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The Merg 01-05-2007 05:02 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
Thanks guys

On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent out of
> alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more problems)
> becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down, this
> also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front drive
> line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion *down*
> to correct them.
>
> Earle



The Merg 01-05-2007 05:02 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
Thanks guys

On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent out of
> alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more problems)
> becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down, this
> also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front drive
> line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion *down*
> to correct them.
>
> Earle



The Merg 01-05-2007 05:02 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
Thanks guys

On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent out of
> alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more problems)
> becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down, this
> also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front drive
> line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion *down*
> to correct them.
>
> Earle



The Merg 01-05-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
the 4.0 has an electric auxiliary fan, but I believe the Taurus swap is
to replace the belt-driven fan with an electric, as it apparently bolts
perfectly onto the radiator, using existing holes even.

You mean the air tube-into-heater vent mod? Yeah, I agree, I'd be too
worried about clogging to ever do it - I just thought it looked cool
and was a novel approach.

On Jan 5, 6:03 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a
> try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I
> remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from
> another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then.
> Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in
> the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain.
>
> Earle
>
> "The Merg" <greg.merg...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
> > that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
> > I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
> > out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
> > have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
> > stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
> > Thanks guys

>
> > On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> > > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent

> out of
> > > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> > > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more

> problems)
> > > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down,

> this
> > > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front

> drive
> > > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion

> *down*
> > > to correct them.

>
> > > Earle- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



The Merg 01-05-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
the 4.0 has an electric auxiliary fan, but I believe the Taurus swap is
to replace the belt-driven fan with an electric, as it apparently bolts
perfectly onto the radiator, using existing holes even.

You mean the air tube-into-heater vent mod? Yeah, I agree, I'd be too
worried about clogging to ever do it - I just thought it looked cool
and was a novel approach.

On Jan 5, 6:03 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a
> try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I
> remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from
> another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then.
> Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in
> the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain.
>
> Earle
>
> "The Merg" <greg.merg...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
> > that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
> > I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
> > out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
> > have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
> > stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
> > Thanks guys

>
> > On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> > > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent

> out of
> > > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> > > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more

> problems)
> > > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down,

> this
> > > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front

> drive
> > > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion

> *down*
> > > to correct them.

>
> > > Earle- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



The Merg 01-05-2007 05:59 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
the 4.0 has an electric auxiliary fan, but I believe the Taurus swap is
to replace the belt-driven fan with an electric, as it apparently bolts
perfectly onto the radiator, using existing holes even.

You mean the air tube-into-heater vent mod? Yeah, I agree, I'd be too
worried about clogging to ever do it - I just thought it looked cool
and was a novel approach.

On Jan 5, 6:03 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a
> try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I
> remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from
> another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then.
> Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in
> the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain.
>
> Earle
>
> "The Merg" <greg.merg...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
> > that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
> > I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
> > out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
> > have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
> > stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
> > Thanks guys

>
> > On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> > > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent

> out of
> > > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> > > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more

> problems)
> > > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down,

> this
> > > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front

> drive
> > > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion

> *down*
> > > to correct them.

>
> > > Earle- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



Earle Horton 01-05-2007 06:03 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a
try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I
remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from
another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then.
Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in
the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
> that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
> I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
> out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
> have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
> stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
> Thanks guys
>
> On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent

out of
> > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more

problems)
> > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down,

this
> > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front

drive
> > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion

*down*
> > to correct them.
> >
> > Earle

>




Earle Horton 01-05-2007 06:03 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a
try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I
remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from
another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then.
Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in
the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
> that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
> I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
> out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
> have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
> stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
> Thanks guys
>
> On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent

out of
> > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more

problems)
> > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down,

this
> > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front

drive
> > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion

*down*
> > to correct them.
> >
> > Earle

>




Earle Horton 01-05-2007 06:03 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a
try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I
remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from
another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then.
Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in
the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain.

Earle

"The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
> that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
> I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
> out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
> have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
> stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
> Thanks guys
>
> On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent

out of
> > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more

problems)
> > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down,

this
> > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front

drive
> > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion

*down*
> > to correct them.
> >
> > Earle

>




Mike Romain 01-05-2007 06:21 PM

Re: 87 YJ magically turned into a '92 XJ
 
The fan swap will eliminate any worries, but so does raising the body of
the Jeep. The body mounts are all going up an inch, about the same as
the fan. I haven't seen or heard of many that do both the body lift and
engine mount lift having issues.

The one I have seen and helped with worked easily. It was actually a
1.5" body lift though, we took a 3" lift out of one YJ and I cut each
mount in half on my miter box for use on two of them. Both Jeepers used
to post here and still have their YJ's.

Ok I just read that again, just what Jeep engine are you doing a lift
on? I am confused.....

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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The Merg wrote:
>
> the 4.0 has an electric auxiliary fan, but I believe the Taurus swap is
> to replace the belt-driven fan with an electric, as it apparently bolts
> perfectly onto the radiator, using existing holes even.
>
> You mean the air tube-into-heater vent mod? Yeah, I agree, I'd be too
> worried about clogging to ever do it - I just thought it looked cool
> and was a novel approach.
>
> On Jan 5, 6:03 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > I am concerned about the fan capacity with a 4.0 liter engine, but give it a
> > try and save all the old pieces, just in case. I had an XJ once, and as I
> > remember the electric fan was an auxiliary device? Swapping one in from
> > another vehicle will not help your fan location problems then.
> > Incidentally, that air tube setup you posted can suck water if leaves get in
> > the heater/air conditioner intake and block the drain.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > "The Merg" <greg.merg...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:1168034542.629916.302680@s34g2000cwa.g ooglegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> > > I think I asked this before, but: if I do the taurus fan swap, would
> > > that eliminate a certain amount of fan location problems?
> > > I ask this because I have a taurus in the driveway that's on its way
> > > out. Also, which does it match up with, the 2.5L or 4.0L? Since I
> > > have one of each (two 4.0s, in the XJ and ZJ, actually but the ZJ is
> > > stayin' stock) it's a win-win for me.
> > > Thanks guys

> >
> > > On Jan 5, 4:25 pm, "Earle Horton" <e...@vascongado.usa> wrote:
> > > > Many people do both, which gives more angle for less displacement of
> > > > components. The fan can hit the shroud and your exhaust can get bent

> > out of
> > > > alignment if you are not careful. If you go with much lift, a slip yolk
> > > > eliminator or a double cardan joint shaft (more moving parts, more

> > problems)
> > > > becomes necessary. Remember if you point the engine up or the TC down,

> > this
> > > > also points the front of the transfer case up, which can lead to front

> > drive
> > > > line alignment problems. Then you may have to point the front pinion

> > *down*
> > > > to correct them.

> >
> > > > Earle- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -



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