syncros are going bad I would opt for a complete rebuilt or swap out.
> While they are not terrible trannies that are not great ones either.
> The AX15 is the stronger of the two but still a MD tranny at best.
> Starting around 2001 Jeep switched over to a NV3550 to replace AX15.
> The only deferrence between the NV3500 and 3550 is that the 3550 is
> designed as a direct bolt in replacement for the AX15 while the 3500
> is not. If you whant to go the swap route you should look into finding
> a used NV3550 as it is a better tranny than the AX15.
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com
Well, depending on which way you go and what you need.....how about a
brand new AX-15 & Clutch Kit, sounds like a good price and is ship-
able:
http://www.plowsite.com/showthread.php?t=46479
27 hour old posting
06-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Can you do it in your garage? Yes, sorta, maybe, well, hmmmm, guess I
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>
06-26-2007, 05:04 PM
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Can you do it in your garage? Yes, sorta, maybe, well, hmmmm, guess I
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>
06-26-2007, 05:04 PM
#20
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Re: 94 Wrangler grinds shifting into 4th, HELP! Please
Can you do it in your garage? Yes, sorta, maybe, well, hmmmm, guess I
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>
would not reccomend it. You need the factory service manual, not Hayes
or Chilton. There are enough shims, detent *****, spring clips, and
other nasty little parts to make it a bit iffy for a novice.
And an update on the 5 second spin down test: 5 seconds is the target,
10 seconds or less is certainly in the reasonable range.
Kapper94 wrote:
> On Jun 26, 12:22 pm, RoyJ <spaml...@microsoft.net> wrote:
>
>>Make sure you have the proper gear lube in the tranny. Flush and bleed
>>the clutch hydraulic system.
>>
>>If those are OK, you have a problem with the clutch or the tranny. Quick
>>test: put tranny in neutral, clutch out, rev to 1500 rpnm or so. Push
>>the clutch in, wait for 5 seconds, try to put it in reverse (no synchros
>>here). If it goes in quietly, good chance you have bad synchros on 4th
>>gear. $$$$$$ for tranny work. If it grinds the gears going into reverse,
>>the clutch is not disengaging fully. Look at bad master, slave, or
>>clutch plate.
>>
>>Mileage and engine would help.
>>
>>
>
>
> Odometer reads 108k.
> I'll try that tonight. If it acts like the bad Synchros scenario you
> described, is something an average guy could do with a manual in his
> gerage?
>