Troy

Heh well yeah there's an oil pressure gauge on the instrument panel, I was
somehow thinking you were meaning an external gauge that I would temporarily
hook up for a more accurate/scientific measurement. Oops

I will try to find out how to fix the idle and let ya'll know what's going
on with it afterwards.

Troy


"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:btBvg.62820$R26.15824@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> OK, now I'm officially confused. You don't have a gage but your giving
> pressure readings, are those from the gage in the instrument panel?
>
> Assuming that's the case those sound like reasonable readings to me.
>
> Thought occurred to me, if it's got 150,000 miles and the oil was pretty
> much black you may have a lifter that's sludged or varnished. I believe
> those things have pretty small holes and if they get clogged the lifter
> isn't going to work properly and it's going to click.
>
> If it was mine, the oil pressure is OK and the engine seemed to be running
> pretty well and it's just a tap or a click from fairly high up in the
> engine I think I'd just drive it, making sure to change the oil regularly,
> maybe even a bit more often than normal.
>
> With a bit of luck the problem may fix itself with that treatment, if it
> doesn't than you might try flushing the engine with some Rislone or
> something similar.
>
> But fix the idle first!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Troy wrote:
>> Nope sorry I dont have an oil pressure gauge... but I will buy one soon
>> as I get the money. Where does this gauge hook up on the engine? I've
>> never seen or used one.
>>
>> Today I wrote down the measurements on the gauges:
>> When cold, at idle: ~750 rpms in park, pressure from the gauge read ~50
>> When cold, at 2000 rpms driving: oil pressure on the gauge read ~58
>>
>> When hot driving home:
>> Idle ~250 rpms (yeah I gotta fix that,working on it) and pressure from
>> the gauge read ~20
>> Driving at 2000 rpms the oil pressure gauge read ~30
>>
>> I didn't get a chance to clean the connectors n such today, but what
>> exactly controls the idle speed? The TPS? I plan on taking alot of
>> stuff apart tomorrow and cleaning and reassembling it all.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "
>>
>>>Do you have an oil pressure gauge? It would be interesting to know how
>>>the oil pressure is doing.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>

Troy

Heh well yeah there's an oil pressure gauge on the instrument panel, I was
somehow thinking you were meaning an external gauge that I would temporarily
hook up for a more accurate/scientific measurement. Oops

I will try to find out how to fix the idle and let ya'll know what's going
on with it afterwards.

Troy


"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:btBvg.62820$R26.15824@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> OK, now I'm officially confused. You don't have a gage but your giving
> pressure readings, are those from the gage in the instrument panel?
>
> Assuming that's the case those sound like reasonable readings to me.
>
> Thought occurred to me, if it's got 150,000 miles and the oil was pretty
> much black you may have a lifter that's sludged or varnished. I believe
> those things have pretty small holes and if they get clogged the lifter
> isn't going to work properly and it's going to click.
>
> If it was mine, the oil pressure is OK and the engine seemed to be running
> pretty well and it's just a tap or a click from fairly high up in the
> engine I think I'd just drive it, making sure to change the oil regularly,
> maybe even a bit more often than normal.
>
> With a bit of luck the problem may fix itself with that treatment, if it
> doesn't than you might try flushing the engine with some Rislone or
> something similar.
>
> But fix the idle first!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Troy wrote:
>> Nope sorry I dont have an oil pressure gauge... but I will buy one soon
>> as I get the money. Where does this gauge hook up on the engine? I've
>> never seen or used one.
>>
>> Today I wrote down the measurements on the gauges:
>> When cold, at idle: ~750 rpms in park, pressure from the gauge read ~50
>> When cold, at 2000 rpms driving: oil pressure on the gauge read ~58
>>
>> When hot driving home:
>> Idle ~250 rpms (yeah I gotta fix that,working on it) and pressure from
>> the gauge read ~20
>> Driving at 2000 rpms the oil pressure gauge read ~30
>>
>> I didn't get a chance to clean the connectors n such today, but what
>> exactly controls the idle speed? The TPS? I plan on taking alot of
>> stuff apart tomorrow and cleaning and reassembling it all.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "
>>
>>>Do you have an oil pressure gauge? It would be interesting to know how
>>>the oil pressure is doing.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>

Troy

Heh well yeah there's an oil pressure gauge on the instrument panel, I was
somehow thinking you were meaning an external gauge that I would temporarily
hook up for a more accurate/scientific measurement. Oops

I will try to find out how to fix the idle and let ya'll know what's going
on with it afterwards.

Troy


"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:btBvg.62820$R26.15824@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> OK, now I'm officially confused. You don't have a gage but your giving
> pressure readings, are those from the gage in the instrument panel?
>
> Assuming that's the case those sound like reasonable readings to me.
>
> Thought occurred to me, if it's got 150,000 miles and the oil was pretty
> much black you may have a lifter that's sludged or varnished. I believe
> those things have pretty small holes and if they get clogged the lifter
> isn't going to work properly and it's going to click.
>
> If it was mine, the oil pressure is OK and the engine seemed to be running
> pretty well and it's just a tap or a click from fairly high up in the
> engine I think I'd just drive it, making sure to change the oil regularly,
> maybe even a bit more often than normal.
>
> With a bit of luck the problem may fix itself with that treatment, if it
> doesn't than you might try flushing the engine with some Rislone or
> something similar.
>
> But fix the idle first!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Troy wrote:
>> Nope sorry I dont have an oil pressure gauge... but I will buy one soon
>> as I get the money. Where does this gauge hook up on the engine? I've
>> never seen or used one.
>>
>> Today I wrote down the measurements on the gauges:
>> When cold, at idle: ~750 rpms in park, pressure from the gauge read ~50
>> When cold, at 2000 rpms driving: oil pressure on the gauge read ~58
>>
>> When hot driving home:
>> Idle ~250 rpms (yeah I gotta fix that,working on it) and pressure from
>> the gauge read ~20
>> Driving at 2000 rpms the oil pressure gauge read ~30
>>
>> I didn't get a chance to clean the connectors n such today, but what
>> exactly controls the idle speed? The TPS? I plan on taking alot of
>> stuff apart tomorrow and cleaning and reassembling it all.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "
>>
>>>Do you have an oil pressure gauge? It would be interesting to know how
>>>the oil pressure is doing.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>

Troy

Heh well yeah there's an oil pressure gauge on the instrument panel, I was
somehow thinking you were meaning an external gauge that I would temporarily
hook up for a more accurate/scientific measurement. Oops

I will try to find out how to fix the idle and let ya'll know what's going
on with it afterwards.

Troy


"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:btBvg.62820$R26.15824@tornado.southeast.rr.co m...
> OK, now I'm officially confused. You don't have a gage but your giving
> pressure readings, are those from the gage in the instrument panel?
>
> Assuming that's the case those sound like reasonable readings to me.
>
> Thought occurred to me, if it's got 150,000 miles and the oil was pretty
> much black you may have a lifter that's sludged or varnished. I believe
> those things have pretty small holes and if they get clogged the lifter
> isn't going to work properly and it's going to click.
>
> If it was mine, the oil pressure is OK and the engine seemed to be running
> pretty well and it's just a tap or a click from fairly high up in the
> engine I think I'd just drive it, making sure to change the oil regularly,
> maybe even a bit more often than normal.
>
> With a bit of luck the problem may fix itself with that treatment, if it
> doesn't than you might try flushing the engine with some Rislone or
> something similar.
>
> But fix the idle first!
>
> Jeff DeWitt
>
> Troy wrote:
>> Nope sorry I dont have an oil pressure gauge... but I will buy one soon
>> as I get the money. Where does this gauge hook up on the engine? I've
>> never seen or used one.
>>
>> Today I wrote down the measurements on the gauges:
>> When cold, at idle: ~750 rpms in park, pressure from the gauge read ~50
>> When cold, at 2000 rpms driving: oil pressure on the gauge read ~58
>>
>> When hot driving home:
>> Idle ~250 rpms (yeah I gotta fix that,working on it) and pressure from
>> the gauge read ~20
>> Driving at 2000 rpms the oil pressure gauge read ~30
>>
>> I didn't get a chance to clean the connectors n such today, but what
>> exactly controls the idle speed? The TPS? I plan on taking alot of
>> stuff apart tomorrow and cleaning and reassembling it all.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>> "
>>
>>>Do you have an oil pressure gauge? It would be interesting to know how
>>>the oil pressure is doing.
>>>
>>>Jeff DeWitt
>>
>>

jamiecarson@gmail.com

Every six to ten months I get ticking. For a long time I thought it
was lifters or exhaust noise. It drove me nuts not being able to find
the root cause. Then one day I was reading a thread about carbon
deposits not allowing valves to seat properly. I contemplated using
ATF but settled on 12 oz of water poured down the throttle body just
fast enough to make the motor start to stumble. Lot's of white smoke
out the back for a few minutes but it stops it (the ticking) almost
immediately. Lasts for a good long time. I think my Jeep runs a
llittle lean. Maybe it's just that simple for you too?

Brian

jamiecarson@gmail.com

Every six to ten months I get ticking. For a long time I thought it
was lifters or exhaust noise. It drove me nuts not being able to find
the root cause. Then one day I was reading a thread about carbon
deposits not allowing valves to seat properly. I contemplated using
ATF but settled on 12 oz of water poured down the throttle body just
fast enough to make the motor start to stumble. Lot's of white smoke
out the back for a few minutes but it stops it (the ticking) almost
immediately. Lasts for a good long time. I think my Jeep runs a
llittle lean. Maybe it's just that simple for you too?

Brian

jamiecarson@gmail.com

Every six to ten months I get ticking. For a long time I thought it
was lifters or exhaust noise. It drove me nuts not being able to find
the root cause. Then one day I was reading a thread about carbon
deposits not allowing valves to seat properly. I contemplated using
ATF but settled on 12 oz of water poured down the throttle body just
fast enough to make the motor start to stumble. Lot's of white smoke
out the back for a few minutes but it stops it (the ticking) almost
immediately. Lasts for a good long time. I think my Jeep runs a
llittle lean. Maybe it's just that simple for you too?

Brian

jamiecarson@gmail.com

Every six to ten months I get ticking. For a long time I thought it
was lifters or exhaust noise. It drove me nuts not being able to find
the root cause. Then one day I was reading a thread about carbon
deposits not allowing valves to seat properly. I contemplated using
ATF but settled on 12 oz of water poured down the throttle body just
fast enough to make the motor start to stumble. Lot's of white smoke
out the back for a few minutes but it stops it (the ticking) almost
immediately. Lasts for a good long time. I think my Jeep runs a
llittle lean. Maybe it's just that simple for you too?

Brian

Mike Romain

Another thing that causes a ticking is the notorious cracked manifold.
That can imitate a valve tick that happens as it warms up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"jamiecarson@gmail.com" wrote:
>
> Every six to ten months I get ticking. For a long time I thought it
> was lifters or exhaust noise. It drove me nuts not being able to find
> the root cause. Then one day I was reading a thread about carbon
> deposits not allowing valves to seat properly. I contemplated using
> ATF but settled on 12 oz of water poured down the throttle body just
> fast enough to make the motor start to stumble. Lot's of white smoke
> out the back for a few minutes but it stops it (the ticking) almost
> immediately. Lasts for a good long time. I think my Jeep runs a
> llittle lean. Maybe it's just that simple for you too?
>
> Brian

Mike Romain

Another thing that causes a ticking is the notorious cracked manifold.
That can imitate a valve tick that happens as it warms up.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

"jamiecarson@gmail.com" wrote:
>
> Every six to ten months I get ticking. For a long time I thought it
> was lifters or exhaust noise. It drove me nuts not being able to find
> the root cause. Then one day I was reading a thread about carbon
> deposits not allowing valves to seat properly. I contemplated using
> ATF but settled on 12 oz of water poured down the throttle body just
> fast enough to make the motor start to stumble. Lot's of white smoke
> out the back for a few minutes but it stops it (the ticking) almost
> immediately. Lasts for a good long time. I think my Jeep runs a
> llittle lean. Maybe it's just that simple for you too?
>
> Brian