L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Compare a spring lift to spring bending longer shackles:
http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

The Merg wrote:
>
> Ok...some photos are up, my '93 Wrangler which will be receiving a
> shackle lift in a few days when the rear shackles come in and the new
> '92 Cherokee toy. There are more pictures coming whenever photobucket
> stops being stupid and lets me upload them.
>
> http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/gmergner/

L.W.(Bill) Hughes III

Compare a spring lift to spring bending longer shackles:
http://www.----------.com/93-YJ-2.jpg
God Bless America, Bill O|||||||O
mailto:--------------------

The Merg wrote:
>
> Ok...some photos are up, my '93 Wrangler which will be receiving a
> shackle lift in a few days when the rear shackles come in and the new
> '92 Cherokee toy. There are more pictures coming whenever photobucket
> stops being stupid and lets me upload them.
>
> http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/gmergner/

Simon Juncal

Carl wrote:
> XJ's are a ton of fun and dirt cheap to buy and build. An XJ with a 3.5"
> lift and 31" tires can do a LOT of fun trails. Later on, you can boost it to
> 5.5" for around $150 with coil spring spacers, 1.25" shack;e and .75" block.
> and run 33" tires.

Or just cut the fenders like mine and run 33's on the 3.5" Rubicon
Express lift.

Lots of clearance, and if done with care it's hard to tell it didn't
come from the factory that way:

most recent shot
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ont1202dn4.jpg

close shot, also notice the cowl induction hood, I did a write up for
the hood build (it's home brew) which is on naxja.com forums. The cut at
the fender is clean enough that many people don't even notice it doesn't
have fender flares.
http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?i...decloseul3.jpg

longer view a while back before I did the hood and blacked out the red
stripe, added new style emblems etc. my other favorite toy is in the BG.
write ups for fender triming (and/or major surgery) are all over the
naxja forums
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tiblingwo4.jpg

BTW This is my 94 with 4.6 stoker, RE 3.5" lift, home brew cold air/Cowl
induction intake, 4.56 gears, front Detroit true trac, rear 8.25 axle
with upgraded factory LSD. ZJ disk brake conversion (front and rear
disks) and a hundred other oddball custom bits.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal

Carl wrote:
> XJ's are a ton of fun and dirt cheap to buy and build. An XJ with a 3.5"
> lift and 31" tires can do a LOT of fun trails. Later on, you can boost it to
> 5.5" for around $150 with coil spring spacers, 1.25" shack;e and .75" block.
> and run 33" tires.

Or just cut the fenders like mine and run 33's on the 3.5" Rubicon
Express lift.

Lots of clearance, and if done with care it's hard to tell it didn't
come from the factory that way:

most recent shot
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ont1202dn4.jpg

close shot, also notice the cowl induction hood, I did a write up for
the hood build (it's home brew) which is on naxja.com forums. The cut at
the fender is clean enough that many people don't even notice it doesn't
have fender flares.
http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?i...decloseul3.jpg

longer view a while back before I did the hood and blacked out the red
stripe, added new style emblems etc. my other favorite toy is in the BG.
write ups for fender triming (and/or major surgery) are all over the
naxja forums
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tiblingwo4.jpg

BTW This is my 94 with 4.6 stoker, RE 3.5" lift, home brew cold air/Cowl
induction intake, 4.56 gears, front Detroit true trac, rear 8.25 axle
with upgraded factory LSD. ZJ disk brake conversion (front and rear
disks) and a hundred other oddball custom bits.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Simon Juncal

Carl wrote:
> XJ's are a ton of fun and dirt cheap to buy and build. An XJ with a 3.5"
> lift and 31" tires can do a LOT of fun trails. Later on, you can boost it to
> 5.5" for around $150 with coil spring spacers, 1.25" shack;e and .75" block.
> and run 33" tires.

Or just cut the fenders like mine and run 33's on the 3.5" Rubicon
Express lift.

Lots of clearance, and if done with care it's hard to tell it didn't
come from the factory that way:

most recent shot
http://img142.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ont1202dn4.jpg

close shot, also notice the cowl induction hood, I did a write up for
the hood build (it's home brew) which is on naxja.com forums. The cut at
the fender is clean enough that many people don't even notice it doesn't
have fender flares.
http://img176.imageshack.us/my.php?i...decloseul3.jpg

longer view a while back before I did the hood and blacked out the red
stripe, added new style emblems etc. my other favorite toy is in the BG.
write ups for fender triming (and/or major surgery) are all over the
naxja forums
http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?i...tiblingwo4.jpg

BTW This is my 94 with 4.6 stoker, RE 3.5" lift, home brew cold air/Cowl
induction intake, 4.56 gears, front Detroit true trac, rear 8.25 axle
with upgraded factory LSD. ZJ disk brake conversion (front and rear
disks) and a hundred other oddball custom bits.

--
Simon
"I may be wrong, but I'm not uncertain." -- Robert A. Heinlein

Mike Romain

You are going with a shackle lift on a YJ????

Man dealing with all those shims to attempt to have any hope of a front
end alignment isn't my idea of fun....

You should get new spring u-bolts also because the old ones have likely
stretched too much already to ever stay tight again. You will need
these for the shims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


The Merg wrote:
>
> Ok...some photos are up, my '93 Wrangler which will be receiving a
> shackle lift in a few days when the rear shackles come in and the new
> '92 Cherokee toy. There are more pictures coming whenever photobucket
> stops being stupid and lets me upload them.
>
> http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/gmergner/
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > I know, I know. I didn't want to leave it in gear, just couldn't get
> > it out of gear. Next time I'll try harder, I swear.
> >
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> > > Why you shouldn't drive Part Time 4WD on the roadway
> > >
> > > http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...%20Time%204WD/
> > >
> > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1166980315.425760.49070@n51g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >I drove it around a little after getting it home, tranny seemed to have
> > > > survived. So would a good idea have been to drive it in 4wd for a bit
> > > > before throwing it up on the tow dolly and then trying to put it in
> > > > neutral?
> > > >
> > > > Of course I'm sure we'd all agree that off-roading is purely for TC
> > > > maintenance.
> > > >
> > > > i have a Canon camera that worked fine before, but I installed a new
> > > > printer recently which apparently deleted necessary programs. I just
> > > > have to find the install cds again.
> > > >
> > > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > >> The transfer case is capable of oiling itself when towed in neutral, but
> > > >> neither the auto nor the standard transmission will pump oil when driven
> > > >> by
> > > >> the TC and the engine not running. This is why you are instructed to tow
> > > >> with the transmission in park (auto) or in gear (standard) and the TC in
> > > >> neutral. If you towed it far enough this way you are going to have
> > > >> problems
> > > >> from running the transmission unlubricated. The other thing you could
> > > >> have
> > > >> done was to remove the rear drive shaft.
> > > >>
> > > >> The most likely cause of the TC not going into neutral is the shift
> > > >> mechanism being stiff from disuse. That is the main reason we take our
> > > >> rigs
> > > >> off road, to keep the TC shift mechanism in working order. ;^) You could
> > > >> of
> > > >> course have a bad TC, but that is unlikely. Most people who own these
> > > >> vehicles seldom if ever put them in 4wd.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have good results with Kodak EasyShare, www.kodak.com.
> > > >>
> > > >> Earle
> > > >

Mike Romain

You are going with a shackle lift on a YJ????

Man dealing with all those shims to attempt to have any hope of a front
end alignment isn't my idea of fun....

You should get new spring u-bolts also because the old ones have likely
stretched too much already to ever stay tight again. You will need
these for the shims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


The Merg wrote:
>
> Ok...some photos are up, my '93 Wrangler which will be receiving a
> shackle lift in a few days when the rear shackles come in and the new
> '92 Cherokee toy. There are more pictures coming whenever photobucket
> stops being stupid and lets me upload them.
>
> http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/gmergner/
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > I know, I know. I didn't want to leave it in gear, just couldn't get
> > it out of gear. Next time I'll try harder, I swear.
> >
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> > > Why you shouldn't drive Part Time 4WD on the roadway
> > >
> > > http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...%20Time%204WD/
> > >
> > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1166980315.425760.49070@n51g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >I drove it around a little after getting it home, tranny seemed to have
> > > > survived. So would a good idea have been to drive it in 4wd for a bit
> > > > before throwing it up on the tow dolly and then trying to put it in
> > > > neutral?
> > > >
> > > > Of course I'm sure we'd all agree that off-roading is purely for TC
> > > > maintenance.
> > > >
> > > > i have a Canon camera that worked fine before, but I installed a new
> > > > printer recently which apparently deleted necessary programs. I just
> > > > have to find the install cds again.
> > > >
> > > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > >> The transfer case is capable of oiling itself when towed in neutral, but
> > > >> neither the auto nor the standard transmission will pump oil when driven
> > > >> by
> > > >> the TC and the engine not running. This is why you are instructed to tow
> > > >> with the transmission in park (auto) or in gear (standard) and the TC in
> > > >> neutral. If you towed it far enough this way you are going to have
> > > >> problems
> > > >> from running the transmission unlubricated. The other thing you could
> > > >> have
> > > >> done was to remove the rear drive shaft.
> > > >>
> > > >> The most likely cause of the TC not going into neutral is the shift
> > > >> mechanism being stiff from disuse. That is the main reason we take our
> > > >> rigs
> > > >> off road, to keep the TC shift mechanism in working order. ;^) You could
> > > >> of
> > > >> course have a bad TC, but that is unlikely. Most people who own these
> > > >> vehicles seldom if ever put them in 4wd.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have good results with Kodak EasyShare, www.kodak.com.
> > > >>
> > > >> Earle
> > > >

Mike Romain

You are going with a shackle lift on a YJ????

Man dealing with all those shims to attempt to have any hope of a front
end alignment isn't my idea of fun....

You should get new spring u-bolts also because the old ones have likely
stretched too much already to ever stay tight again. You will need
these for the shims.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
(More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)


The Merg wrote:
>
> Ok...some photos are up, my '93 Wrangler which will be receiving a
> shackle lift in a few days when the rear shackles come in and the new
> '92 Cherokee toy. There are more pictures coming whenever photobucket
> stops being stupid and lets me upload them.
>
> http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/gmergner/
>
> The Merg wrote:
> > I know, I know. I didn't want to leave it in gear, just couldn't get
> > it out of gear. Next time I'll try harder, I swear.
> >
> >
> > billy ray wrote:
> > > Why you shouldn't drive Part Time 4WD on the roadway
> > >
> > > http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...%20Time%204WD/
> > >
> > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:1166980315.425760.49070@n51g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > > >I drove it around a little after getting it home, tranny seemed to have
> > > > survived. So would a good idea have been to drive it in 4wd for a bit
> > > > before throwing it up on the tow dolly and then trying to put it in
> > > > neutral?
> > > >
> > > > Of course I'm sure we'd all agree that off-roading is purely for TC
> > > > maintenance.
> > > >
> > > > i have a Canon camera that worked fine before, but I installed a new
> > > > printer recently which apparently deleted necessary programs. I just
> > > > have to find the install cds again.
> > > >
> > > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > >> The transfer case is capable of oiling itself when towed in neutral, but
> > > >> neither the auto nor the standard transmission will pump oil when driven
> > > >> by
> > > >> the TC and the engine not running. This is why you are instructed to tow
> > > >> with the transmission in park (auto) or in gear (standard) and the TC in
> > > >> neutral. If you towed it far enough this way you are going to have
> > > >> problems
> > > >> from running the transmission unlubricated. The other thing you could
> > > >> have
> > > >> done was to remove the rear drive shaft.
> > > >>
> > > >> The most likely cause of the TC not going into neutral is the shift
> > > >> mechanism being stiff from disuse. That is the main reason we take our
> > > >> rigs
> > > >> off road, to keep the TC shift mechanism in working order. ;^) You could
> > > >> of
> > > >> course have a bad TC, but that is unlikely. Most people who own these
> > > >> vehicles seldom if ever put them in 4wd.
> > > >>
> > > >> I have good results with Kodak EasyShare, www.kodak.com.
> > > >>
> > > >> Earle
> > > >

Earle Horton

Shackle lifts look dumb too. If you don't have the money to do it right,
then don't do it.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45915081.95E9F413@sympatico.ca...
> You are going with a shackle lift on a YJ????
>
> Man dealing with all those shims to attempt to have any hope of a front
> end alignment isn't my idea of fun....
>
> You should get new spring u-bolts also because the old ones have likely
> stretched too much already to ever stay tight again. You will need
> these for the shims.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> The Merg wrote:
> >
> > Ok...some photos are up, my '93 Wrangler which will be receiving a
> > shackle lift in a few days when the rear shackles come in and the new
> > '92 Cherokee toy. There are more pictures coming whenever photobucket
> > stops being stupid and lets me upload them.
> >
> > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/gmergner/
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> > > I know, I know. I didn't want to leave it in gear, just couldn't get
> > > it out of gear. Next time I'll try harder, I swear.
> > >
> > >
> > > billy ray wrote:
> > > > Why you shouldn't drive Part Time 4WD on the roadway
> > > >
> > > >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...%20Time%204WD/
> > > >
> > > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1166980315.425760.49070@n51g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > > > >I drove it around a little after getting it home, tranny seemed to
have
> > > > > survived. So would a good idea have been to drive it in 4wd for a
bit
> > > > > before throwing it up on the tow dolly and then trying to put it
in
> > > > > neutral?
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course I'm sure we'd all agree that off-roading is purely for
TC
> > > > > maintenance.
> > > > >
> > > > > i have a Canon camera that worked fine before, but I installed a
new
> > > > > printer recently which apparently deleted necessary programs. I
just
> > > > > have to find the install cds again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > > >> The transfer case is capable of oiling itself when towed in
neutral, but
> > > > >> neither the auto nor the standard transmission will pump oil when
driven
> > > > >> by
> > > > >> the TC and the engine not running. This is why you are
instructed to tow
> > > > >> with the transmission in park (auto) or in gear (standard) and
the TC in
> > > > >> neutral. If you towed it far enough this way you are going to
have
> > > > >> problems
> > > > >> from running the transmission unlubricated. The other thing you
could
> > > > >> have
> > > > >> done was to remove the rear drive shaft.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The most likely cause of the TC not going into neutral is the
shift
> > > > >> mechanism being stiff from disuse. That is the main reason we
take our
> > > > >> rigs
> > > > >> off road, to keep the TC shift mechanism in working order. ;^)
You could
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> course have a bad TC, but that is unlikely. Most people who own
these
> > > > >> vehicles seldom if ever put them in 4wd.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have good results with Kodak EasyShare, www.kodak.com.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Earle
> > > > >

Earle Horton

Shackle lifts look dumb too. If you don't have the money to do it right,
then don't do it.

Earle

"Mike Romain" <romainm@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:45915081.95E9F413@sympatico.ca...
> You are going with a shackle lift on a YJ????
>
> Man dealing with all those shims to attempt to have any hope of a front
> end alignment isn't my idea of fun....
>
> You should get new spring u-bolts also because the old ones have likely
> stretched too much already to ever stay tight again. You will need
> these for the shims.
>
> Mike
> 86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
> 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
> Canadian Off Road Trips Photos: Non members can still view!
> Jan/06 http://www.imagestation.com/album/pi...?id=2115147590
> (More Off Road album links at bottom of the view page)
>
>
> The Merg wrote:
> >
> > Ok...some photos are up, my '93 Wrangler which will be receiving a
> > shackle lift in a few days when the rear shackles come in and the new
> > '92 Cherokee toy. There are more pictures coming whenever photobucket
> > stops being stupid and lets me upload them.
> >
> > http://s143.photobucket.com/albums/r139/gmergner/
> >
> > The Merg wrote:
> > > I know, I know. I didn't want to leave it in gear, just couldn't get
> > > it out of gear. Next time I'll try harder, I swear.
> > >
> > >
> > > billy ray wrote:
> > > > Why you shouldn't drive Part Time 4WD on the roadway
> > > >
> > > >
http://s112.photobucket.com/albums/n...%20Time%204WD/
> > > >
> > > > "The Merg" <greg.mergner@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:1166980315.425760.49070@n51g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> > > > >I drove it around a little after getting it home, tranny seemed to
have
> > > > > survived. So would a good idea have been to drive it in 4wd for a
bit
> > > > > before throwing it up on the tow dolly and then trying to put it
in
> > > > > neutral?
> > > > >
> > > > > Of course I'm sure we'd all agree that off-roading is purely for
TC
> > > > > maintenance.
> > > > >
> > > > > i have a Canon camera that worked fine before, but I installed a
new
> > > > > printer recently which apparently deleted necessary programs. I
just
> > > > > have to find the install cds again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Earle Horton wrote:
> > > > >> The transfer case is capable of oiling itself when towed in
neutral, but
> > > > >> neither the auto nor the standard transmission will pump oil when
driven
> > > > >> by
> > > > >> the TC and the engine not running. This is why you are
instructed to tow
> > > > >> with the transmission in park (auto) or in gear (standard) and
the TC in
> > > > >> neutral. If you towed it far enough this way you are going to
have
> > > > >> problems
> > > > >> from running the transmission unlubricated. The other thing you
could
> > > > >> have
> > > > >> done was to remove the rear drive shaft.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The most likely cause of the TC not going into neutral is the
shift
> > > > >> mechanism being stiff from disuse. That is the main reason we
take our
> > > > >> rigs
> > > > >> off road, to keep the TC shift mechanism in working order. ;^)
You could
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> course have a bad TC, but that is unlikely. Most people who own
these
> > > > >> vehicles seldom if ever put them in 4wd.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I have good results with Kodak EasyShare, www.kodak.com.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Earle
> > > > >