91 jeep wrangler
07-22-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
cstaylor via CarKB.com wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>>
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of
>> the transmission. Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all
> drive 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding
> noise similar to say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in
> 4lo and as u say trans is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a
> linkage prob on t-case not allowing to make transition between 2wd
> and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt have rev at all....
In that case I'd suspect the clutch is shot. 4lo requires less torque
to turn and therefore less power through the clutch and transmission.
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>>
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of
>> the transmission. Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all
> drive 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding
> noise similar to say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in
> 4lo and as u say trans is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a
> linkage prob on t-case not allowing to make transition between 2wd
> and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt have rev at all....
In that case I'd suspect the clutch is shot. 4lo requires less torque
to turn and therefore less power through the clutch and transmission.
--
DougW
07-22-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
cstaylor via CarKB.com wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>>
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of
>> the transmission. Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all
> drive 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding
> noise similar to say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in
> 4lo and as u say trans is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a
> linkage prob on t-case not allowing to make transition between 2wd
> and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt have rev at all....
In that case I'd suspect the clutch is shot. 4lo requires less torque
to turn and therefore less power through the clutch and transmission.
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>>
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of
>> the transmission. Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all
> drive 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding
> noise similar to say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in
> 4lo and as u say trans is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a
> linkage prob on t-case not allowing to make transition between 2wd
> and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt have rev at all....
In that case I'd suspect the clutch is shot. 4lo requires less torque
to turn and therefore less power through the clutch and transmission.
--
DougW
07-22-2007, 12:13 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
cstaylor via CarKB.com wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>>
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of
>> the transmission. Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all
> drive 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding
> noise similar to say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in
> 4lo and as u say trans is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a
> linkage prob on t-case not allowing to make transition between 2wd
> and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt have rev at all....
In that case I'd suspect the clutch is shot. 4lo requires less torque
to turn and therefore less power through the clutch and transmission.
--
DougW
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>>
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of
>> the transmission. Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all
> drive 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding
> noise similar to say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in
> 4lo and as u say trans is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a
> linkage prob on t-case not allowing to make transition between 2wd
> and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt have rev at all....
In that case I'd suspect the clutch is shot. 4lo requires less torque
to turn and therefore less power through the clutch and transmission.
--
DougW
07-22-2007, 12:52 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
cstaylor via CarKB.com wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
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> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
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07-22-2007, 12:52 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
cstaylor via CarKB.com wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
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07-22-2007, 12:52 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
cstaylor via CarKB.com wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2007, 12:52 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
cstaylor via CarKB.com wrote:
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
> DougW wrote:
>>> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and
>>> will not go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY
>>> IDEAS ON THIS...
>> That doesn't make any sense as the tranfer case is independant of the transmission.
>> Failure to go into gear can be all sorts of things.
>>
>> Is it a standard or automatic transmission?
>>
> manual trans guess i was little unclear trans goes into gear in all drive
> 12345 etc. but rev will not pull vehic, will make grinding noise similar to
> say a stripped gear but cant b because works fine in 4lo and as u say trans
> is unrelated to t-case.. My only guess is a linkage prob on t-case not
> allowing to make transition between 2wd and 4hi.. If trans had issues wouldnt
> have rev at all....
>
I would be looking at the tranny and engine mounts very carefully,
especially the drivers side engine mount.
When one of these goes bad or loose, it can shift the tranny physically
so the shifter hits the body. When you go to 4 low, the extra torque
twist can be just enough to let reverse slip in.
This goes double if you have a body lift on it.
Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's - Gone to the rust pile...
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
07-22-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
Fill the clutch reservoir with brake fluid, then find it's leak inside
the firewall from it's push rod or from the slave drip at bottom of
bellhousing.
You don't have one of those funning body lifts that shifted blocking the
linkage?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
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"cstaylor" <u36029@uwe> wrote in message news:7587fb292643c@uwe...
> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and will
not
> go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY IDEAS ON
THIS...
>
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the firewall from it's push rod or from the slave drip at bottom of
bellhousing.
You don't have one of those funning body lifts that shifted blocking the
linkage?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"cstaylor" <u36029@uwe> wrote in message news:7587fb292643c@uwe...
> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and will
not
> go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY IDEAS ON
THIS...
>
--
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07-22-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
Fill the clutch reservoir with brake fluid, then find it's leak inside
the firewall from it's push rod or from the slave drip at bottom of
bellhousing.
You don't have one of those funning body lifts that shifted blocking the
linkage?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"cstaylor" <u36029@uwe> wrote in message news:7587fb292643c@uwe...
> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and will
not
> go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY IDEAS ON
THIS...
>
--
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the firewall from it's push rod or from the slave drip at bottom of
bellhousing.
You don't have one of those funning body lifts that shifted blocking the
linkage?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"cstaylor" <u36029@uwe> wrote in message news:7587fb292643c@uwe...
> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and will
not
> go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY IDEAS ON
THIS...
>
--
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07-22-2007, 04:32 PM
#20
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Re: 91 jeep wrangler
Fill the clutch reservoir with brake fluid, then find it's leak inside
the firewall from it's push rod or from the slave drip at bottom of
bellhousing.
You don't have one of those funning body lifts that shifted blocking the
linkage?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"cstaylor" <u36029@uwe> wrote in message news:7587fb292643c@uwe...
> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and will
not
> go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY IDEAS ON
THIS...
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
the firewall from it's push rod or from the slave drip at bottom of
bellhousing.
You don't have one of those funning body lifts that shifted blocking the
linkage?
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:-------------------- http://www.----------.com/
"cstaylor" <u36029@uwe> wrote in message news:7587fb292643c@uwe...
> Question.. Have 91 jeep wrangler it makes gear grinding noise and will
not
> go into reverse except in 4low which it works fine... ANY IDEAS ON
THIS...
>
--
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