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Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of
the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and engine mount lift having issues. The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used to post here and still have their YJ's. Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift on? I am confused..... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) The Merg wrote: > > the 4.0 has an electric auxiliary fan, but I believe the Taurus swap is > to replace the belt-driven fan with an electric, as it apparently bolts > perfectly onto the radiator, using existing holes even. > > You mean the air tube-into-heater vent mod? Yeah, I agree, I'd be too > worried about clogging to ever do it - I just thought it looked cool > and was a novel approach. > > On Jan 5, 6:03 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote: > > I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a > > try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I > > remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from > > another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then. > > Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in > > the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain. > > > > Earle > > > > "The Merg" <greg.merg...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would > > > that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems? > > > I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way > > > out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I > > > have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is > > > stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me. > > > Thanks guys > > > > > On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote: > > > > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of > > > > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent > > out of > > > > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk > > > > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more > > problems) > > > > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down, > > this > > > > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front > > drive > > > > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion > > *down* > > > > to correct them. > > > > > > Earle- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of
the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and engine mount lift having issues. The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used to post here and still have their YJ's. Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift on? I am confused..... Mike 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) The Merg wrote: > > the 4.0 has an electric auxiliary fan, but I believe the Taurus swap is > to replace the belt-driven fan with an electric, as it apparently bolts > perfectly onto the radiator, using existing holes even. > > You mean the air tube-into-heater vent mod? Yeah, I agree, I'd be too > worried about clogging to ever do it - I just thought it looked cool > and was a novel approach. > > On Jan 5, 6:03 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote: > > I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a > > try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I > > remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from > > another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then. > > Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in > > the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain. > > > > Earle > > > > "The Merg" <greg.merg...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would > > > that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems? > > > I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way > > > out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I > > > have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is > > > stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me. > > > Thanks guys > > > > > On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote: > > > > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of > > > > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent > > out of > > > > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk > > > > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more > > problems) > > > > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down, > > this > > > > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front > > drive > > > > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion > > *down* > > > > to correct them. > > > > > > Earle- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift
> on? I am confused..... Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, which one?" Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident it's running well enough stock. I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of > the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as > the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and > engine mount lift having issues. > > The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a > 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each > mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used > to post here and still have their YJ's. > > Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift > on? I am confused..... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift
> on? I am confused..... Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, which one?" Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident it's running well enough stock. I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of > the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as > the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and > engine mount lift having issues. > > The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a > 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each > mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used > to post here and still have their YJ's. > > Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift > on? I am confused..... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift
> on? I am confused..... Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, which one?" Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident it's running well enough stock. I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of > the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as > the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and > engine mount lift having issues. > > The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a > 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each > mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used > to post here and still have their YJ's. > > Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift > on? I am confused..... > > Mike > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
Whatever you decide, make sure it fits your needs and budget. A good SYE
will is not a basket of problems. It only takes about 2 hours from stock shaft to complete SYE installed. The t-case only needs three special tools for changing the main shaft. A 10mm 12 pt socket, inside snap right pliers, outside snap ring pliers. DO NOT attempt an SYE on an NP231 without those tools. FWIW, my YJ was my Daily driver. Work was around 25 miles away. In those days, I was a truck driver so maybe I was a little more used to sitting way up high than most. Carl "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1168040043.265669.221000@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com... >> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift >> on? I am confused..... > > Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, > which one?" > > Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think > we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the > rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident > it's running well enough stock. > > I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, > since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. > > I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes > the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: > http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm > > > > On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of >> the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as >> the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and >> engine mount lift having issues. >> >> The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a >> 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each >> mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used >> to post here and still have their YJ's. >> >> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift >> on? I am confused..... >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
Whatever you decide, make sure it fits your needs and budget. A good SYE
will is not a basket of problems. It only takes about 2 hours from stock shaft to complete SYE installed. The t-case only needs three special tools for changing the main shaft. A 10mm 12 pt socket, inside snap right pliers, outside snap ring pliers. DO NOT attempt an SYE on an NP231 without those tools. FWIW, my YJ was my Daily driver. Work was around 25 miles away. In those days, I was a truck driver so maybe I was a little more used to sitting way up high than most. Carl "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1168040043.265669.221000@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com... >> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift >> on? I am confused..... > > Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, > which one?" > > Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think > we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the > rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident > it's running well enough stock. > > I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, > since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. > > I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes > the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: > http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm > > > > On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of >> the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as >> the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and >> engine mount lift having issues. >> >> The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a >> 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each >> mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used >> to post here and still have their YJ's. >> >> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift >> on? I am confused..... >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
Whatever you decide, make sure it fits your needs and budget. A good SYE
will is not a basket of problems. It only takes about 2 hours from stock shaft to complete SYE installed. The t-case only needs three special tools for changing the main shaft. A 10mm 12 pt socket, inside snap right pliers, outside snap ring pliers. DO NOT attempt an SYE on an NP231 without those tools. FWIW, my YJ was my Daily driver. Work was around 25 miles away. In those days, I was a truck driver so maybe I was a little more used to sitting way up high than most. Carl "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1168040043.265669.221000@11g2000cwr.googlegro ups.com... >> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift >> on? I am confused..... > > Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, > which one?" > > Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think > we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the > rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident > it's running well enough stock. > > I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, > since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. > > I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes > the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: > http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm > > > > On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of >> the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as >> the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and >> engine mount lift having issues. >> >> The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a >> 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each >> mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used >> to post here and still have their YJ's. >> >> Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift >> on? I am confused..... >> >> Mike >> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 >> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's >> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! >> Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 >> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) > |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
Well, I am extremely happy with my lift. I clear everything I try, the
stock spring packs are hardtop ones so it stays level even with a load on it and it hasn't sagged in 8 years. I used to off road 'hard' some days and still load it to the roof, with racks and boxes up top and a back rack above the spare and 3 adults for a 2000 mile camping trip last summer and it purred. Here are links to some of the runs I have had it on. Most folks in these photos are from this newsgroup and alt.jeep-l. Mine is the white 'glass CJ7. Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845 Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292141347 Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351 June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291718705 Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291402603 Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290887779 Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289239511 Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=3697290093 Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2132336104 Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242 Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 Day Trip Misc. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291902217 CJ build http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292105877 Mike The Merg wrote: > > > Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift > > on? I am confused..... > > Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, > which one?" > > Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think > we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the > rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident > it's running well enough stock. > > I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, > since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. > > I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes > the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: > http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm > > On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of > > the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as > > the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and > > engine mount lift having issues. > > > > The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a > > 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each > > mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used > > to post here and still have their YJ's. > > > > Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift > > on? I am confused..... > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
Well, I am extremely happy with my lift. I clear everything I try, the
stock spring packs are hardtop ones so it stays level even with a load on it and it hasn't sagged in 8 years. I used to off road 'hard' some days and still load it to the roof, with racks and boxes up top and a back rack above the spare and 3 adults for a 2000 mile camping trip last summer and it purred. Here are links to some of the runs I have had it on. Most folks in these photos are from this newsgroup and alt.jeep-l. Mine is the white 'glass CJ7. Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Aug/01 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292076845 Jan/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4292141347 Easter/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291929351 June 16/02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291718705 Aug02 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291402603 Jan03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290887779 Aug 03 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4289239511 Summer 04 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=3697290093 Jan05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=2132336104 Aug/05 http://www.imagestation.com/album/in...?id=2120343242 Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590 Day Trip Misc. http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4291902217 CJ build http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=4292105877 Mike The Merg wrote: > > > Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift > > on? I am confused..... > > Haha..it's confusing around my house, too, with three Jeeps - "wait, > which one?" > > Obviously the body lift would be on the YJ, the shackle lift (I think > we've established it at 1.5") will be going on the same as soon as the > rear shackles come in. The XJ won't see any lift until I'm confident > it's running well enough stock. > > I think we started talking about the XJ again on the issue of the fan, > since the XJ has the 4.0 while the YJ has the 2.5. > > I did just find this write-up for an XJ DIY budget boost that utilizes > the same kind of AAL from a stock pack that you were talking about: > http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm > > On Jan 5, 6:21 pm, Mike Romain <roma...@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of > > the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as > > the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and > > engine mount lift having issues. > > > > The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a > > 1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each > > mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used > > to post here and still have their YJ's. > > > > Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift > > on? I am confused..... > > > > Mike > > 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 > > 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's > > Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view! > > Jan/06http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=2115147590 > > (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page) |
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