Earle Horton

It looks as if you would also need a different pinion yoke for the front
differential, if you used the Six States or NAPA double carrion (heh, heh)
type drive shaft. I can't really tell from the picture, but it looks as if
the universal joint cups are bigger on that shaft. When you swap the yokes,
make absolutely sure too that the internal spline depth is the same, or made
up with washers, or else you are going to over or under torque the pinion
nut. Getting the front pinion nut torqued right, is worth a whole thread in
itself.

Your original post stated only that the boot was bad. If you can find a
boot for the GKN joint, and the internals are still good, then you stand to
save some money by using it. It is interesting that NAPA sells a two cross
joint shaft for this application. Just because they sell it, it has to make
you wonder, whether Jeep overdesigned the original shaft, and whether a two
cross joint shaft is in fact good enough. It is going to be less of a
headache to install the NAPA "Direct Replacement" shaft, but as Mike pointed
out it may be a problem down the road, especially if you actually use the
four wheel drive much.

Earle

"Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144516206.476954.5130@e56g2000cwe.googlegrou ps.com...
> No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
> As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
> which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
> Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
> some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
> piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
> this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
> info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
> people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
> if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
> manuel.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave
>

Earle Horton

It looks as if you would also need a different pinion yoke for the front
differential, if you used the Six States or NAPA double carrion (heh, heh)
type drive shaft. I can't really tell from the picture, but it looks as if
the universal joint cups are bigger on that shaft. When you swap the yokes,
make absolutely sure too that the internal spline depth is the same, or made
up with washers, or else you are going to over or under torque the pinion
nut. Getting the front pinion nut torqued right, is worth a whole thread in
itself.

Your original post stated only that the boot was bad. If you can find a
boot for the GKN joint, and the internals are still good, then you stand to
save some money by using it. It is interesting that NAPA sells a two cross
joint shaft for this application. Just because they sell it, it has to make
you wonder, whether Jeep overdesigned the original shaft, and whether a two
cross joint shaft is in fact good enough. It is going to be less of a
headache to install the NAPA "Direct Replacement" shaft, but as Mike pointed
out it may be a problem down the road, especially if you actually use the
four wheel drive much.

Earle

"Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1144516206.476954.5130@e56g2000cwe.googlegrou ps.com...
> No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
> As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
> which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
> Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
> some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
> piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
> this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
> info would be greatly appreciated.
>
> p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
> people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
> if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
> manuel.
>
> Sincerely
>
> Dave
>

Earle Horton

If you are still listening then yoke seal diameters is another potential
problem area.

Earle

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44385e4a$0$8488$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> It looks as if you would also need a different pinion yoke for the front
> differential, if you used the Six States or NAPA double carrion (heh, heh)
> type drive shaft. I can't really tell from the picture, but it looks as
if
> the universal joint cups are bigger on that shaft. When you swap the
yokes,
> make absolutely sure too that the internal spline depth is the same, or
made
> up with washers, or else you are going to over or under torque the pinion
> nut. Getting the front pinion nut torqued right, is worth a whole thread
in
> itself.
>
> Your original post stated only that the boot was bad. If you can find a
> boot for the GKN joint, and the internals are still good, then you stand
to
> save some money by using it. It is interesting that NAPA sells a two
cross
> joint shaft for this application. Just because they sell it, it has to
make
> you wonder, whether Jeep overdesigned the original shaft, and whether a
two
> cross joint shaft is in fact good enough. It is going to be less of a
> headache to install the NAPA "Direct Replacement" shaft, but as Mike
pointed
> out it may be a problem down the road, especially if you actually use the
> four wheel drive much.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144516206.476954.5130@e56g2000cwe.googlegrou ps.com...
> > No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
> > As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
> > which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
> > Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
> > some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
> > piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
> > this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
> > info would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
> > people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
> > if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
> > manuel.
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

If you are still listening then yoke seal diameters is another potential
problem area.

Earle

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44385e4a$0$8488$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> It looks as if you would also need a different pinion yoke for the front
> differential, if you used the Six States or NAPA double carrion (heh, heh)
> type drive shaft. I can't really tell from the picture, but it looks as
if
> the universal joint cups are bigger on that shaft. When you swap the
yokes,
> make absolutely sure too that the internal spline depth is the same, or
made
> up with washers, or else you are going to over or under torque the pinion
> nut. Getting the front pinion nut torqued right, is worth a whole thread
in
> itself.
>
> Your original post stated only that the boot was bad. If you can find a
> boot for the GKN joint, and the internals are still good, then you stand
to
> save some money by using it. It is interesting that NAPA sells a two
cross
> joint shaft for this application. Just because they sell it, it has to
make
> you wonder, whether Jeep overdesigned the original shaft, and whether a
two
> cross joint shaft is in fact good enough. It is going to be less of a
> headache to install the NAPA "Direct Replacement" shaft, but as Mike
pointed
> out it may be a problem down the road, especially if you actually use the
> four wheel drive much.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144516206.476954.5130@e56g2000cwe.googlegrou ps.com...
> > No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
> > As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
> > which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
> > Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
> > some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
> > piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
> > this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
> > info would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
> > people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
> > if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
> > manuel.
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>

Earle Horton

If you are still listening then yoke seal diameters is another potential
problem area.

Earle

"Earle Horton" <NurseBustersNoSpam@msn.com> wrote in message
news:44385e4a$0$8488$a82e2bb9@reader.athenanews.co m...
> It looks as if you would also need a different pinion yoke for the front
> differential, if you used the Six States or NAPA double carrion (heh, heh)
> type drive shaft. I can't really tell from the picture, but it looks as
if
> the universal joint cups are bigger on that shaft. When you swap the
yokes,
> make absolutely sure too that the internal spline depth is the same, or
made
> up with washers, or else you are going to over or under torque the pinion
> nut. Getting the front pinion nut torqued right, is worth a whole thread
in
> itself.
>
> Your original post stated only that the boot was bad. If you can find a
> boot for the GKN joint, and the internals are still good, then you stand
to
> save some money by using it. It is interesting that NAPA sells a two
cross
> joint shaft for this application. Just because they sell it, it has to
make
> you wonder, whether Jeep overdesigned the original shaft, and whether a
two
> cross joint shaft is in fact good enough. It is going to be less of a
> headache to install the NAPA "Direct Replacement" shaft, but as Mike
pointed
> out it may be a problem down the road, especially if you actually use the
> four wheel drive much.
>
> Earle
>
> "Dave G" <davidgibbons81@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1144516206.476954.5130@e56g2000cwe.googlegrou ps.com...
> > No one still answered my question. The GKN Style Shaft has got to go.
> > As far as I know of I can take the front input yoke from an 231 case
> > which will bolt right into my 207 case. Then just go and get a double
> > Cardan front drive shaft. Here maybe these picture from Madxj will help
> > some of you to understand. Any which way you cut it I do not want that
> > piece of ---- GKN shaft on my jeep. So I'll ask again has anyone done
> > this or know of anyone that has done this? It seems pretty simple. Any
> > info would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > p.s Sorry Earl that you have nothing better to do then to tear apart
> > people for the way they spell. You can't rebuild the GKN joint anyways
> > if its wasted, its wasted you need a new shaft period. Read your haynes
> > manuel.
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > Dave
> >
>
>