Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

Hmmm.....

You know, I would highly recommend you find a local Jeep or 4x4 club and
let someone there have a look. Then see who they recommend for a fix.
What part of the world are you in?

You really could just be describing the gas tank skid plate now as being
rotted out. These are a 'wear' part that can be bought aftermarket and
installed. They hold snow and water and rot out all the time.

If you have a digital camera and want to go under to snap some shots you
can post the photos over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 or even
email them to me and I can post them on my photo album site. My email
is legit in this header.

Mine on my CJ7 let go and I lost my gas tank on the trail, 250 miles
from home, literally.... I ended up tossing the tank in the back and
running a line into the hole I tore in it to get home, but meanwhile I
can get another skid plate easily. I have one half made in the back for
it, I will finish some day so my gas tank is currently just strapped in
place with no skid plate on it. The rotted skid won't pass inspection,
but the bare tank will... I want to wait for the new frame.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



Mark Corbelli wrote:
> I went down to the garage and picked the Jeep up today. I had a broken
> driver's side door pull and had them price that, but when I heard about the
> frame problem I stopped all work. When I went to get in the Jeep, the latch
> assembly was laying in pieces on the floorboard, so I had to wait for a
> mechanic to put it back together in the pariking lot. The good news was
> first, I watched him put it back together, so if I can get the part ( a
> driver's door latch assembly), I'm sure I can do that myself. Second, we had
> a nice chat about the car. He didn't do the inspection, but we got under it
> and he pointed some stuff out. For the most part the frame, (and the Jeep in
> in general) is virtually rust free. There is a middle section that looks
> like there is a sheet metal pan attached to it, I think this holds up the
> gas tank or shields it, and that section is rusted and the pan is in pieces
> (I suspect because mechanics have been poking around the rust so much as I
> never noticed it before). Anyway, he said fabricators and race shops make
> frames all the time. He seems to think that it needs to go on a lift, a
> brace needs to be tacked on both sides to hold it while the bad section is
> cut out, then a new fabricated piece is welded in. He says the bad section
> doesn't have places where other parts are bolted on etc..fairly simple. He
> seems to think it'll cost between $800 and $1000 and the owner of the shop
> a) doesn't have the equipment/experience and 2) the shop wouldn't make any
> real money on the repair like it makes on other less complicated routine
> stuff that they can turn over quickly. Anyway, it's sitting in front of my
> house and I think I'll get some more opinions before I try to locate a
> replacement frame.
>
>

Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

Hmmm.....

You know, I would highly recommend you find a local Jeep or 4x4 club and
let someone there have a look. Then see who they recommend for a fix.
What part of the world are you in?

You really could just be describing the gas tank skid plate now as being
rotted out. These are a 'wear' part that can be bought aftermarket and
installed. They hold snow and water and rot out all the time.

If you have a digital camera and want to go under to snap some shots you
can post the photos over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 or even
email them to me and I can post them on my photo album site. My email
is legit in this header.

Mine on my CJ7 let go and I lost my gas tank on the trail, 250 miles
from home, literally.... I ended up tossing the tank in the back and
running a line into the hole I tore in it to get home, but meanwhile I
can get another skid plate easily. I have one half made in the back for
it, I will finish some day so my gas tank is currently just strapped in
place with no skid plate on it. The rotted skid won't pass inspection,
but the bare tank will... I want to wait for the new frame.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



Mark Corbelli wrote:
> I went down to the garage and picked the Jeep up today. I had a broken
> driver's side door pull and had them price that, but when I heard about the
> frame problem I stopped all work. When I went to get in the Jeep, the latch
> assembly was laying in pieces on the floorboard, so I had to wait for a
> mechanic to put it back together in the pariking lot. The good news was
> first, I watched him put it back together, so if I can get the part ( a
> driver's door latch assembly), I'm sure I can do that myself. Second, we had
> a nice chat about the car. He didn't do the inspection, but we got under it
> and he pointed some stuff out. For the most part the frame, (and the Jeep in
> in general) is virtually rust free. There is a middle section that looks
> like there is a sheet metal pan attached to it, I think this holds up the
> gas tank or shields it, and that section is rusted and the pan is in pieces
> (I suspect because mechanics have been poking around the rust so much as I
> never noticed it before). Anyway, he said fabricators and race shops make
> frames all the time. He seems to think that it needs to go on a lift, a
> brace needs to be tacked on both sides to hold it while the bad section is
> cut out, then a new fabricated piece is welded in. He says the bad section
> doesn't have places where other parts are bolted on etc..fairly simple. He
> seems to think it'll cost between $800 and $1000 and the owner of the shop
> a) doesn't have the equipment/experience and 2) the shop wouldn't make any
> real money on the repair like it makes on other less complicated routine
> stuff that they can turn over quickly. Anyway, it's sitting in front of my
> house and I think I'll get some more opinions before I try to locate a
> replacement frame.
>
>

Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

Hmmm.....

You know, I would highly recommend you find a local Jeep or 4x4 club and
let someone there have a look. Then see who they recommend for a fix.
What part of the world are you in?

You really could just be describing the gas tank skid plate now as being
rotted out. These are a 'wear' part that can be bought aftermarket and
installed. They hold snow and water and rot out all the time.

If you have a digital camera and want to go under to snap some shots you
can post the photos over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 or even
email them to me and I can post them on my photo album site. My email
is legit in this header.

Mine on my CJ7 let go and I lost my gas tank on the trail, 250 miles
from home, literally.... I ended up tossing the tank in the back and
running a line into the hole I tore in it to get home, but meanwhile I
can get another skid plate easily. I have one half made in the back for
it, I will finish some day so my gas tank is currently just strapped in
place with no skid plate on it. The rotted skid won't pass inspection,
but the bare tank will... I want to wait for the new frame.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



Mark Corbelli wrote:
> I went down to the garage and picked the Jeep up today. I had a broken
> driver's side door pull and had them price that, but when I heard about the
> frame problem I stopped all work. When I went to get in the Jeep, the latch
> assembly was laying in pieces on the floorboard, so I had to wait for a
> mechanic to put it back together in the pariking lot. The good news was
> first, I watched him put it back together, so if I can get the part ( a
> driver's door latch assembly), I'm sure I can do that myself. Second, we had
> a nice chat about the car. He didn't do the inspection, but we got under it
> and he pointed some stuff out. For the most part the frame, (and the Jeep in
> in general) is virtually rust free. There is a middle section that looks
> like there is a sheet metal pan attached to it, I think this holds up the
> gas tank or shields it, and that section is rusted and the pan is in pieces
> (I suspect because mechanics have been poking around the rust so much as I
> never noticed it before). Anyway, he said fabricators and race shops make
> frames all the time. He seems to think that it needs to go on a lift, a
> brace needs to be tacked on both sides to hold it while the bad section is
> cut out, then a new fabricated piece is welded in. He says the bad section
> doesn't have places where other parts are bolted on etc..fairly simple. He
> seems to think it'll cost between $800 and $1000 and the owner of the shop
> a) doesn't have the equipment/experience and 2) the shop wouldn't make any
> real money on the repair like it makes on other less complicated routine
> stuff that they can turn over quickly. Anyway, it's sitting in front of my
> house and I think I'll get some more opinions before I try to locate a
> replacement frame.
>
>

Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

Hmmm.....

You know, I would highly recommend you find a local Jeep or 4x4 club and
let someone there have a look. Then see who they recommend for a fix.
What part of the world are you in?

You really could just be describing the gas tank skid plate now as being
rotted out. These are a 'wear' part that can be bought aftermarket and
installed. They hold snow and water and rot out all the time.

If you have a digital camera and want to go under to snap some shots you
can post the photos over on alt.binaries.pictures.autos.4x4 or even
email them to me and I can post them on my photo album site. My email
is legit in this header.

Mine on my CJ7 let go and I lost my gas tank on the trail, 250 miles
from home, literally.... I ended up tossing the tank in the back and
running a line into the hole I tore in it to get home, but meanwhile I
can get another skid plate easily. I have one half made in the back for
it, I will finish some day so my gas tank is currently just strapped in
place with no skid plate on it. The rotted skid won't pass inspection,
but the bare tank will... I want to wait for the new frame.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)



Mark Corbelli wrote:
> I went down to the garage and picked the Jeep up today. I had a broken
> driver's side door pull and had them price that, but when I heard about the
> frame problem I stopped all work. When I went to get in the Jeep, the latch
> assembly was laying in pieces on the floorboard, so I had to wait for a
> mechanic to put it back together in the pariking lot. The good news was
> first, I watched him put it back together, so if I can get the part ( a
> driver's door latch assembly), I'm sure I can do that myself. Second, we had
> a nice chat about the car. He didn't do the inspection, but we got under it
> and he pointed some stuff out. For the most part the frame, (and the Jeep in
> in general) is virtually rust free. There is a middle section that looks
> like there is a sheet metal pan attached to it, I think this holds up the
> gas tank or shields it, and that section is rusted and the pan is in pieces
> (I suspect because mechanics have been poking around the rust so much as I
> never noticed it before). Anyway, he said fabricators and race shops make
> frames all the time. He seems to think that it needs to go on a lift, a
> brace needs to be tacked on both sides to hold it while the bad section is
> cut out, then a new fabricated piece is welded in. He says the bad section
> doesn't have places where other parts are bolted on etc..fairly simple. He
> seems to think it'll cost between $800 and $1000 and the owner of the shop
> a) doesn't have the equipment/experience and 2) the shop wouldn't make any
> real money on the repair like it makes on other less complicated routine
> stuff that they can turn over quickly. Anyway, it's sitting in front of my
> house and I think I'll get some more opinions before I try to locate a
> replacement frame.
>
>

Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

>
> Unless you enjoy the abuse, because you sure set yourself up for it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike,
You're wasting your time with Snojob.

Spdloader

Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

>
> Unless you enjoy the abuse, because you sure set yourself up for it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike,
You're wasting your time with Snojob.

Spdloader

Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

>
> Unless you enjoy the abuse, because you sure set yourself up for it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike,
You're wasting your time with Snojob.

Spdloader

Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

>
> Unless you enjoy the abuse, because you sure set yourself up for it.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)

Mike,
You're wasting your time with Snojob.

Spdloader

Re: Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:13:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Do you do this on purpose or do you have no clue how to trim a thread?
> From what I have read on several groups, you do this consistently.


I know what you purpose is, to be a troll with a ego problem. You try
to discredit anyone that you feel threatened by. Said part is
knowledge is not a threat except to maybe someone to inmature as
yourself to realize. You may think otherwise but you are still a green
horn in a 4x4 world though you are a legend in your own mind.
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Re: Re: '88 Grand Wagon frame rusted
 

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:13:11 -0400, Mike Romain <romainm@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>Do you do this on purpose or do you have no clue how to trim a thread?
> From what I have read on several groups, you do this consistently.


I know what you purpose is, to be a troll with a ego problem. You try
to discredit anyone that you feel threatened by. Said part is
knowledge is not a threat except to maybe someone to inmature as
yourself to realize. You may think otherwise but you are still a green
horn in a 4x4 world though you are a legend in your own mind.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com